2014 NFL Draft

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Might have been better if they went to different teams.

I tend to agree. It's pretty cool to have Abbrederis, Nelson, and Janis on the same team but I'd have rather such examples of white talent been spread out around the league a little more, specifically to be on teams where they will have a chance to compete with and outperform black players. Now they'll just be competing against each other.

Looks like the teams take the later round trend for white players into consideration. They like a white player, and a black player. All things being equal they take the black player thinking there's a better chance the white player will still be available on their next turn.

I hope I'm not being Mr. Obvious here.

This probably happens.

Thing is, this could easily be STOPPED if even a few teams started drafting talented white players higher, where they should be drafted. Then other teams could no longer confidently know that Good White Player X will still be around in the 6th round so they'd ALL have to start drafting more fairly instead of letting a player's color influence their choices of when to draft him.
 

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I guess the statistical greatest Dual Threat quarterback in the history of college football (Lynch) has no place in the NFL. I could've sworn that all the experts told me that the NFL was moving to the college read option game. I must have mis-heard...

If I was a bad NFL team I would sign Tebow, Lynch and players like them and play the read option for a year. What have you got to lose?

You can always change systems after you acquire more talent. Meanwhile you could surprise people.
 

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Two good white linebackers, Justin Anderson and Brock Coyle, are still available.
 

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This thread has over 36,000 views.

That means there's a lot of interest in anti-white racism in football and other sports.

And about the readers who are on the fence - they only have to have their eyes opened once...
 

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Draft is over.

Colt Lyerla wasn't drafted. Seems to me he was at least worth a shot in the seventh round.
 

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54 whites drafted including amaro and gaffney. Pathetic. Next year is going to be worse
 

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This year's draft has been a mixed bag as far as who went where, and who is in position to contribute, but still too much white talent passed over at skill positions, especially on defense..

Max Bullough? James Morris? Ty Zimmerman? Tanner Miller? Daniel Sorenson? Dan Fox? Spence Hadley? Kyler Ellsworth? Steele Devitto? Jack Tyler?

With all the dead weight at LB and Safety around the league, I would've thought these guys would be steals in the 6th and 7th, who can step in and contribute NOW. Too many times when some no name black player was picked, I heard 'work in progress', 'raw', 'still learning', ' poor fundamentals and technique', etc... Why do we continue wasting draft picks and throwing money at unfinished products?
 

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This year's draft has been a mixed bag as far as who went where, and who is in position to contribute, but still too much white talent passed over at skill positions, especially on defense..

Max Bullough? James Morris? Ty Zimmerman? Tanner Miller? Daniel Sorenson? Dan Fox? Spence Hadley? Kyler Ellsworth? Steele Devitto? Jack Tyler?

With all the dead weight at LB and Safety around the league, I would've thought these guys would be steals in the 6th and 7th, who can step in and contribute NOW. Too many times when some no name black player was picked, I heard 'work in progress', 'raw', 'still learning', ' poor fundamentals and technique', etc... Why do we continue wasting draft picks and throwing money at unfinished products?

Also, Colt Lyerla, Jordan Lynch, and Taylor Martinez. And lots of really good talent taken in the late rounds where they can easily be cut or forced to serve long racial apprenticeships and stints as special teams demons.

Seemed like the lack of decent black QBs allowed teams to really take their time drafting white ones.

As far as Abbrederis and Janis both being on GB, who knows if it will be a plus or a minus. If taken by different teams in late rounds both could easily be cut, or languish on the fringes for a season or two and then be cut. In Green Bay the odds are decent that at least one will be developed into a starter. Jordy being there as an established star should help also. And their depth at the position is weak, as Cobb is injury prone and Boykin did ok last year but was definitely overhyped in relation to his production. Other than that they really have nobody at WR.
 

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And for the record, U.S. society reached a new low today with the repeatedly shown footage of Michael Sam weeping uncontrollably and making out with his boyfriend as everyone on air congratulated themselves and the Rams and Sam for the "great leap forward" for cultural communism that had taken place.
 

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And for the record, U.S. society reached a new low today with the repeatedly shown footage of Michael Sam weeping uncontrollably and making out with his boyfriend as everyone on air congratulated themselves and the Rams and Sam for the "great leap forward" for cultural communism that had taken place.

