2015 Women's World Cup

[Matra2]

Hope I don't lose my "man card" for starting this.

After listening to a BBC radio programme about Roland Garros I left it on for a segment on the women's World Cup which is being played in Canada. What got my attention was that after reviewing the teams they started playing samba music to introduce Marta "the female Pele" (I wonder if she's any better than the "Pakistani Pele" Adbul Ghafoor Majna or the "American Pele" Freddy Adu both of whom have been mentioned on these boards before). Anyway, I remember all the hype about Marta before the last WC in which she was a big disappointment. She was then a flop in the 2012 Olympics yet she was still chosen ahead of Canadian Christine Sinclair in FIFA's year end candidates list for player of the year. Observers speculated that it was Marta's legacy and reputation that got her selected. So just like with Brazil (slaughtered 1-7 by mostly white Germany last year) and its "beautiful football" reputation and Pele known as the greatest player ever (yeah right) there is already a well established narrative in the relatively young sport of women's football about Brazilian greatness.:icon_rolleyes:

But not content with a "female Pele" there's also a "female Zidane" - Louisa Necib of France. Like Zidane she was born in Marseille to Algerian parents and according to the pre-match documentary I just watched could be the star of the tournament. We'll see. (Incidentally 4 of the French starting 11 against England appear to be non-whites. That's probably a lower percentage than the current men's team).

Lastly, there is the American team with their obnoxious, law-breaking and mudsharking goalie Hope Solo - subject of this previous CF thread: http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...-Hope-Solo-amp-Brother-Bloodied-and-Beaten-by

The Americans are one of the favourites along with mostly white Germany (I saw one mulatto on the team). France, the defending champions Japan, and Canada are also considered contenders for the title.

Modesty and sportsmanship be damned

 

[Freethinker]

I would have no problem rooting for the USA, as they are very White, but I cannot stand Hope Solo. She drunkenly beat on her nephew and half-sister and then went on national TV and lied making herself out the be the victim of "domestic violence". What scum. Hope and her negro criminal husband might be an even more despicable "famous couple" than Kim and Kanye.

I saw Norway was very White and easy on the eyes. I'd imagine Germany and Sweden the same. I'll probably root for one of those teams the win it all.

 

[Thrashen]

I would have no problem rooting for the USA, as they are very White, but I cannot stand Hope Solo. She drunkenly beat on her nephew and half-sister and then went on national TV and lied making herself out the be the victim of "domestic violence". What scum. Hope and her negro criminal husband might be an even more despicable "famous couple" than Kim and Kanye.

I saw Norway was very White and easy on the eyes. I'd imagine Germany and Sweden the same. I'll probably root for one of those teams the win it all.

Unfortunately, some of the women on the European squads are open dikes. For instance, Nilla Fischer of Sweden, who is legally married to a woman...

As for Solo...you omitted the infamous 2012 tale in which Solo was beaten by her Negro fiance (now husband), the rapist, drug-addicted, drunk-driving hearthrob, Jerramy Stevens. The best part? She married him the very next day! Here is his rap sheet...

[h=3]Rape accusation[/h] On July 27, 2000, Stevens was arrested for the sexual assault of a 19-year-old female University of Washington student. In the early morning hours of June 4, 2000, after a fraternity party, a UW student who witnessed them having sex called 911 to report it as a possible rape, noting that the woman appeared to be drugged; the caller described her as "half passed out" and with "eyes glazed."[SUP][3][/SUP] Stevens's semen was found in the victim, who was penetrated vaginally and anally, and numerous witnesses testified that she acted as if drugged at the party. Police suspected a date rape drug was given to the woman at the party, but blood samples were taken too late for testing. The Seattle Police Department and King County prosecutors clashed over conditions on interviewing Stevens after Stevens's lawyer Mike Hunsinger negotiated a deal with prosecutors on the following conditions for the interview: defense lawyers would be able to see victim and witness statements, the interview was to be set in Hunsinger's office, and only the prosecutor, not lead detective, would be allowed to ask questions. Police and prosecutors never interviewed Stevens. Ultimately, King County prosecutor Norm Maleng declined to file rape charges against Stevens due to "confusing and conflicting statements."[SUP][3][/SUP]
In 2003, the accuser filed a civil suit against Stevens, the University of Washington, and the Sigma Chi fraternity at Washington. In 2004, the parties settled, with Sigma Chi and Stevens paying $300,000 in exchange for a number of concessions, including the dismissal of the university from the lawsuit. The investigation and aftermath of this incident and the subsequent decision to not charge Stevens were first reported by The Seattle Times in a special January 2008 series investigating some players in the Washington 2001 Rose Bowl championship team.[SUP][3][/SUP]


