2012 NFL Week 9

[Don Wassall]

I'm watching Fat Bastard's post-game "press conference." Dull, lifeless, zombified, come to mind watching Reid. Even his trademark mustache is drooping. I can't wait till he's fired at the end of the season, but of course Zionazi owner Jeff Lurie will replace Reid with another Caste coach.

 

[Highlander]

I can't wait till he's fired at the end of the season, but of course Zionazi owner Jeff Lurie will replace Reid with another Caste coach.

There's also been some disconcerting talk that he may wind up back at BYU in some capacity...coach, consultant...

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/55168976-88/reid-byu-coach-eagles.html.csp

 

[bigunreal]

A fitting end to another wasted week watching this zionist sponsored/zulu nonsense. If Mike/Michael Vick hasn't convinced even Joe Theismann that he's horrible by now, I don't know what to say. Every other offense has torn up the Saints' pathetic defense. Somehow, the most magnificent afflete to ever play in the NFL is befuddled by them.

I can't stand Drew Brees. That guy benefits from more cheap, short TD throws than any QB I've even seen, even Aaron Rodgers (who also has his stats greatly padded by this QB-friendly play calling). And yes, I played against Brees in fantasy this week, so I'm bitter. Why can't QBs like Rivers and Stafford benefit from some of this stuff? Only the Saints and Packers seem to never run when they're near the other team's goal line.

Jordy Nelson's new injury was ridiculous. I was watching the game when he tried to catch an underthrown ball from Rodgers. No one touched him. I'm sorry, but you simply have to be tougher than that. And yes, he screwed my fantasy team, too. At least Hartline showed a little toughness (which was surprising, since he took longer than Darren McFadden to heal from his mysterious preseason injury).

Evidently, Toby Gerhart is on a strict, one carry per week quota. How can no one question this? A guy who was said to have been in for a lot of touches is now relegated to working behind WR Harvin in the backfield pecking order? And once again, Peterson continues to avoid that karma that all the positive thinkers assure us is out there, just waiting to strike evil doers. Peterson and his fellow racist Frazier are "keeping down" Gerhart as sure as their own kind was "kept down" by "the man" until fifty years ago. It's that simple, and that obvious. And yet, Peterson gets a full workload, and not even a twinge from his serious injury. Almost supernatural.

With McFadden's latest injury, and one to his backup Goodson as well, it looks like Tubby Tolbert- clone Marcell Reese is in line to be the primary back for the Raiders now. Reese has long been a favorite with DWFs on fantasy forums, who would of course scoff mercilessly at any pudgy white FB who dared to touch the football. Meanwhile, potential top tier backs like Gerhart, Woodhead and Hillis swim helplessly against the current in various distasteful situations with their ball clubs.

It is great to see RGIII start to come back to earth a bit. However, his lack of turnovers is still uncanny. And Russell Wilson's relative success is even more incomprehensible to me. I do not, and will not, accept that this tiny black quarterback is a legitimate NFL starter. I don't care how many games "he" wins. It just reinforces my own beliefs that the games aren't legitimate.

How do we explain the success of the Steelers again? They are almost an all black, affirmative action squad, with the ultimate affirmative action hire in head coach "Sexy" Mike Tomlin. They are aging, and are missing their pudgy Samoan superstar on defense, and yet they continue to win. How is this possible? Even with all the teams being poorly coached, and full of affirmative action employees on the field, the Steelers stand out as perhaps the most extreme, consistent example of the Caste System, having stayed blacker than the rest of the league now for nearly 40 years.

Shockingly, Rex Ryan continues to remain supportive of the terrible Mark Sanchez, even after the team's bye week. Tebow is being royally screwed, but at least he's being paid well to be a court jester, circus sideshow type of "player."

I will hold out hope that things will get better for Hillis, Woodhead, Gerhart and others over the second half of this season, but as always it's very hard to be optimistic.

 

[davidholly]

Griffin has actually had 8 fumbles this year, almost as bad as Vick's fumble total, the Redskins have just been lucky enough to recover most of them.

And in regards to Tebow-Sanchez I still maintain that Greg McElroy is better than both of them.

 

[sport historian]

A fitting end to another wasted week watching this zionist sponsored/zulu nonsense. If Mike/Michael Vick hasn't convinced even Joe Theismann that he's horrible by now, I don't know what to say. Every other offense has torn up the Saints' pathetic defense. Somehow, the most magnificent afflete to ever play in the NFL is befuddled by them.

