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The Chiefs have made a few positive moves this year, the biggest in obtaining Peyton Hillis, which instantly make them worth rooting for.

However, as is the norm for the Chefs they once again most likely wasted their first-round pick on a project black sumo DL Dontari Poe. Here is the latest top Chiefs pick that (I think) will join Ryan Sims, Glenn Dorsey, and Tyson Jackson as high-first-round colossal busts.

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Glenn Dorsey received so much media hype the year he was drafted, but barely a peep since then after becoming an instant disappointment. He's the black equivalent to Tony Mandarich, but with 1/1000 of the negative publicity.
 

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Glenn Dorsey received so much media hype the year he was drafted, but barely a peep since then after becoming an instant disappointment. He's the black equivalent to Tony Mandarich, but with 1/1000 of the negative publicity.

dont forget about Sedrick Ellis, Dorsey and Ellis were supposed to be 1a and 1b. Ellis has graded out pretty poorly at his position, I think bottom 3 at 3-tech.
 

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Skimming through the Chiefs' UDFA signings, this is what the KC Star had to say about Nate Eachus:

Running back (1): Nate Eachus, Colgate. He;s just 5-feet-10 and 212 pounds, but Eachus rushed for almost 4,500 yards in four collegiate seasons.
"Just 5-11, 212"?? And that's not a good size for a RB?? I guess that players like Chris Johnson, who's only 5-11, 191, and the Chiefs own Jamaal Charles, 5-11, 199 and the like should just hang 'em up then, right?
 

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Skimming through the Chiefs' UDFA signings, this is what the KC Star had to say about Nate Eachus:

"Just 5-11, 212"?? And that's not a good size for a RB?? I guess that players like Chris Johnson, who's only 5-11, 191, and the Chiefs own Jamaal Charles, 5-11, 199 and the like should just hang 'em up then, right?

You seriously cannot win when you are a white runningback. No matter your size they always nit pick. Eachus is the perfect size to be a RB in the NFL. He's almost 6 foot and is stout and strong as hell(24 bench reps). I am hoping he can make the Chiefs roster or at least the practice squad. He'll be battling Cyrus Gray and Shaun Draughn to be backups to Hillis and Charles.
 

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2012 NFL Draft Analysis: Devon Wylie Is A Late-Round Steal

May 07 12:42p by Brandon K. Scott
Read More: Dontari Poe (DT - KAN), Devon Wylie (WR - KAN), Kansas City Chiefs

The Kansas City Chiefs' draft picks are expected to have an impact on the team returning to playoff form after barely missing out on the postseason in 2011.

Over at Mocking the Draft, Matthew Fariburn has analyzed the Chiefs' 2012 draft choices, with their top pick Dontari Poe striking him as a "massive risk at No. 11 in every sense of the word."

But Fairburn is high on Devon Wylie, who he considers to be a steal in the fourth round of the draft. Check out the commentary from Mocking the Draft here:

Questionable Pick
: DT Dontari Poe, Round 1, pick 11
Dontari Poe had a fantastic combine, and the potential is there for him to be an impact player in the middle of Kansas City's 3-4 defense. But to me, spending the No. 11 pick on Poe is taking quite the gamble. He never looked the part of an early first round pick during his career at Memphis. Impressive combine numbers and a huge need for a nose tackle are not reasons enough to make Poe a top 15 pick.

Late-Round Steal: Devon Wylie, Round 4, pick 107
The fourth round may not be considered late, but I think Devon Wylie will end up being one of the best slot receivers to come out of this year's draft. He is an advanced route runner at this stage in his career, but it's Wylie's quickness that gives me faith in him in the NFL. He rarely drops a pass and has the ability to separate from defenders coming out of his breaks. This was a wise pick by the Chiefs.
 

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At the rookie mini-camp, former Oklahoma long-snapper James Winchester was an invitee, but rather than long-snapping, he was working in the WR group, and doing quite well according to this article snippet below. Another example of white player versatility.
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3) James Winchester is an interesting story. He served as Oklahoma’s long snapper last season, but is working as a wide receiver at minicamp. The only receiving he did for the Sooners was as a scout team player. While Winchester struggled with some of the footwork drills, he made several nice catches in 7-on-7 including a leaping grip during the 11-on-11 team period.
 

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I think Wylie will be their slot receiver, though it may take a season or two or three. McCluster has been a flop through two NFL seasons -- a smurf who has no big play ability is a big-time liability, even in the Caste NFL. Wylie will easily outshine McCluster, in fact there's a chance McCluster doesn't make the roster.

