2016 NFL Week 16

[Lew]

Lew, I agree with your points concerning Russell Wilson not being offered a D1 scholarship (or playing QB in the NFL) if he was white, but I believe the guy has real talent. He was essentially one play away from winning 2 consecutive Super Bowl rings (thankfully, he lost SB 49 to the lily-white Pats in one if the best football games ever played), something that very few white QB's have ever done in the era of free agency. In my opinion, the attribute that Wilson possesses that separates him from so many black QB's over the past 30 years is his unyielding composure. He's very even keel and rarely gets too high or low. Unfortunely, I see a similar quslities in Prescott and believe he could achieve analogous success.

You're also correct that Wilson and Prescott play on very talented squads, but so did Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, and Big Ben when they had great success as rookies. At the time, we gave them credit nonetheless.

Lew, I think we have to give Wilson and Prescott a lil credit. Both came into the league with little fanfare, lucked onto good teams and have done their job. They also act maturely, show good leadership and to date have not engaged in TNB. Will the Tom Iron rule eventually prevail? Perhaps but for now there is not much to criticize.

On Newton you are 100% correct. Other than running abilities, Cam has always been below average. Last year was an anomaly. This year he even has his top receiver Benjamin healthy and he's playing at historically bad levels. I believe he's both the most obnoxious and overrated in a league full of black narcissistic busts.

I actually like Wilson . He's the one black quarterback whose success doesn't bother me and that's only because of who he is as a person. I can't give Prescott any credit though just because of what's happening to Romo. We're always taking about the dying White hero on this site; Brady,Manning,Brees, etc well Romo belongs on that list. He's one of the greatest quarterbacks of this generation. Millions of white kids grew up looking up to him as a hero.He did so much for that team and that fanbase. His last full healthy season he played at an incredibly high level. Now with his best chance ever to win a super bowl, on the best roster he's ever had, he just gets tossed into the trash in favor of some new shiny black quarterback game manager who wouldn't even be there if not for the color his skin. That doesn't sit right with me and I don't care if I come off as biased.

And Flacco, Ryan, and Ben were unanimously considered game managers back then. They weren't being hyped as MVP candidates and none of them would have even played if there was a healthy future HOF franchise quarterback on the bench.

 

[Don Wassall]

I get it, you're being fair, objective, reasonable, and honest. That's how you've been ever since I joined this site over 5 years ago. And I really appreciated it over the years. I always knew any time you said something positive about a black player or negative about a white player that I could take it to the bank. I looked at this site the same way the DWF look at ESPN. I've just grown tired of one side playing fair and by the rules and the other side cheating all the time. On every site, every channel, and every radio station I have to listen to non-stop propaganda hyping up blacks and tearing down whites. Why can't there be one place where we unabashedly hype up our side and tear them down all the time? Why do we have to be fair and reasonable? I want to come here and listen to people vent and even use slurs. I don't want to come here and read good things about black quarterbacks or bad things about white college basketball players, even if it's true. I get enough of that every other place I go including real life conversations with people.

If you think it hurts us from a strategic point of view I don't think that's right. We're living in a time of extreme confirmation bias. If you're a conservative you go to Breitbart, if you're a liberal you go to Salon. You never see any pro trump articles on Salon and you'll never see any anti-trump articles on Breitbart. Now considering everything that's been going on lately with the rise of Trump and BLM and the Kaepernick protests this would be the perfect time to start taking our own side and throw objectivity out the window. For every fence sitting coward there are at least 10 people filled with rage and anger and they don't know where to direct it at, and they would probably love to join our side. That's why I joined. I didn't lurk or sit on the fence.

I agree with the first part of what you wrote that I put in bold, but not the second part. The only reason I started this site was to "hype up our side."

In my long and unusual journey in alternative politics, I've always been disappointed to find that there's two groups on the "right" -- one is the so-called conservatives, who never say or write anything that may offend the "politically correct." And then there's the second group, which consists of racially aware Whites, who mostly believe that being pro-White is defined by tearing down others, particularly blacks.

The first group (the cuckservatives) is much larger, of course. But the much smaller group never gets anywhere because it's too obsessed with being anti-black rather than being pro-White.