I can't stand Drew Brees. That guy benefits from more cheap, short TD throws than any QB I've even seen, even Aaron Rodgers (who also has his stats greatly padded by this QB-friendly play calling). And yes, I played against Brees in fantasy this week, so I'm bitter. Why can't QBs like Rivers and Stafford benefit from some of this stuff? Only the Saints and Packers seem to never run when they're near the other team's goal line.

Jordy Nelson's new injury was ridiculous. I was watching the game when he tried to catch an underthrown ball from Rodgers. No one touched him. I'm sorry, but you simply have to be tougher than that. And yes, he screwed my fantasy team, too. At least Hartline showed a little toughness (which was surprising, since he took longer than Darren McFadden to heal from his mysterious preseason injury).

Evidently, Toby Gerhart is on a strict, one carry per week quota. How can no one question this? A guy who was said to have been in for a lot of touches is now relegated to working behind WR Harvin in the backfield pecking order? And once again, Peterson continues to avoid that karma that all the positive thinkers assure us is out there, just waiting to strike evil doers. Peterson and his fellow racist Frazier are "keeping down" Gerhart as sure as their own kind was "kept down" by "the man" until fifty years ago. It's that simple, and that obvious. And yet, Peterson gets a full workload, and not even a twinge from his serious injury. Almost supernatural.

With McFadden's latest injury, and one to his backup Goodson as well, it looks like Tubby Tolbert- clone Marcell Reese is in line to be the primary back for the Raiders now. Reese has long been a favorite with DWFs on fantasy forums, who would of course scoff mercilessly at any pudgy white FB who dared to touch the football. Meanwhile, potential top tier backs like Gerhart, Woodhead and Hillis swim helplessly against the current in various distasteful situations with their ball clubs.

It is great to see RGIII start to come back to earth a bit. However, his lack of turnovers is still uncanny. And Russell Wilson's relative success is even more incomprehensible to me. I do not, and will not, accept that this tiny black quarterback is a legitimate NFL starter. I don't care how many games "he" wins. It just reinforces my own beliefs that the games aren't legitimate.

How do we explain the success of the Steelers again? They are almost an all black, affirmative action squad, with the ultimate affirmative action hire in head coach "Sexy" Mike Tomlin. They are aging, and are missing their pudgy Samoan superstar on defense, and yet they continue to win. How is this possible? Even with all the teams being poorly coached, and full of affirmative action employees on the field, the Steelers stand out as perhaps the most extreme, consistent example of the Caste System, having stayed blacker than the rest of the league now for nearly 40 years.

Shockingly, Rex Ryan continues to remain supportive of the terrible Mark Sanchez, even after the team's bye week. Tebow is being royally screwed, but at least he's being paid well to be a court jester, circus sideshow type of "player."

I will hold out hope that things will get better for Hillis, Woodhead, Gerhart and others over the second half of this season, but as always it's very hard to be optimistic.

So you're back to saying the games are fixed again? Why didn't they fix it for Vick and the Eagles to have a winning season? If they can fix it for RGIII to have few turnovers, why not arrange for him to have more wins?

 

[icsept]

How about Riley Cooper's 95 yard kickoff return for a TD (called back due to the forward lateral). He ran like a gazelle, easily gliding the length of the field. My brainwashed wife said incredulously, "that was a White guy?!" Yeah, buried on the bench, a damn shame. I'd love to see Tebow and Cooper reunited on Jacksonville.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

I do not, and will not, accept that this tiny black quarterback is a legitimate NFL starter. I don't care how many games "he" wins. It just reinforces my own beliefs that the games aren't legitimate.

bigunreal do you really believe that EVERY snap in EVERY game is "rigged/set-up/orchestrated/choreographed?
Ive never actually read one of your post where you make that extreme of a claim. Ive only seen others say thats what you believe, so I gotta ask the man himself.

 

[dwid]

A fitting end to another wasted week watching this zionist sponsored/zulu nonsense. If Mike/Michael Vick hasn't convinced even Joe Theismann that he's horrible by now, I don't know what to say. Every other offense has torn up the Saints' pathetic defense. Somehow, the most magnificent afflete to ever play in the NFL is befuddled by them.