Wylie's other competition is Steve Breaston, who is an average possession receiver. Breaston is from the Pittsburgh area, like Terrelle Pryor, and was just as hyped as Pryor coming out of high school before greatly underachieving at Michigan.

Jonathan Baldwin is going into his second season and is a major bonehead. He was injured much of last season after getting in a fight with a teammate, but he of course is supposed to have great "upside" (much like McCluster and Breaston were supposed to have had).

Dwayne Bowe is the one star KC has at receiver, and he's also a bonehead who finally lived up to his billing despite being lazy, overweight, and having a bad pair of hands.

So despite all the media chatter about the Chiefs being deep at receiver, Wylie should eventually shine through sheer talent and perserverance.
 

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over-hyped, over-rated black sumo o-lineman Tony Ugoh announced that he was retiring from football after he left practice in Kansas City on Monday afternoon. he had signed with the Chiefs the Thursday prior. he's 28.

wildly (and widely) lauded as "the answer" to replace Tarik Glenn at left tackle when the Colts drafted him in the second round in 2007, Ugoh was most often the revolving door at left tackle that left Peyton Manning wide open for oft-repeating crushing hits.

the move means that White tackle Eric Winston is likely competing with black tackle Branden Albert for the starting job.
 

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I noticed that the fragile Kendrick Lewis suffered yet another injury of some sort, causing the Chefs to have to "juggle" their secondary. Does anybody know what the heck happened to Jon McGraw? He was quietly shown the door during the offseason, and being an "older" slow, stiff, non-swively white guy, he's probably working retail with Blair White and Jordan Shipley right about now.
 

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Football dad, no idea about Mcgraw, but I'd bet that if Blair White is out of football for good, he'll be a dentist, as I believe that was his major at Michigan State.
 

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Football dad, no idea about Mcgraw, but I'd bet that if Blair White is out of football for good, he'll be a dentist, as I believe that was his major at Michigan State.
Indeed, I heard that Blair White did just that. I just threw the "retail" thing out there as a joking reference to posts made by a certain esteemed poster here at CF.
 
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I doubt he is going to make the 53 man roster but Nate Eachus had a monster game last night in a blow out loss to Seattle. He rushed for 98 yards on only 10 carries and a td. Also it looks as if Devon Wylie has locked up both kick and punt return jobs. :arms:
 

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I doubt he is going to make the 53 man roster but Nate Eachus had a monster game last night in a blow out loss to Seattle. He rushed for 98 yards on only 10 carries and a td.

that Eachus had to play I-AA football in the Patriot League in college is yet another in the myriad examples of the Caste System. take a look at the below profile and Pro Day video. why the hell is this guy considered a "fringe" prospect? the answer, of course, is because he is a White tailback.

Never mind that he played Division I-AA college football at Colgate. Running back Nate Eachus, an undrafted rookie, ran for almost 4,500 yards in his four collegiate seasons. That total demands some respect no matter the level of competition.
The fact remains that it’s going to be difficult for Eachus to make the final 53-player roster. The Chiefs have four backs ahead of him on the depth chart, so Eachus is a much better candidate to land on the practice squad.

Read more here: Never mind that he played Division I-AA college football at Colgate. Running back Nate Eachus, an undrafted rookie, ran for almost 4,500 yards in his four collegiate seasons. That total demands some respect no matter the level of competition.
The fact remains that it’s going to be difficult for Eachus to make the final 53-player roster. The Chiefs have four backs ahead of him on the depth chart, so Eachus is a much better candidate to land on the practice squad.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/08/3750257/chiefs-profile-nate-eachus.html#storylink=cpy

[video=youtube;_N9BJU6D140]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N9BJU6D140[/video]

all he needed was an opportunity, and he does in the NFL what he's done all his life: make big plays.
a recap of his performance against the Seahawks:
It was a dismal night for the Kansas City Chiefs on Friday against the Seattle Seahawks. There's just no way around that one. Few teams have any standout players on the field when they lose by 30 points, and that's what happened on the Chiefs home field when they lost 44-14 to Russell Wilson and the rest of the upstart Seahawks.

However, at least one player made a name for himself and earned a bit of praise amidst the frustration vented after the game. Nate Eachus is trying to do everything right as an undrafted free agent out of Colgate vying for a spot on special teams and perhaps a few reps at fullback and running back. Eachus has been used at a number of spots in training camp and he's earned some praise from reporters covering the action in St. Joseph earlier in August. Now, however, he's earning praise from the people who count.