Mimicking (or "aping") the tactics of communists and black supremacists is not something I'm interested in. It's not the White Man's way. Lew, you want "our side" to throw away truth (objectivity) and engage in non-stop lying so that we can thrill Whites who are "filled with anger and rage." If you think that's a workable strategy, go to it. There are plenty of sites where one can go and rip on blacks to their heart's content, using all the racial slurs and cuss words they can think of. There seems to be no shortage of anonymous keyboard warriors on those sites.

The real problem Whites face in this country is that the "conservatives" will never represent them, and are in fact embarrassed by them and want to replace them, while the "raging black haters" will never leave the comfort of their keyboards and engage in real-life activism, because their approach is a non-starter in this day and age and deep down they know it, and that impotence only adds to their anger. So while you can express your opinions all you want here, as long as they don't violate the posting guidelines, and I've always respected you as a poster, don't expect me to change Caste Football to fit the ones I don't agree with.

 

[GiovaniMarcon]

Now that Romo "sucks," have the DWFs stopped trying to say he's Mexican and put him back on the White pile?

 

[Lew]

I agree with the first part of what you wrote that I put in bold, but not the second part. The only reason I started this site was to "hype up our side."

In my long and unusual journey in alternative politics, I've always been disappointed to find that there's two groups on the "right" -- one is the so-called conservatives, who never say or write anything that may offend the "politically correct." And then there's the second group, which consists of racially aware Whites, who mostly believe that being pro-White is defined by tearing down others, particularly blacks.

The first group (the cuckservatives) is much larger, of course. But the much smaller group never gets anywhere because it's too obsessed with being anti-black rather than being pro-White.

Mimicking (or "aping") the tactics of communists and black supremacists is not something I'm interested in. It's not the White Man's way. Lew, you want "our side" to throw away truth (objectivity) and engage in non-stop lying so that we can thrill Whites who are "filled with anger and rage." If you think that's a workable strategy, go to it. There are plenty of sites where one can go and rip on blacks to their heart's content, using all the racial slurs and cuss words they can think of. There seems to be no shortage of anonymous keyboard warriors on those sites.

The real problem Whites face in this country is that the "conservatives" will never represent them, and are in fact embarrassed by them and want to replace them, while the "raging black haters" will never leave the comfort of their keyboards and engage in real-life activism, because their approach is a non-starter in this day and age and deep down they know it, and that impotence only adds to their anger. So while you can express your opinions all you want here, as long as they don't violate the posting guidelines, and I've always respected you as a poster, don't expect me to change Caste Football to fit the ones I don't agree with.

You're 100% right, it's not the way of the white man but it's been proven to work. Just look at the past year .I wouldn't call it lying non-stop. That would be making up things out of thin air, this is just pushing your narrative 100% of the time and only using the facts that fit that narrative. Sure it's dishonest but that's what our opponents do. Just last week I'm at the gym and ESPN is on and they're comparing some black quarterback with some good white quarterback. They have a side by side comparison up on the screen showing their very similar stats in a few select categories. But they don't show the stats that are actually important like passing touchdowns and passing yards because it would make the white quarterback look so much better. And it worked because there were like 5 DWFs right next to me nodding their head in agreement.

It's your site, you do what you want with it. It's just a suggestion. I'm very appreciative of all the hard work you do and the fact that this site even exists.

 

[Johnny_U]

Rasta Rex and bro are out at Buffalo yet Whaley remains. Hmmmm

 

[Flint]

One of the good things about Zach Zenner being ignored in the 2nd half last game is that there will be an effort to feed him at the start of the next game. While I think unless he really tears it up that he will go back down the depth chart eventually, I believe at this point, last game, season on the line, the Lions are going to go with the only runner that has had any success for them.

Judging by the fan and sports commentators remarks about the Dallas game, there is agreement that not continuing to give Zenner carries at the start of the 2nd half was a mistake. I'm sure he will be on a short leash, as is always the case for white ball carriers, but am also encouraged by the Packers weakness against the run on defense.

If the Lions do manage to defeat the Packers, and that is a longshot, the consolation if Zenner is featured, is that we will have a playoff team with a white running back for the first time since probably John Riggins.