I can't stand Drew Brees. That guy benefits from more cheap, short TD throws than any QB I've even seen, even Aaron Rodgers (who also has his stats greatly padded by this QB-friendly play calling). And yes, I played against Brees in fantasy this week, so I'm bitter. Why can't QBs like Rivers and Stafford benefit from some of this stuff? Only the Saints and Packers seem to never run when they're near the other team's goal line.

Jordy Nelson's new injury was ridiculous. I was watching the game when he tried to catch an underthrown ball from Rodgers. No one touched him. I'm sorry, but you simply have to be tougher than that. And yes, he screwed my fantasy team, too. At least Hartline showed a little toughness (which was surprising, since he took longer than Darren McFadden to heal from his mysterious preseason injury).


I will hold out hope that things will get better for Hillis, Woodhead, Gerhart and others over the second half of this season, but as always it's very hard to be optimistic.

You are aware that Jordy already had a hamstring injury, right? and that by playing on that injury he is more prone to other injuries, which is why Peterson had a second injury when he came back to play on another injury last year, which is why Gerhart was allowed to play a few games. I was hoping it would happen to him this year but it didn't. Injuries are funny like that. Black guys fall to the ground when anything HURTS, not injury, but hurts. White guys play through pain all the time, which is why this happens. So your solution is not working and only causing our guys to be out for longer. If Jordy had let the ****ing thing healed he could've been back much sooner, no other injury. If Burkhead had just ****ing waited we might have another Toby Gerhart situation, but since he didn't he will be lucky to play in their bowl game, and it doesn't mean jack what a White college player did their first 3 years, its their last year that matters the most, so we will be lucky to see him drafted by the 5th.

As far "cheap short td throws", you are aware that its harder to complete throws the closer you are to the goal line, right? everything becomes more compact and easier for the defense to defend, you know because of less space. So there are tighter windows etc.

The reason those guys have teams that run more in the redzone, is because either they can't consistently throw tds in the redzone without getting picked off, or their coach doesn't trust them.

If you want to talk about cheap yards well:
Rivers -1866 yac - 993
Stafford- 2393 yac- 1024
Rodgers- 2383-yac - 1037
Drew Brees - 2459yac - 954


As far "cheap tds"
Drew Brees

Marques Colston 1 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Jimmy Graham 6 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Jimmy Graham 18 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Darren Sproles 29 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Marques Colston 17 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Darren Sproles 9 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Joseph Morgan 48 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
David Thomas 20 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Devery Henderson 40 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Marques Colston 19 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick
Marques Colston 16 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Marques Colston 5 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Marques Colston 20 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Darren Sproles 6 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Joseph Morgan 80 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Lance Moore 9 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Jimmy Graham 1 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Jed Collins 6 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Jimmy Graham 1 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Jimmy Graham 20 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)
Lance Moore 33 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Darren Sproles Run For Two-Point Conversion)
Darren Sproles 2 Yd Pass From Drew Brees (Garrett Hartley Kick)

Phillip Rivers

Malcom Floyd 6 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nate Kaeding Kick)
Dante Rosario 11 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nate Kaeding Kick)
Dante Rosario 15 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nate Kaeding Kick)
Eddie Royal 4 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nick Novak Kick)
Jackie Battle 4 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nick Novak Kick)
Robert Meachem 15 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nick Novak Kick)
Robert Meachem 44 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nick Novak Kick)
Antonio Gates 15 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nick Novak Kick)
Antonio Gates 11 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nick Novak Kick)
Antonio Gates 14 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nick Novak Kick)
Malcom Floyd 13 Yd Pass From Philip Rivers (Nick Novak Kick)

Matthew Stafford

Kevin Smith 5 Yd Pass From Matthew Stafford (Jason Hanson Kick)
Brandon Pettigrew 9 Yd Pass From Matthew Stafford (Jason Hanson Kick)
Nate Burleson 3 Yd Pass From Matthew Stafford (Matthew Stafford Pass To Nate Burleson For Two-Point Conversion)
Nate Burleson 17 Yd Pass From Matthew Stafford (Jason Hanson Kick)
Ryan Broyles 12 Yd Pass From Matthew Stafford (Jason Hanson Kick)
Ryan Broyles 6 Yd Pass From Matthew Stafford (Jason Hanson Kick)
Titus Young 46 Yd Pass From Matthew Stafford (Jason Hanson Kick
Titus Young 1 Yd Pass From Matthew Stafford (Jason Hanson Kick)