"Well, I think the starters played quite a bit tonight, and they were the ones that weren't able to get much done," said head coach Romeo Crennel after the game. "Maybe I should have played that No. 45 [Nate Eachus] more."

Late in the game, Eachus scored the Chiefs final touchdown of the night with a seven-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter. He also had 98 yards on 10 carries and easily had the strongest offensive production of the night.

It will be a night to forget for nearly all of the Kansas City Chiefs, but at least one player stood out heading into the final week of the preseason.

the original link:
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2012/8/25/3267429/nate-eachus-chiefs-seahawks
 

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I think the Chiefs could end up being what the Pats were a few years ago. They have Scott Pioli as their GM and they seem to be bring in more white skill postion players.
 

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more positive reports on Eachus' performance: http://citizensvoice.com/sports/eachus-makes-statement-1.1363935

Eachus Makes Statement
by Steve Stallone (staff writer)
Published: Aug. 26, 2012

With the first of two roster cuts coming this week, Nate Eachus was looking to make a statement Friday night when the Kansas City Chiefs hosted Seattle.

The Drums native and Hazleton Area High School graduate did that, and much more.

Getting his first extensive work at running back in the Chiefs' third preseason game, Eachus gained all of his game-high 98 yards in the fourth quarter. He capped the big night by scoring his first NFL touchdown in the Chiefs' 44-14 loss to the Seahawks.

"It felt amazing to score," Eachus said by phone from Kansas City Saturday night. "At the time I was so winded and tired it really didn't sink in, but later it did. To finally get my first NFL touchdown felt great. It was a great feeling to score."

Although he reeled off runs of 20 and 17 yards early in the fourth quarter, Eachus was just getting started. He carried eight times for 61 yards to power a 12-play, 97-yard scoring drive later in the quarter. Included in that were runs of 13, 12 and 11 yards.

"Being down so many points, we were just trying to take it one play at a time," Eachus explained, saying the drive reminded him of his college days at Colgate. "That's exactly what it felt like, the old Colgate days where I would get 25-30 carries per game."

After the drive reached Seattle's red zone, Eachus' 12-yard run up the middle set up a first-and-goal at the 7-yard line with two minutes to play.

"At the two-minute warning our goal was to punch it in," he said.

On the ensuing play, Eachus powered his way into the end zone from the 7 for the first of what he hopes will be many NFL touchdowns.

"It wasn't easy. I had to work for it," he said. "I just ran into the back of one of my O-linemen and just continued to move my feet."

The undrafted rookie entered the game fifth on the depth chart behind fellow running backs Peyton Hillis, Jamaal Charles, Shaun Draughn and sixth-round draft pick Cyrus Gray out of Texas A&M.

By the time it was over, he had given Romeo Crennel and the Kansas City coaching staff plenty to think about.

When Crennel was asked during the postgame news conference if he should have played the starters more on Friday, the first-year head coach was direct with his response.

"Well, I think the starters played quite a bit tonight, and they were the ones that weren't able to get much done," Crennel said. "Maybe I should have played that No. 45 (Eachus) more." (emphasis added by JC)
 

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I think the Chiefs could end up being what the Pats were a few years ago. They have Scott Pioli as their GM and they seem to be bring in more white skill postion players.
Unfortunately however, at this juncture, the Chiefs are an odiously black squad. Besides Cassell, they only have TWO offensive lineman and TE Kevin Boss as starting whites. Hillis is a co-starter with Charles. The defense is a coal-black affair, which makes the Chiefs one of the absolute worst teams when it comes to white starters.
 

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Unfortunately however, at this juncture, the Chiefs are an odiously black squad. Besides Cassell, they only have TWO offensive lineman and TE Kevin Boss as starting whites. Hillis is a co-starter with Charles. The defense is a coal-black affair, which makes the Chiefs one of the absolute worst teams when it comes to white starters.

Amazing to me how Crennel gets another head coaching gig after stinking **** up in Cleveland. One good year as a defensive coordinator and then you hand him the Head coaching job.
 

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Football Dad, what are your thoughts about the tight end situation. Will Boss be the clear number one tight end, or will it be more of a co-ownership deal with Moeki where both are on the field alot?
 

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Football Dad, what are your thoughts about the tight end situation. Will Boss be the clear number one tight end, or will it be more of a co-ownership deal with Moeki where both are on the field alot?
The KC tight end situation will mirror the backfield co-starter situation. Boss and Moeki will get around the same amount of snaps, many times with both on the field at the same time. Although Moeki gets the tan-everyman praise and hype, Boss is more valuable as he is a far superior blocker and has better hands. Moeki is more of a Aaron Hernandez-type TE (or at least he wants to be).
 

