2014 BYU Cougars

Jack Lambert

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Here are your white starters for the BYU Cougars this year. Since 2005, the Cougars have started 18, 16, 15, 16, 16, 16, 14, 12, and 14 whites. This year, due to a MASSIVE poly infusion on the OL and defense, they drop down to 8 (possibly 9). I might have to be done with college football if this is what one of the whitest teams in the country manages to throw out. White backups are: QB Christian Stewart, WRs Kurt Henderson and Mitch Mathews, TEs Brett Thompson and Bryan Sampson, LT Ryker Mathews, LG Brayden Kearssley, C Terrance Alletto, RG Brock Stringham, RT Kyle Johnson, WOLB Joey Owens, MLB Troy Hinds, SS Chris Badger, and FS Dallin Leavitt. I still can’t believe BYU actually has this few white starters, and there’s no white depth on the DL, filled with polys (who else?) of course.

Offense
QB- Taysom Hill
WR- Nick Kurtz
RG- Brock Stringham - in a fight for the position.
RT- Michael Yeck

Defense
DE- Graham Rowley
DE- Remington Peck
MLB- Zac Stout
FS- Skye Povey
SS- Craig Bills
 
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Don Wassall

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BYU with three White starters on offense??? Very very sad.
 

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BYU with three White starters on offense??? Very very sad.

To put BYU's ridiculous starting lineup into perspective…there are several NFL teams (Patriots, Eagles, Vikings, Packers) who start more whites than BYU, a Mormons-only school of approximately 30,000 students, with around 16,000 male students. Around 12% of all students are non-white, therefore, there are less than 2,000 non-white male students to choose from.

As a teenager and into my early 20’s, I can remember when BYU starting 18-19 whites, usually at every position except for CB (sometimes they had white CB’s too) and perhaps 1 black WR.
 

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I didn't think the Poly Pipeline would be so greatly used so quickly at BYU, but sadly it has been. BYU is a Mormon owned and run school, but it isn't strictly Mormon in terms of the student body or employees. A significant part of the non-LDS BYU student population (varying between 300-500 at any given time) are student-athletes. BYU uses these people to show how much they support diversity, recruiting/admitting those who belong to other races and/or other faiths. The Mormon hierarchy want to update their image for various reasons. Having been there for several years not too many years ago, I can tell you that it was not uncommon to have classes that were all White or to go through a whole day on campus and see a mere handful of diversities out of thousands of students.
 

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Poly pipeline in full force but the defense still looks good. Bills is a great safety prospect just like Sorensen was last year. Excited to see Taysom Hill, Steve Young recently endorsed the athletic QB. Time for him to take next step in the passing game!
 

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Ourlads, which I think gets its depth charts from rivals, has Brock Stringham as the starter at RG.
 

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Poly pipeline in full force but the defense still looks good. Bills is a great safety prospect just like Sorensen was last year. Excited to see Taysom Hill, Steve Young recently endorsed the athletic QB. Time for him to take next step in the passing game!

A majority of non-white defensive starters is never "good" for any team, let alone BYU. If BYU ends up being this dark, I won't pull for them at all and I'll throw away my old BYU hat and shirt. I did it when Colorado State went dark and I'll do it again if it happens in Provo.
 

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A majority of non-white defensive starters is never "good" for any team, let alone BYU. If BYU ends up being this dark, I won't pull for them at all and I'll throw away my old BYU hat and shirt. I did it when Colorado State went dark and I'll do it again if it happens in Provo.

Colonel I agree BYU should have more but 5white starters on D is a rarity these days.. If Georgia had 5 white starters on D we'd praise them..
 

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A majority of non-white defensive starters is never "good" for any team, let alone BYU. If BYU ends up being this dark, I won't pull for them at all and I'll throw away my old BYU hat and shirt. I did it when Colorado State went dark and I'll do it again if it happens in Provo.