Aaron Rodgers
James Jones 10 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Tom Crabtree 27 Yd Pass From Tim Masthay (Mason Crosby Kick)
Donald Driver 26 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
James Jones 12 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Greg Jennings 9 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
James Jones 14 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Jordy Nelson 11 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
James Jones 6 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Randall Cobb 31 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
James Jones 8 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Two-Point Pass Conversion Failed)
Jordy Nelson 41 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
James Jones 6 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Jordy Nelson 21 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Jordy Nelson 1 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Tom Crabtree 48 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
James Jones 18 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Jordy Nelson 3 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Randall Cobb 5 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Randall Cobb 39 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Randall Cobb 5 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Donald Driver 4 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Randall Cobb 13 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Randall Cobb 21 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
James Jones 28 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)
Tom Crabtree 72 Yd Pass From Aaron Rodgers (Mason Crosby Kick)

As far as those goal line tds, the main thing to making them easy to complete is actually attempting to run, I know at least one of the tds last night was play action (which means they faked the run)

going through the stats I saw one and 2 yard runs by all teams, and even Drew Brees had a 1 yard run. Rivers has a terrible coach and not much talent around him. It took Robert Meachem 3 or 4 years to learn one playbook and I met him once and I don't think his brain is actually thinking anything unless you ask him a question, even then he didn't seem sure of what he was talking about. As far as Stafford, I don't know , don't watch them that much, seems like he is just forcing a ton of passes to Calvin Johnson, who is no longer MegaTron because he isn't doing squat, he finally had a big game last week, but no tds and lots of drops this year, and that whole "catches anything thrown to him" not true anymore, and he is a big dude, you should be able to take advantage of that, but it seems the ball has to be right on the money, haven't seen the freak catches or anything.

It is concerning that Rivers has more yac than RG3 and if you are suggesting they are running it too much in those situations, lets assume they didn't, and Rivers made the td by passing, then he would have 4 more passing tds, a total of 12.


Stafford finally threw a big td to Titus Young, the week before that Titus Young had a big td, 40+ yards, but it was from SHAUN HILL It seems like your memory is that of the dwf, you remember the last couple of games and that seems to be it. Well, a dwf would only remember a game it if a White guy made a mistake, and apparently throwing for a td in a goal line situation is mistake in your eyes.


I mean did you forget that Adrian Peterson had a small injury last year? and then had the ligaments in his knee torn after that because he kept playing? Did you forget that Wes Welker had his acl/mcl torn and came back to play in a shorter period of time without any injury? Where is the conspiracy in that. Its simple, when you are hurt or injured, your body is out of sync because it is overcompensating in other areas to heal itself making an injured person, more prone to injury. As far that other injury Peterson had, I don't know if it was bad or not, because It seems most blacks don't know the difference between pain and injury, he might have had some pain. I was hoping his injury situation would get worse since thats what happens to so many guys who try to play on them, but there are always exceptions to the rule.

Its fitting that you would believe in some sort of conspiracy for events you can't explain when don't even understand the aspect of playaction and the fact that neither the Saints or the Packers have a guy that can consistently get it into the endzone. Mark Ingram finally looked like a halfway decent back last night. Usually he gets stuffed at the line or gains one yard, he has failed as a short yardage/goal line back. Pierre Thomas can't carry the ball more than 10 times a game without getting injured, and if you try to pound him into the goalline too many times a season he will get injured, because he runs like he is Mike Alstott with less athletic ability and weighing 210 pounds. The other main back they have been using is Darren Sproles, who has a hand injury, but wait, it didn't occur on the field...must be some sort of conspiracy right? or the dumbass could have punched his locker after a loss, or maybe he slipped on a mcdonalds hamburger wrapper and his hand went through the tv. Oh i forgot to explain Sproles is 5'6 180 pounds, those kinds of guys don't make good goal line backs. Another note is that if you don't seem to realize that black players continue to bite (bit meaning they play the run, well most are just frozen [meaning standing still] for a split second before realizing its a pass, which still gives them reaction time to play the pass because of the fact that they don't have much field to cover in the endzone) on play action fakes when a team hardly ever runs it during goal line situations. These are the same players that are involved in some type of conspiracy?