 

[Flint]

My thoughts on Dak Prescott is that in the only time I really watched him, against Detroit last Monday, he was very accurate. He had a lot of time to throw but he was really hitting the spots. He has obviously been in a grove all season. This situation reminds me of the way I felt about Krapernick. In his best season when he led the 49ers to the Super Bowl I could not believe how accurate he was. He also was a good runner, something I have not seen out of Prescott. I thought at the time that Kaepernick was going to be a great Qb and was disappointed as it verified all the hype about a black QB that could both pass and throw as good or better then white QB's. Look at what has happened since. Kaepernick has completely gone to hell and only gets to play because of his black skin privilege. He will surely be dumped at the first chance this offseason. So in regards to Prescott I would be patient.

 

[Lew]

Rasta Rex and bro are out at Buffalo yet Whaley remains. Hmmmm

Not only does he remain but I never even hear his name mentioned anywhere but this site. He's completely immune from any criticism.

 

[Johnny_U]

Not only does he remain but I never even hear his name mentioned anywhere but this site. He's completely immune from any criticism.

To be fair a few Bills fans on FF have been calling for Whaleys head

 

[Don Wassall]

You're 100% right, it's not the way of the white man but it's been proven to work. Just look at the past year .I wouldn't call it lying non-stop. That would be making up things out of thin air, this is just pushing your narrative 100% of the time and only using the facts that fit that narrative. Sure it's dishonest but that's what our opponents do. Just last week I'm at the gym and ESPN is on and they're comparing some black quarterback with some good white quarterback. They have a side by side comparison up on the screen showing their very similar stats in a few select categories. But they don't show the stats that are actually important like passing touchdowns and passing yards because it would make the white quarterback look so much better. And it worked because there were like 5 DWFs right next to me nodding their head in agreement.

It's your site, you do what you want with it. It's just a suggestion. I'm very appreciative of all the hard work you do and the fact that this site even exists.

So what would be the more effective way to counter what you and the five nodding DWFs had just heard on ESPN?

1. Unleash an angry anti-black rant, being sure to say the n-word at least once per sentence, and recommending they go to chimpout.com to learn more; or

2. Say something like, "Man, ESPN's at it again, always pushing their liberal agenda. Why didn't they show how Quarterback A is better than Quarterback B in many different categories rather than selectively presenting only certain data? You'd be surprised how often this stuff goes on. Here's a business card for Caste Football, a site I like that gives a much different perspective on sports. Check it out."

The five nodding DWFs likely voted for Trump. They likely have good basic instincts and values. Donald Trump never bashed blacks, and as far as I know never mentioned Whites as a group even once. Yet he was able to win against all odds because he knows how to reach Middle America (and soon we'll find out how sincere he is).

The hard-core white racist vote is tiny in America. This article on an alt-right site is spot on: http://www.amerika.org/politics/we-shall-never-overcome/ If Trump had openly appealed to it he would have suffered the worst electoral defeat in U.S. history. Reaching White Americans takes a lot of subtlety and savvy, and frankly many are unreachable. You have to show them that you're right on the important issues that matter to them in their daily lives, and then and only then will they open up to what they've been rigorously indoctrinated to view as taboo, namely "politically incorrect" racial views.

Meantime the commies keep discrediting themselves. It's a major reason why ESPN's ratings keep falling. Americans are tuning out the "mainstream" media, which is why they've concocted the "fake news" bs out of whole cloth as their latest attempt to discredit the alternative media and regain their former monopoly position.

 

[white lightning]

One of the good things about Zach Zenner being ignored in the 2nd half last game is that there will be an effort to feed him at the start of the next game. While I think unless he really tears it up that he will go back down the depth chart eventually, I believe at this point, last game, season on the line, the Lions are going to go with the only runner that has had any success for them.

Judging by the fan and sports commentators remarks about the Dallas game, there is agreement that not continuing to give Zenner carries at the start of the 2nd half was a mistake. I'm sure he will be on a short leash, as is always the case for white ball carriers, but am also encouraged by the Packers weakness against the run on defense.

If the Lions do manage to defeat the Packers, and that is a longshot, the consolation if Zenner is featured, is that we will have a playoff team with a white running back for the first time since probably John Riggins.