Colonel, I wouldn't do that just yet. If anything, it may just be an aberration. A couple of the poly starters on offense (2 OL, the FB, and TE) are seniors, and the entire 2nd string OL and the next two TEs are white players, so the offense should be back to majority white next year. If anything, you can still keep your BYU gear to cheer on their nearly all-white basketball team!!:)

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Colonel I agree BYU should have more but 5white starters on D is a rarity these days.. If Georgia had 5 white starters on D we'd praise them..
  • Different teams have different "standards." For instance, we have grilled teams like Ohio State or Utah and other formerly majority white teams for starting an inexcusably low number of whites. BYU has been darn near the whitest team in the country year in and year out. They have no excuse being this non-white. Georgia and other SEC teams on the other hand, have been consistently coal-black since we've been doing the previews, so when the team breaks that mold and plays white athletes, we praise them for it.
 

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Colonel, I wouldn't do that just yet. If anything, it may just be an aberration. A couple of the poly starters on offense (2 OL, the FB, and TE) are seniors, and the entire 2nd string OL and the next two TEs are white players, so the offense should be back to majority white next year. If anything, you can still keep your BYU gear to cheer on their nearly all-white basketball team!!:)

  • Different teams have different "standards." For instance, we have grilled teams like Ohio State or Utah and other formerly majority white teams for starting an inexcusably low number of whites. BYU has been darn near the whitest team in the country year in and year out. They have no excuse being this non-white. Georgia and other SEC teams on the other hand, have been consistently coal-black since we've been doing the previews, so when the team breaks that mold and plays white athletes, we praise them for it.

celtic, I sincerely hope you are right!

That is what I meant, Jack, and I incorrectly assumed that it was understood.
 

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I noticed BYU's 2nd Team offense more like the older days we are accustomed to seeing.

Different Teams have Different "Standards"...Maybe...but it's also about racial demographics in the individual states too.

For instance there is excitement here at CF because Boise St will be fielding a starting team with 11 white starters...50%.....when then state of Idaho is ONLY 1% black....SAME with Utah with only 1%...we have mentioned West Virginia being a 93% white state...but looking at the football teams(WV & Marshall) you would never know it!

I am not condoning what the SEC is doing with the disparity; but is there really a lot of difference when you look at the larger concentration of blacks down south? Yes Spurrier is basically running a plantation at South Carolina. And when teams haver NO whites o the 2-deep on defense it's disheartening to say the least! Not going to post a map here of the so-called "Black Belt" across the SE....Mississippi is about 40% black; Georgia & Louisiana about a 1/3...so yeah it would be crazy to see their starting defenses as white as a BYU or Boise
 

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I noticed BYU's 2nd Team offense more like the older days we are accustomed to seeing.

Different Teams have Different "Standards"...Maybe...but it's also about racial demographics in the individual states too.

For instance there is excitement here at CF because Boise St will be fielding a starting team with 11 white starters...50%.....when then state of Idaho is ONLY 1% black....SAME with Utah with only 1%...we have mentioned West Virginia being a 93% white state...but looking at the football teams(WV & Marshall) you would never know it!

I am not condoning what the SEC is doing with the disparity; but is there really a lot of difference when you look at the larger concentration of blacks down south? Yes Spurrier is basically running a plantation at South Carolina. And when teams haver NO whites o the 2-deep on defense it's disheartening to say the least! Not going to post a map here of the so-called "Black Belt" across the SE....Mississippi is about 40% black; Georgia & Louisiana about a 1/3...so yeah it would be crazy to see their starting defenses as white as a BYU or Boise

In a fair (non-caste system) world of recruiting and merit based playing time, it wouldn't really be crazy to see half White defenses in the SEC. For the record, I don't think it is good when any team is less than half White, no matter where they are. In my view, they should all be at least half White. We do look at different teams in different areas differently, but the bottom line is that if the team isn't majority White in the long run, they will not generally work against the big lie that props up the Caste System. Having a starting White RB and CB at the same school is fine, but if 16 of 22 starters are non-white, the idea of Whites being just as good or better athletes than non-whites probably won't dawn on very many people. That is why it is so important to have several really good teams that are heavily White (16 or more White starters in my mind). When they beat caste teams, then the point is harder to ignore/easier to see for the DWFs/DTFs of the world.
 

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i will be surprised if Mitch Mathews, a 6-foot-6 junior wideout, doesn't become a big-time player in the BYU offense this fall. he has HUGE hands, a high-flying vertical, and solid speed to go with his imposing size, and he showed flashes last season before injuries derailed his production.

keep an eye on him.
 
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