Stevens never was suspended from the Washington football team despite his arrest. In January 2008, Seattle Times reporters Ken Armstrong and Nick Perry revisited the Stevens case for Victory and Ruins, a four-part series exploring cases in which members of the Washington team that won the 2001 Rose Bowl had "an unsettling level of criminal conduct that was often excused or overlooked."[SUP][3][/SUP] Armstrong and Perry won the 2009 Polk Award for Sports Reporting for the Victory and Ruins series.[SUP][37][/SUP]

[h=3]Traffic violations[/h]

• On May 4, 2001, Stevens was cited for reckless driving and hit and run after crashing his pickup truck into a retirement home. The crash knocked a dresser onto a bed where a 92-year-old woman was sleeping.[SUP][38][/SUP] Stevens pleaded guilty to hit-and-run and causing property damage and was given a suspended 90-day jail sentence, 240 hours of community service, and probation.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][39][/SUP]

• On April 3, 2003, Stevens was stopped by Medina, Washington police and was charged with reckless driving and driving while intoxicated. He pleaded guilty to reckless driving. For violating probation from the May 2001 incident, Stevens served five days in jail effective June 12, 2003 and was ordered to do 40 hours of community service.[SUP][39][/SUP] For the reckless driving charge, Stevens was sentenced to two days in jail, 25 hours of community service, and a $1,000 fine on June 23.[SUP][40][/SUP] The sentencing judge compared Stevens to Reggie Rogers, another star University of Washington football player who was convicted of DUI.[SUP][40][/SUP]

• On March 13, 2007, Stevens was arrested in Scottsdale, Arizona for suspicion of DUI after his blood alcohol content was measured at 0.204, over twice the legal limit of .08 and considered "extreme DUI" in Arizona. On September 7, a jury found Stevens guilty.[SUP][41][/SUP] On October 2, Stevens was sentenced to 12 days in jail and fined $3,160 with an additional 18 days suspended, as Stevens was attending an NFL rehabilitation program at the time.[SUP][42][/SUP]

• On January 19, 2015, Stevens was arrested in Manhattan Beach, California for suspicion of DUI.[SUP][43][/SUP] As a result of this incident, Steven's wife Hope Solo was suspended for thirty days from the U.S. Soccer team for showing poor judgement in entering the car and arguing with the police.[SUP][44][/SUP]

[h=3]Other issues[/h]

• On March 16, 2007, The Seattle Times reported that multiple complaints were raised against Stevens by other residents in his condominium complex. The complaints included vomit on their doors, used condoms on the back porch, loud parties at all hours of the night, and various noise complaints.[SUP][45][/SUP]

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• On October 23, 2010, Stevens was arrested and charged in Tampa with possession of marijuana. Stevens had been pulled over for playing loud music, when the officer smelled marijuana, and discovered 38 grams of it in his car.[SUP][30][/SUP] Stevens was sentenced to probation until October 2013 for the incident but returned to Hillsborough County, Florida jail on November 28, 2012 for violating probation.[SUP][46][/SUP]

• On March 3, 2011, Stevens was arrested and charged with felony battery for punching two bouncers in a Tampa, Florida bar. According to his attorney, who denied the charges, after Stevens was released from jail, he was treated for "multiple broken ribs and extensive bruising to his body and face."[SUP][47][/SUP]

• On November 12, 2012, Stevens was arrested on investigation of assault following an altercation that left his fiancée, soccer star Hope Solo, injured, but a Kirkland, Washington judge dropped the case the following day for lack of evidence.[SUP][48][/SUP] The pair were wed November 13, 2012, the day after the arrest.[SUP][35][/SUP]

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[Matra2]

Modesty and sportsmanship be damned

It's hard to read what it says on her shirt so my comment about modesty and sportsmanship might not have made much sense. It says "GREATNESS HAS BEEN FOUND". It rubbed a lot of people the wrong way especially given the occasion - the Olympics.

 

[Porthos]

Not really interested. I just can't bring myself to sit down and watch a girl game for 90 minutes. It's one of these "modern football" things.

 

[Matra2]

I watched a fair bit of the France v England match. It was like a teenage boys match in terms of quality and entertainment value. That's not intended to be an insult as I occasionally watch youth sports. Also I'm not a PC creationist who believes 'gender' is a mere social construct so I don't expect them to play like men. I could actually see the women's game being more entertaining to a soccer novice as the poor defending is likely to lead to more goal mouth action. However if you are more familiar with the finer points of the men's game the chaotic ball chasing combined with lack of movement off the ball may be even more frustrating than the lack of power and technical ability.