This game has me torn. I like the Packers because of Aaron Rogers, Jordy Nelson, and others but to see the Lions
make the playoffs with a potential star white running back makes me more excited. Stafford is fun to watch. He is as
competetive as they come. This game should be the game of the week! It's win/win for us but I'm rooting for the Lions.
Zach Zenner needs to showcase his skills to all 32 nfl teams and the fans. Hope he helps the Lions make the playoffs and
does it with a game of at least 100 yards and a few more touchdowns. Let's go ZZ Tops!

 

[Riggins44]

One of the good things about Zach Zenner being ignored in the 2nd half last game is that there will be an effort to feed him at the start of the next game. While I think unless he really tears it up that he will go back down the depth chart eventually, I believe at this point, last game, season on the line, the Lions are going to go with the only runner that has had any success for them.

Judging by the fan and sports commentators remarks about the Dallas game, there is agreement that not continuing to give Zenner carries at the start of the 2nd half was a mistake. I'm sure he will be on a short leash, as is always the case for white ball carriers, but am also encouraged by the Packers weakness against the run on defense.

If the Lions do manage to defeat the Packers, and that is a longshot, the consolation if Zenner is featured, is that we will have a playoff team with a white running back for the first time since probably John Riggins.

The ideal CF outcome in that game is that Zenner has an even better performance than he did on Monday Night but the Pack wins and goes to the playoffs.

 

[Lew]

So what would be the more effective way to counter what you and the five nodding DWFs had just heard on ESPN?

1. Unleash an angry anti-black rant, being sure to say the n-word at least once per sentence, and recommending they go to chimpout.com to learn more; or

2. Say something like, "Man, ESPN's at it again, always pushing their liberal agenda. Why didn't they show how Quarterback A is better than Quarterback B in many different categories rather than selectively presenting only certain data? You'd be surprised how often this stuff goes on. Here's a business card for Caste Football, a site I like that gives a much different perspective on sports. Check it out."

The five nodding DWFs likely voted for Trump. They likely have good basic instincts and values. Donald Trump never bashed blacks, and as far as I know never mentioned Whites as a group even once. Yet he was able to win against all odds because he knows how to reach Middle America (and soon we'll find out how sincere he is).

The hard-core white racist vote is tiny in America. This article on an alt-right site is spot on: http://www.amerika.org/politics/we-shall-never-overcome/ If Trump had openly appealed to it he would have suffered the worst electoral defeat in U.S. history. Reaching White Americans takes a lot of subtlety and savvy, and frankly many are unreachable. You have to show them that you're right on the important issues that matter to them in their daily lives, and then and only then will they open up to what they've been rigorously indoctrinated to view as taboo, namely "politically incorrect" racial views.

Meantime the commies keep discrediting themselves. It's a major reason why ESPN's ratings keep falling. Americans are tuning out the "mainstream" media, which is why they've concocted the "fake news" bs out of whole cloth as their latest attempt to discredit the alternative media and regain their former monopoly position.

Obviously number 2 would be better but I think you're severely underestimating the level of anti-black sentiment in this country. I don't know what parts of the country you've lived in but it's damn near impossible for someone to live in close proximity to blacks and not come away hating them. I've spoken to liberals who feel that way. You don't have to be a hardcore racist to dislike blacks, you just have to be a normal person who interacts with them regularly.

I don't know what to take away from Trump's general election victory. It was an absolute miracle that I don't think could be attributed to any strategy on his part.If anyone deserves credit it's his online supporters along with people like Thrashen . His primary victory is a different story though. He did bash Mexicans very harshly and that kind of got the ball rolling on his whole campaign did it not ? He also ran on a platform that went against almost everything the republican party stands for. He said things that are blasphemous to republicans like blaming George Bush for 9/11 and saying he was always against the Iraq war. He couldn't correctly name a single verse from the bible to save his life but he had evangelicals fawning over him. The take away here is that he was able to get away with all this stuff and win the primary because he showed strength and power. And that's what most people respond . They don't care about the facts and details as much. Let's say the 2016 GOP primary was a matchup between Ron Paul and Donald Trump, who do you think would win ?