Why do the Steelers continue to win? because they have a good White qb, and they are finally utilizing Heath Miller more. They faced Sanchez, Vick and RG3, thats 3 wins right there. Hes thrown 5 tds and 1 int in the past 2 games. He threw for close to 400 yards and 4 tds against the Raiders and his team still lost, so they aren't the perfect team. Big Ben is a winner, and even though their line is terrible at pass blocking, they can run block. This is one thing I give blacks credit for, they can run block, and its usually at its best when its against other black guys, which is what most defensive lines consist of. Now pass blocking is a litttle different and seems complicated to the ones I have dealt with which is one of the reasons why less Whites on dline, its coming from the bottom up, the good White linemen are put on offense, its easier for a black guy to play on defensive line.

I don't know why Drew Brees is the most hated person on this board, or at least the most underrated and most disrespected. He consistently plays great with nobodies. Graham isn't some elite tigh end, Drew Brees made him, the way he made Antonio Gates. He doesn't have a deep threat. Joe Morgan is his deep threat and finally caught two passes that one game and hurt his chest. Henderson is old, can't get seperation and has hands of stone, yet they still trot him out there. Coaching? yeah he HAD a great coach, but where is he now? The interim head coach just came back the other week. Yeah he does a "zulu chant" so ****ing what? I don't get to choose who I work with, and the enviornment is "diverse" you have to find ways to pump up those kind of people into putting their best effort in, and it takes creativity and to an outsider you would look stupid, but if I want to keep my job I do it. Drew has a majority black line, which finally has a whopping TWO White guys now, it was 1 for his entire stint here before this year, the LT shouldn't be starting and the guards are the most overrated in the league, well the one that left was part of the tandem that is overrated, and got, I believe one of the biggest contracts, not looking so good with the Bucs, a product of Brees moving around the pocket so well avoiding the defenders they fail to block.

 

[Don Wassall]

I don't know why Drew Brees is the most hated person on this board, or at least the most underrated and most disrespected. He consistently plays great with nobodies. Graham isn't some elite tigh end, Drew Brees made him, the way he made Antonio Gates. He doesn't have a deep threat. Joe Morgan is his deep threat and finally caught two passes that one game and hurt his chest. Henderson is old, can't get seperation and has hands of stone, yet they still trot him out there. Coaching? yeah he HAD a great coach, but where is he now? The interim head coach just came back the other week. Yeah he does a "zulu chant" so ****ing what? I don't get to choose who I work with, and the enviornment is "diverse" you have to find ways to pump up those kind of people into putting their best effort in, and it takes creativity and to an outsider you would look stupid, but if I want to keep my job I do it. Drew has a majority black line, which finally has a whopping TWO White guys now, it was 1 for his entire stint here before this year, the LT shouldn't be starting and the guards are the most overrated in the league, well the one that left was part of the tandem that is overrated, and got, I believe one of the biggest contracts, not looking so good with the Bucs, a product of Brees moving around the pocket so well avoiding the defenders they fail to block.

I agree with you. It seems that some expect White quarterbacks to live up to perfect standards of conduct, and denounce them when they don't. I'm pretty sure Drew Brees is liberal politically, but I still admire him. He was written off as too short to succeed in the NFL but has been outstanding year after year.

White football players are in what is designed and encouraged to be a very black environment. Brees is well-spoken, is very active in his community, and carries himself with class off the field. If he spoke and acted like a wigger, that would be a different story, but I don't know of any White QBs in the NFL that speak and act that way. The chant is an engrained pre-game ritual and it turns me off as well, but that's the Caste NFL. I don't like many of the ritualized celebrations in baseball that didn't use to exist, and it's mostly Whites participating in them. White NFL players have to adjust to their environment, or they can give up their multi-million dollar salaries and celebrity status for a regular job.

 

[bigunreal]

I said nothing about fixed games. I merely said I don't believe Russell Wilson could be a successful NFL QB if the games are legitimate. Take that as you will. Keep telling yourself that the NFL- which consists of teams that clearly don't play the best players for reasons unrelated to football skills, is a shining example of American capitalism.