France won the match 1-0. I got a laugh out of the BBC2 half time analysis. I didn't catch the name of the one man on the panel but his critique of England focussed on two things: 1) too many aimless and predictable long balls; and 2) lack of technical ability and confidence on the ball making them afraid to hold onto it (hence constant long balls upfield when there is no teammate in the immediate vicinity). Now, let me think for a moment, where have I heard these criticisms before? Oh right, I got it! Every time England (or any British Isles team, including Rep of Ireland) men's team has played in the last two decades.:bigsmile:

BTW there was caste match on Sunday between Germany and Ivory Coast. The score was 10-0 to Germany. (It was watched by more people in Germany than the F1 GP).

http://www.dwdl.de/zahlenzentrale/51258/wmauftakt_fussballfrauen_ueberfluegeln_formel_1/

 

[frederic38]

the most beautiful french player is laure boulleau :thumb:
that was my analysis :thumb:

 

[ThePhilosopher]

the most beautiful french player is laure boulleau :thumb:
that was my analysis :thumb:

Great Analysis:icon_mrgreen:arty:

Sorry Matra,Frederic has beaten you this time!:icon_tongue:

 

[ThePhilosopher]

Wow look who's back!!! :gossip:

 

[Giles Daldanus]

Great Analysis:icon_mrgreen:arty:

Sorry Matra,Frederic has beaten you this time!:icon_tongue:

I have to admit that I am neither an expert when it comes to the technical aspects of the sport nor a football purist, but so far I have found the games to be quite entertaining and the teams are indeed highly motivated! I could never fault the women for their passion and work rate.

Two observations:

a) sides that are weaker on paper are less likely to spring a surprise in the case of matches involving women national teams
b) the female teams are almost always much more representative of the racial and ethnic make-up of the country than male ones. For example, the Colombian female footballers are 90% whites and mestizos and the Swedish ladies seem to be white without exception.

@Frederic, excellent choice! I also find Gaëtane Thiney, Corinne Franco (she is not part of the French roster for some reason) and Alex Morgan to be very beautiful as well.

I apologize for the formatting – I have been having this issue for quite a while (it seems to be exclusively confined to this site, at least in my case). Is castefootball still recovering from the effects of the hacker attack?

 

[Matra2]

On Friday the TV channel covering the event ran a promo piece on how many women were officiating the tournament. I wasn't really paying attention but I think they said all the refs and other officials were women with the usual bragging about "how far we've come" etc. And then right on cue at the end of the match (Australia v Nigeria) the referee only played one minute of time added even though the fourth official said there were four extra minutes. It was comical as the referee's face was on our screens when she realised she messed up. It got even funnier when the TV pundits tried to downplay it, as if to say, oh well, these things happen all the time. Actually, they do not.

 

[foreverfree]

Not really interested. I just can't bring myself to sit down and watch a girl game for 90 minutes. It's one of these "modern football" things.

I'm not interested either. The "Feminist Cup" is what I've called the WWC since 1999 (although "Dyke Cup" would be just as appropriate).

John

 

[white is right]

I watched a fair bit of the France v England match. It was like a teenage boys match in terms of quality and entertainment value. That's not intended to be an insult as I occasionally watch youth sports. Also I'm not a PC creationist who believes 'gender' is a mere social construct so I don't expect them to play like men. I could actually see the women's game being more entertaining to a soccer novice as the poor defending is likely to lead to more goal mouth action. However if you are more familiar with the finer points of the men's game the chaotic ball chasing combined with lack of movement off the ball may be even more frustrating than the lack of power and technical ability.

France won the match 1-0. I got a laugh out of the BBC2 half time analysis. I didn't catch the name of the one man on the panel but his critique of England focussed on two things: 1) too many aimless and predictable long balls; and 2) lack of technical ability and confidence on the ball making them afraid to hold onto it (hence constant long balls upfield when there is no teammate in the immediate vicinity). Now, let me think for a moment, where have I heard these criticisms before? Oh right, I got it! Every time England (or any British Isles team, including Rep of Ireland) men's team has played in the last two decades.:bigsmile:

BTW there was caste match on Sunday between Germany and Ivory Coast. The score was 10-0 to Germany. (It was watched by more people in Germany than the F1 GP).

http://www.dwdl.de/zahlenzentrale/51258/wmauftakt_fussballfrauen_ueberfluegeln_formel_1/

This is spot on. It's similar to basketball. The game is the equivalent to a high school all star tournament. Also the additional 16 teams is a joke as some of the squads are god awful ie the Ivory Coast. Losing ten zip is the equivalent of losing twenty five to nothing in baseball.. Also seeing open and out lesbos is sickening but par for our lost society. Well I guess we will have the first transgender superstar in a few years....

 

[Matra2]

White England concede an own goal against all coloured (doh!) Japan in the last minute so Japan goes to the final to play the virtually all white USA team.