Its what happens when you blame a faceless entity like "liberalism" instead of an ethnic group.
 

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Look at all the white players that were steals. Here's a partial list.

Manziel in the first, Savage in the fourth, McCarron in the fifth, Mettenberger in the 6th, Tripp in the fifth, Abbrederis in the fifth and Janis in the seventh.
 

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54/224 = 24%, right on the money.

The fact that the percentage of white players drafted and by extension that of the NFL remains right around the 25% mark year after year, without fail, is a remarkable mathematical achievement. That there's no deviation of a few points in any direction perhaps once every 5-6 years is against all laws of probability and statistics.

It seems that Bigunrealitis is the only logical answer. Somehow, someway, it's ensured that the 24-26% mark shall never be breached, though in coming years, it wouldn't surprise me to see it fall to 20% or so.
 

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54/224 = 24%, right on the money.

The fact that the percentage of white players drafted and by extension that of the NFL remains right around the 25% mark year after year, without fail, is a remarkable mathematical achievement. That there's no deviation of a few points in any direction perhaps once every 5-6 years is against all laws of probability and statistics.

It seems that Bigunrealitis is the only logical answer. Somehow, someway, it's ensured that the 24-26% mark shall never be breached, though in coming years, it wouldn't surprise me to see it fall to 20% or so.

There were 256 picks, so if only 54 Whites were taken that's just 21%.
 

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Wow packers end up snagging Janis blows my mind. Apparently after my little tirade they went on to draft a bunch pale faces. Wish I always saw results like that. The number if deserving guys who were passed over from for bums with upside will never not be enraging.. I just have faith in these blue collar workers to succeed when they finally do get a shot. By now a lot if these guys are used to it because many already faced same issue coming out of high school.
 

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Here is a quick run down by team with specialists included:

AZ
1/7
TE Troy Niklas 2ND

ALT
2/9
Jake Mathews OT 1ST
Tyler Starr OLB 7TH

BAL
4/9
Crockett Gilmore TE 3RD
Brent Urban DT 4TH
Keith Wenning QB 6TH
Mike Campanaro WR 7TH

BUF
0/7

CAR
1/6
Tyler Gaffney 6TH

CHI
2/8
David Fales QB 6TH
Pat O'Donnel P 6TH

CIN
2/8
Russell Bodine C 4TH
AJ McCarron QB 5TH

CLE
2/6
Johnny Manziel QB 1st
Joel Bitonio OT 2ND

DAL
2/9
Zack Martin OL 1st
Ben Gardner DE 7TH

DEN
2/6
Michal Schofield OT 3RD
Matthew Paradis C 6TH

DET
2/8
Travis Swanson C 3RD
Nate Freese K 7TH

GB
3/9
Corey Linsley C 5TH
Jared Abbrederis WR 5TH
Jeff Janis WR 7TH

HOU
3/10
CJ Fiedorowicz TE 3rd
Tom Savage QB 4th
Jay Prosch FB 6TH

IND
1/5
Jack Mewhort OT 3RD

JAX
3/9
Blake Bortles QB 1st
Brandon Linder OL 3RD
Luke Bowanko C 6TH

KC
2/6
Aaron Murray QB 5TH
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OT 6TH

MIA
2/8
Arthur Lynch TE 5th
Jordan Tripp LB 5TH

MIN
0/10

NE
2/9
Jimmy Garoppolo QB 2ND
Bryan Stork C 4TH

NO
1/6
Vinnie Sunseri S 5th

NYG
1/7
Weston Richburg C 2ND

NYJ
2/12
Jace Amaro TE 2ND
Trevor Reilly OLB 7TH

OAK
1/8
Derek Carr QB 2nd

TB
0/6

TEN
2/6
Taylow Lewan OT 1st
Zach Mettenberger QB 6TH

WSH
4/8
Trent Murphy OLB 2ND
Spencer Long OG 3RD
Ted Bolser TE 7TH
Zach Hocker K 7TH