Dwid- thanks for devoting such a lengthy response to my extreme rant. I have had Direct Ticket for years, and watch all the games. I know what I'm talking about regarding Brees and Rodgers- their offenses are designed to get them cheap TDs near the goal line. They rarely even attempt a run in the red zone. The brilliant Norv Turner, on the other hand, always runs in the red zone on first down, usually on second down, and frequently on third down. Last year, Psycho Jim Schwartz was more creative in the red zone. Now that he has the plodding perpetual criminal Michael LeTourde at RB, he always runs in the red zone, too.

I support fairness in everything. The NFL clearly isn't fair to white players. However, unlike some here I do not feel compelled to blindly support every white player. They are often part of the problem. I love Jordy, but if you saw the play in question (I saw it live), you would also question how he could have been seriously injured on the play. I've been watching these games nearly as long as Sport Historian, and there is no question that all players are more easily injured now than they were forty years ago.

As I've noted, I'm not saying whites are more injury prone, or wimpier than blacks. Clearly, many blacks get hurt if they walk across a field. However, whites cannot afford to let anything other than the most serious injuries keep them from playing for any length of time. That's just the reality of the Caste System, and if it is to ever be overturned, then the Peyton Hillis-Brian Hartline types are going to have to recover from what appear to be rather trivial injuries much faster than they have in the past.

I don't like Brees. I will admit that. From his Zulu chanting to his cheap padding of stats, to his outspoken defense of the bounty system run by his largely black defensive teammates, I think he would be the last person to stick up for a white player (not that he is ever likely to have a white skill player on the Saints). I also don't like Rodgers, who made that inane commenting about James Jones last season, urging the Packers to resign him, and absurdly claiming he had helped them win the Super Bowl, when in fact he was barely used in the postseason.

I believe the NFL is as corrupt as any other huge part of our corporate fascist state. Why their games are considered sacrosanct by so many here puzzles me. Ridicule my "conspiracy theories" all you want- you're just doing the same thing the msm does to anyone who questions any part of the corruption. Organized corruption-which is what America is at this point- is the very definition of conspiracy.

 

[dwid]

I said nothing about fixed games. I merely said I don't believe Russell Wilson could be a successful NFL QB if the games are legitimate. Take that as you will. Keep telling yourself that the NFL- which consists of teams that clearly don't play the best players for reasons unrelated to football skills, is a shining example of American capitalism.

Dwid- thanks for devoting such a lengthy response to my extreme rant. I have had Direct Ticket for years, and watch all the games. I know what I'm talking about regarding Brees and Rodgers- their offenses are designed to get them cheap TDs near the goal line. They rarely even attempt a run in the red zone. The brilliant Norv Turner, on the other hand, always runs in the red zone on first down, usually on second down, and frequently on third down. Last year, Psycho Jim Schwartz was more creative in the red zone. Now that he has the plodding perpetual criminal Michael LeTourde at RB, he always runs in the red zone, too.

I support fairness in everything. The NFL clearly isn't fair to white players. However, unlike some here I do not feel compelled to blindly support every white player. They are often part of the problem. I love Jordy, but if you saw the play in question (I saw it live), you would also question how he could have been seriously injured on the play. I've been watching these games nearly as long as Sport Historian, and there is no question that all players are more easily injured now than they were forty years ago.

As I've noted, I'm not saying whites are more injury prone, or wimpier than blacks. Clearly, many blacks get hurt if they walk across a field. However, whites cannot afford to let anything other than the most serious injuries keep them from playing for any length of time. That's just the reality of the Caste System, and if it is to ever be overturned, then the Peyton Hillis-Brian Hartline types are going to have to recover from what appear to be rather trivial injuries much faster than they have in the past.

I don't like Brees. I will admit that. From his Zulu chanting to his cheap padding of stats, to his outspoken defense of the bounty system run by his largely black defensive teammates, I think he would be the last person to stick up for a white player (not that he is ever likely to have a white skill player on the Saints). I also don't like Rodgers, who made that inane commenting about James Jones last season, urging the Packers to resign him, and absurdly claiming he had helped them win the Super Bowl, when in fact he was barely used in the postseason.

I believe the NFL is as corrupt as any other huge part of our corporate fascist state. Why their games are considered sacrosanct by so many here puzzles me. Ridicule my "conspiracy theories" all you want- you're just doing the same thing the msm does to anyone who questions any part of the corruption. Organized corruption-which is what America is at this point- is the very definition of conspiracy.