I haven't seen much of this tournament but I see the Brazilian "female Pele" Marta is long gone. She didn't make any impact on this tournament just like the last WC and Olympics.

As a comical aftermath to the Canadian defeat to England in the QFs the Canadian team refused to answer media questions that were not "positive". (How do you ask positive questions to a losing team?) I guess tough questions to a losing female team is now a "microaggression".

 

[Phall]

I watched a fair bit of the France v England match. It was like a teenage boys match in terms of quality and entertainment value. That's not intended to be an insult as I occasionally watch youth sports. Also I'm not a PC creationist who believes 'gender' is a mere social construct so I don't expect them to play like men. I could actually see the women's game being more entertaining to a soccer novice as the poor defending is likely to lead to more goal mouth action. However if you are more familiar with the finer points of the men's game the chaotic ball chasing combined with lack of movement off the ball may be even more frustrating than the lack of power and technical ability.

Just wanted to reiterate that I too appreciated your basic analysis here that very neatly described the differences between the men's and women's games. I can repeat this to other casual fans and express what I see but don't know how to quite put into words.

I made a little quarter-state ODP team when I was 17 - we scrimmaged against the all-state girls team one afternoon that was a year older than us and had been playing together all year. They were very quick and fit: still of course, no self-respecting varsity athletes could play them seriously. But they put up a good fight and we only "won" the short scrimmage by scoring a couple goals. I think part of the matchup was a lesson from our coaches about ego.

But yeah, not many of these "world-class" girls could make a pub soccer team in a serious soccer county. Congratulations to the ones that could?

 

[frederic38]

Just wanted to reiterate that I too appreciated your basic analysis here that very neatly described the differences between the men's and women's games. I can repeat this to other casual fans and express what I see but don't know how to quite put into words.

I made a little quarter-state ODP team when I was 17 - we scrimmaged against the all-state girls team one afternoon that was a year older than us and had been playing together all year. They were very quick and fit: still of course, no self-respecting varsity athletes could play them seriously. But they put up a good fight and we only "won" the short scrimmage by scoring a couple goals. I think part of the matchup was a lesson from our coaches about ego.

But yeah, not many of these "world-class" girls could make a pub soccer team in a serious soccer county. Congratulations to the ones that could?

an example of a friendly match between top feminine players and amateur men:

http://www.lyonfemininefoot.com/pag...-matchs/saison-2010-2011/ma-face-3-baies.html

lyon (one of the best women teams , won the women's champions league around that time) played against an amateur team made of the employees of a sponsor, named 3 baies
all amateur players, some fairly old
lyon lost 1-0
then the same amateur players played against the women's team of saint etienne in the same day (because they also sponsor saint etienne) and they won 3-0

 

[Matra2]

After only about 15 minutes the all-white USA are hammering Japan 4-0. The Americans haven't slaughtered the Japanese like this since Nagasaki.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

After only about 15 minutes the all-white USA are hammering Japan 4-0. The Americans haven't slaughtered the Japanese like this since Nagasaki.

Ah so most honorable Mantra sahn. ;-)

 

[Westside]

Congrats to the White USA Soccer Team!!!!!

 

[Shadowlight]

Take note USA pro sports

At the end of the day the team settled for an all white attacking team in spectacular fashion. So the biggest team sports event for women is won by an all white suburban team. NFL, MLB and NBA are you learning something from this--answer is NO.

 

[frederic38]

an example of a friendly match between top feminine players and amateur men:

http://www.lyonfemininefoot.com/pag...-matchs/saison-2010-2011/ma-face-3-baies.html

lyon (one of the best women teams , won the women's champions league around that time) played against an amateur team made of the employees of a sponsor, named 3 baies
all amateur players, some fairly old
lyon lost 1-0
then the same amateur players played against the women's team of saint etienne in the same day (because they also sponsor saint etienne) and they won 3-0

now the women national team of australia beaten 7-0 by the U-15 of an australian club http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...ten-7-0-by-newcastle-jets-under-15-boys-team/

 

[Heretic]

now the women national team of australia beaten 7-0 by the U-15 of an australian club http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...ten-7-0-by-newcastle-jets-under-15-boys-team/

I saw that yesterday and was trying to find out what the racial makeup of the U-15 was, but had no luck.

In any case, it's Hollywood fantasy meets cold-hard reality. So much for "Girrrrrl Power!"...until the next Hollywood "Blockbuster" comes out.

 

[Matra2]

Hollywood has so much chutzpah they'd probably make a film about it but in the movie version the women come back from 7-0 down to win it in extra time thanks to a hat-trick by an Aborigine who'd been a victim of white Australian police abuse!