PHI
2/7
Taylor Hart DE 5TH
Beau Allen NT 7TH

PIT
3/9
Wesley Johnson OT 5TH
Jordan Zumwalt LB 6TH
Rob Branchflower TE 7TH

SD
1/6
Chris Watt OG 3RD

SF
1/12
Chris Borland LB 3RD

SEA
2/9
Justin Britt OT 2nd
Cassius Marsh DE 4TH

STL
2/11
Garret Gilbert QB 6TH
Mitchell Van Dyk OT 7T
 

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As far as Abbrederis and Janis both being on GB, who knows if it will be a plus or a minus. If taken by different teams in late rounds both could easily be cut, or languish on the fringes for a season or two and then be cut. In Green Bay the odds are decent that at least one will be developed into a starter. Jordy being there as an established star should help also. And their depth at the position is weak, as Cobb is injury prone and Boykin did ok last year but was definitely overhyped in relation to his production. Other than that they really have nobody at WR.
They also Selected Devante Adams in the 2nd Round.....glad Janis was FINALLY drafted...but 3 WR's is a lot in one draft...

Woody; Thanks for sharing the UDFA's....Zimmerman going to the Saints is interesting(Still cant believe he went undrafted)....who selected this year's ONLY WHITE DB Vinnie Sunseri.....ONE White DB in the entire Draft! PATHETIC!

Browns taking Manziel & another mobile QB Connor Shaw interesting!

Glad to see Neutz already signed...If Colt Lyerla were black...no doubt he would have been drafted.

Maybe Justin Anderson or Brock Coyle to be this year's Paul Worrilow.....and NO James Morris? WOW!

21% Huh? WOW!! What's the All-time Low?? Most dwf's do not realize the phython is slowly constricting white athletes out of the NFL.
 
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GB has lost Driver,Jennings,and now Jones in recent years. So makes sense to reload especially with this years draft class at wideout. Well have to see how things pan out. Also something interesting to note is that Abby and Janis were roommates at senior bowl and now teammates. Packers.com has a couple of good articles very complimentary of the 2.

Baltimore impressed me and Philly taking Hart abd Allen is genius!!
 

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Wow packers end up snagging Janis blows my mind. Apparently after my little tirade they went on to draft a bunch pale faces. Wish I always saw results like that. The number if deserving guys who were passed over from for bums with upside will never not be enraging.. I just have faith in these blue collar workers to succeed when they finally do get a shot. By now a lot if these guys are used to it because many already faced same issue coming out of high school.

I'm glad you used your powers to get deserving white players drafted. Good work!

Janis is an athletic freak. If given an opportunity to develop he could have a big NFL career.
 

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Looking back a year ago there seemed a decent amount the be optimistic about, especially on the defensive side of the ball in terms of draftable talent. Instead of seeing a slight increase in the number of whites taken on defense it went in the total opposite direction. LBs like Bullough, Morris, Jack Tyler, Dan Fox, Glenn Carson and Steele Devitto should of all been drafted. Morgan Breslin was projected as a first round pick - he goes undrafted, same with Zimmerman at DB. Sorensen is another guy that should of been a mid-round draft pick.

When watching the draft and seeing how the "experts" fawned over black players with mediocre measurables and then hearing them describe just about every white player with the exact same caste terminology it just made me wonder when are people going to catch onto this. The rascist cliches are so blatantly obvious, I wanted to reach through my screen and just pummel that dweeb mcshay - he described every white center drafted the exact same way.The draft has gotten exceedingly popular over the past decade or so, most of these DWFs have no mind of their own to ask the obvious questions. It is amazing how dumb and brainwashed our society has become.

I'm not going to pretend I am surprised by the results - I feel I do a pretty good job with my projections of white players, I am not even cautiously optimistic when I project white players, I try to be as realistic as possible. This year I had about 70 guys I felt had a chance at beating the system and getting drafted yet I was off by 15 players.
 

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Jordan Lynch signed by the Bears. Good place for him to start his career. Trestman is an excellent QB coach who mentored Scott Mitchell, Jake Plummer and Rich Gannon during some of their best seasons. Trestman was with the Raiders when Gannon won MVP honors.
 

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I'm glad you used your powers to get deserving white players drafted. Good work!

Janis is an athletic freak. If given an opportunity to develop he could have a big NFL career.

I was watching ESPN when Janis got drafted and noticed his amazing 4.3 speed when running past defensive players in his highlight reel, he truly as another gear. As I am watching this Todd McGay is saying that at the senior bowl he struggled to get separation - AT THE SAME TIME Janis's game film is showing him do just that play after play.
 
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