I think its okay to not like a player, but to degrade their play and act like their accomplishments are nothing like they play in some magical system that allows them to score tds, like in the redzone, which THE hardest thing to do, which is why teams so often run, because like I stated, there is smaller amount of space for defenders to cover. Its no different than those who degrade players like Welker saying that its the system that allows him to put up his stats. If any player could do it, then they would, but they don't, and Brees is the only player to have a td in what, I can't even count how many games now, and as you can see from the previous post, not all of them were "cheap tds" as what you refer to them as. Norv is stupid and thinks he still has LT, could Phillip Rivers get them tds in goal line situations consistently like a Brees or a Rodgers? probably, but he is more prone to interception. Having Direct Tv doesn't make you know what you are talking about regarding the schemes Rodgers and Brees play in. If you want to consider them against our cause because of behavior, then you would probably be against a majority of White player in the league if you met them in real life. Those two are only guys that we have seen more of, high profile quarterbacks.

I really don't care how long you watched the game for, memories fade easily and are surprised you are so White friendly since they constantly talking about black superiority as athletes in games that I have dating back to the 70's, comments such as "not the fastest player", yeah you might not remember all of those comments but it goes into your head whether you remember or not. Yes players didn't get hurt as often back then, but different training techniques and how the game is played. I think the way things are run now increases injury, so I agree with you on that point. However, concussions have always been a big issue and many players are suing that played back then. Still we have many White players, most who are special teams, constantly receive what they believe to be "bell ringers" which are concussions, and play through them. Steve Gleason was one, and now is dying, I believe he was taken to the hospital last night because he was unresponsive. You want White players to be warriors and kamikazes, sacrificing themselves for a game where the coaches and owners DONT GIVE A FLYING **** ABOUT THEM and will screw them over in a heartbeat. Should we want Whites to do this just so we have some extra guys to root for? no, because there are tons of White athletes that will fall through the cracks in the future to replace these guys if they do get screwed over. Its better for them to be able to be healthy the rest of their life so they can raise their White families. This is the main problem I have with your posts. Thanks for clarifying your views on Whites, because I used to get a vibe that you viewed them as weaker and made of glass.

You are implying the game is not legitimate, not much difference from your fixed theory , and you just said it, and that makes our cause look stupid (although it is fun reading your posts), unlike the caste system, there is no evidence to support your claims. We have tons of evidence that the best players don't play. Do you think maybe this is why Wilson is doing okay for the moment? I wouldn't call is successful, but they have won some games. Lesser talent on defense, which consist of mostly black players and only one good team in their division.

 

[Don Wassall]

I believe the NFL is as corrupt as any other huge part of our corporate fascist state. Why their games are considered sacrosanct by so many here puzzles me. Ridicule my "conspiracy theories" all you want- you're just doing the same thing the msm does to anyone who questions any part of the corruption. Organized corruption-which is what America is at this point- is the very definition of conspiracy.

I don't think anyone here thinks NFL games are "sacrosanct" -- that's simply a way of belittling those who don't agree with your viewpoint by distorting theirs. If there are any genuine fans of the NFL that post here, I would like to know who they are. We can all agree that the league is corrupt. The Caste System alone obviously makes the games less than sancrosanct. And we've had plenty of threads discussing the very strong possibility that some games might have been fixed or "tweaked."

Your "conspiracy theory" deserves ridicule because it holds that every single NFL game -- in fact every professional sporting event and also college games -- are pre-scripted and fixed with everyone involved (countless thousands of athletes, coaches, executives, and their friends and families) knowing about it and playing their assigned roles without complaint and in a total secrecy that they maintain the rest of their lives. When the many flaws are pointed out, you simply ignore them, or do as you did above, distort the position of others.

When even the slightest bit of evidence is found supporting it then that's a different story, but in the meantime it remains crackpot stuff and detracts from Caste Football and its mission of supporting White athletes and is not a subject for discussion.

 

[sport historian]

I said nothing about fixed games. I merely said I don't believe Russell Wilson could be a successful NFL QB if the games are legitimate. Take that as you will. Keep telling yourself that the NFL- which consists of teams that clearly don't play the best players for reasons unrelated to football skills, is a shining example of American capitalism.