 

[Lew]

This game has me torn. I like the Packers because of Aaron Rogers, Jordy Nelson, and others but to see the Lions
make the playoffs with a potential star white running back makes me more excited. Stafford is fun to watch. He is as
competetive as they come. This game should be the game of the week! It's win/win for us but I'm rooting for the Lions.
Zach Zenner needs to showcase his skills to all 32 nfl teams and the fans. Hope he helps the Lions make the playoffs and
does it with a game of at least 100 yards and a few more touchdowns. Let's go ZZ Tops!

The ideal CF outcome in that game is that Zenner has an even better performance than he did on Monday Night but the Pack wins and goes to the playoffs.

Actually if the game ends in a tie then both teams make the playoffs with Washington missing out.

 

[Lew]

To be fair a few Bills fans on FF have been calling for Whaleys head

that's a pleasant surprise. FF is one of the most cucked sports forums I've ever read.

 

[Heretic]

The hard-core white racist vote is tiny in America. This article on an alt-right site is spot on: http://www.amerika.org/politics/we-shall-never-overcome/ If Trump had openly appealed to it he would have suffered the worst electoral defeat in U.S. history. Reaching White Americans takes a lot of subtlety and savvy, and frankly many are unreachable. You have to show them that you're right on the important issues that matter to them in their daily lives, and then and only then will they open up to what they've been rigorously indoctrinated to view as taboo, namely "politically incorrect" racial views.

To your point, here's a recent comment from someone on Colin Flaherty's YT channel:
Colin, I'm really depressed. My sister is over at the house, and she told me out of the blue that I hate black people, which is a lie. I don't like the criminal blacks. I just tried to hand her "Don't Make The Black Kids Angry". I said Merry Christmas. She refused it and said, "I don't want to know what's going on and I don't want to have hate in my heart.". I told her that she's asleep and eventually will become a victim. Some people are just brainwashed.

Someone responded to him:
so why be depressed?

He then said:
Well, she's my sister. I'd like for her to be intelligent. I suppose that's too much to ask from Santa Clause. Oh, and she's wearing an Obama T-shirt. Ok, she's a lost cause.

Meantime the commies keep discrediting themselves. It's a major reason why ESPN's ratings keep falling. Americans are tuning out the "mainstream" media, which is why they've concocted the "fake news" bs out of whole cloth as their latest attempt to discredit the alternative media and regain their former monopoly position.

Another YT channel I like is "Red Pill Philosophy". A few weeks ago, when the bogus "Fake News" propaganda started to emanate from the mouths of the satanic media elite gatekeepers, he mentioned on one of his broadcasts that "Fake News" is the new "Conspiracy Theory". I thought that was a perfect way to put it...so very true.

 

[backrow]

Great week, all in all. Real shame about Zenner not getting any carries, 100+ game was well within his reach. I'll take 2 TDs though.

Some good discussion going on, I wholeheartedly agree with Don's well written posts. Not much to add.

 

[wile]

I love the work Don does here at CF but until now I never had any hope he could overcome his conservative training. Take answer #2, much easier to discredit than to argue with an outfit like the well funded left.

If Zenner has a good day I don't care if the Lions win and I am Pack fan

 

[northwinds]

There is an article at NFL.com questioning why the Lions did not use Zenner more in the second half with lots of good 'caste' discussion and comments. Feel free to join in.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-did-lions-abandon-zach-zenner-in-second-half

 

[La France Blanche]

Don and Lew both made some good points - Don about the need to appeal to mainstream White people and Lew about how we should focus on fighting to win instead of "fighting fair."

I'll give credit where credit is due to black athletes if asked by an outsider (out of the Alt-Right), but I try to talk about them as little as possible and spend as much time as possible talking about Whites. It does get difficult when there are so few of them - I think Oakland is down to 4 Whites on its 53-man roster, not counting the injured Derek Carr.

 

[Deceptive Speed]

I don't post hear very much but I totally agree with Don. Blacks do deserve credit from time to time. If we just say they all suck and use slurs at them all day on this site onlookers will just think were ignorant and delusional. Not saying that we should just hype them up, hyping whites is the main point here. Like if you got an Adrian Peterson just admit he's good and carry on. Personally, I will only be on this site rooting for white players, I would prefer to not talk about black players unless needed.