Dwid- thanks for devoting such a lengthy response to my extreme rant. I have had Direct Ticket for years, and watch all the games. I know what I'm talking about regarding Brees and Rodgers- their offenses are designed to get them cheap TDs near the goal line. They rarely even attempt a run in the red zone. The brilliant Norv Turner, on the other hand, always runs in the red zone on first down, usually on second down, and frequently on third down. Last year, Psycho Jim Schwartz was more creative in the red zone. Now that he has the plodding perpetual criminal Michael LeTourde at RB, he always runs in the red zone, too.

I support fairness in everything. The NFL clearly isn't fair to white players. However, unlike some here I do not feel compelled to blindly support every white player. They are often part of the problem. I love Jordy, but if you saw the play in question (I saw it live), you would also question how he could have been seriously injured on the play. I've been watching these games nearly as long as Sport Historian, and there is no question that all players are more easily injured now than they were forty years ago.

As I've noted, I'm not saying whites are more injury prone, or wimpier than blacks. Clearly, many blacks get hurt if they walk across a field. However, whites cannot afford to let anything other than the most serious injuries keep them from playing for any length of time. That's just the reality of the Caste System, and if it is to ever be overturned, then the Peyton Hillis-Brian Hartline types are going to have to recover from what appear to be rather trivial injuries much faster than they have in the past.

I don't like Brees. I will admit that. From his Zulu chanting to his cheap padding of stats, to his outspoken defense of the bounty system run by his largely black defensive teammates, I think he would be the last person to stick up for a white player (not that he is ever likely to have a white skill player on the Saints). I also don't like Rodgers, who made that inane commenting about James Jones last season, urging the Packers to resign him, and absurdly claiming he had helped them win the Super Bowl, when in fact he was barely used in the postseason.

I believe the NFL is as corrupt as any other huge part of our corporate fascist state. Why their games are considered sacrosanct by so many here puzzles me. Ridicule my "conspiracy theories" all you want- you're just doing the same thing the msm does to anyone who questions any part of the corruption. Organized corruption-which is what America is at this point- is the very definition of conspiracy.

By your reasoning, the NFL from 1933-45 and the pre-1968 SEC were not "legitimate." Blacks weren't allowed in the SEC and there weren't any in the NFL in 1933-45.

Whatever the parameters, if the players are out to win, the games are legitimate. This includes Wilson playing for Seattle.

We all agree white RBs are not wanted and black QBs are force-fed. The teams are expected to be overwhelmingly black. The games are still "legitimate" on their own terms.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

Your "conspiracy theory" deserves ridicule because it holds that every single NFL game -- in fact every professional sporting event and also college games -- are pre-scripted and fixed with everyone involved (countless thousands of athletes, coaches, executives, and their friends and families) knowing about it and playing their assigned roles without complaint and in a total secrecy that they maintain the rest of their lives.

Don is this really what he thinks? I havent yet seen him post anything this extreme yet.

 

[Don Wassall]

Don is this really what he thinks? I havent yet seen him post anything this extreme yet.

Bigunreal posted variations of that basic "theory" pretty much non-stop for a couple of years, so I asked him to stop as I believe it discredits the site for those who come here with an open mind when it comes to discrimination against White athletes. I like a lot of his posts when he stays away from that particular obsession, so please pm him if you want to pursue the topic with him.

 

[white defensive back]

Bigunreal posted variations of that basic "theory" pretty much non-stop for a couple of years, so I asked him to stop as I believe it discredits the site for those who come here with an open mind when it comes to discrimination against White athletes. I like a lot of his posts when he stays away from that particular obsession, so please pm him if you want to pursue the topic with him.

Thank god I dont sound like a jerk here though I probably do but there are a few really paranoid people on this site. I am FAR from perfect but can spot the simple minded people once in a while. 911 was not a conspiracy and unfortunately Romney is not gonna win tonight. Sorry guys.

 

[dwid]

Thank god I dont sound like a jerk here though I probably do but there are a few really paranoid people on this site. I am FAR from perfect but can spot the simple minded people once in a while. 911 was not a conspiracy and unfortunately Romney is not gonna win tonight. Sorry guys.

yeah simple minded, I wonder who comes across as that....
so no you don't sound like a jerk but to bring up 911 and the election in this thread was pointless. We had a discussion that wasn't 100 percent about the topic but come on man