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Nate Eachus survived yesterday's mandatory cutdown, but Zeke Markhausen (WR), Ethan Johnson (DE), Tim Biere (TE), Shane Bannon (FB), Caleb Campbell (LB), Matt Syzmanski (K). So, of the 14 players released, 6 were of the pasty-hued variety.

On the positive front, if Eachus is released with the next mandatory cutdown this Friday, he's practically a lock for the practice squad. He may actually make the team since the Chiefs released Shane Bannon, which is somewhat a surprise.

Here's a story from the KC Star in regards to Eachus. I'm hoping that he tears it up this Thursday, as it will basically just be him and Droughns in the backfield as Hillis and Charles will not go beyond the first series or two, and Cyrus Gray is injured (as usual).

Chiefs running back Nate Eachus fought, scratched, pushed and pounded for every yard as if his job depended on it.
Eachus mashed his way for 98 yards in 10 carries in the second half of the Chiefs’ 44-14 preseason loss to Seattle Friday night, including a 7-yard touchdown run in which he dragged three Seahawks across the goal line.
The performance bought him at least another week on the Chiefs’ roster.
Eachus, an undrafted rookie free agent from Colgate, survived Sunday’s roster reduction when the Chiefs released 14 players. But Eachus and others at the bottom of the depth chart will have to sweat out another week when teams have to be down to the regular-season limit of 53 this Friday.
So Eachus knew what was at stake when he entered the Seattle game in the fourth quarter.
“You see we’re down 30-something points,â€￾ he said, “so I tried to bring a spark back to the team and to the fans and tried to run hard on every carry.â€￾
Eachus bolted for runs of 20 and 17 yards on his first two carries against a Seattle backup defense that may have played a little soft with a 44-7 lead. With blood oozing from his arm, Eachus had five runs of 11 yards or more behind second- and third-team offensive linemen looking to win roster spots, capped by the touchdown run.
“We were working hard as an offense with Brady Quinn out there and the offensive line,â€￾ Eachus said, “and we wanted to punch it in the end zone and have some pride so we could at least put double digits on the board.â€￾
The Chiefs likely will carry three true running backs on the active roster, depending on special-teams needs. Jamaal Charles and Peyton Hillis are locks, leaving Eachus, second-year back Shaun Draughn and sixth-round draft pick Cyrus Gray battling for one job.
“At the end of the day, they’re going to tear up the film and analyze it and take the best 53 players,â€￾ Eachus said. “I’m trying to show them how hard I can work. … Whether it’s catching the ball, running or blocking, I was trying to do whatever I can.â€￾
Because the Chiefs are taking it slowly with Charles, who is coming off a knee injury, and Gray has been out because of a hamstring injury, Eachus probably will share a lot of the running load with Draughn in Thursday’s preseason finale at Green Bay.
“I was impressed with the way he approached the game and he approached his opportunities,â€￾ Chiefs head coach Romeo Crennel said of Eachus’ play against Seattle. “He’s the type of guy and that type of effort that I think we all want.â€￾
That effort was exemplified by Eachus’ devastating cutback block that sprang Quinn for a 4f-yard run that picked up a first down and sustained the scoring drive.
“He’s been doing good all of camp,â€￾ Crennel said. “He just hasn’t had the opportunities in the games that some other guys have had. On the practice field up at St. Joe, he has done a decent job when he’s been in there, even though he had to play fullback some. When he went in at fullback, he did a nice job of blocking and caught your eye out of training camp.
“So, giving him the ball at his natural position (Friday) night, that excited him, and he tried to lift the team and almost averaged 10 yards a carry and scored a touchdown, so it means something to the kid.â€￾
Did it ever. Eachus, a Pennsylvania state wrestling champion in high school, had Division I offers to wrestle in college, but not to play football.
So Eachus went to Colgate, a Division I-AA program, where he rushed for 4,484 career yards and 53 touchdowns and was the 2010 Patriot League offensive player of the year. The Chiefs attended Eachus’ pro day last spring and gave him a chance.
“That touchdown meant a lot,â€￾ said Eachus, a compact 5-10, 212-pounder. “I didn’t get a lot of respect getting recruited out of high school, and it feels good to show my talents out here and show how all the hard work can pay off.â€￾
Eachus’ best shot at remaining with the Chiefs will be as one of the eight members of the practice squad that will be assembled after the final cutdown. That’s the hope of other first- and second-year players who are likely to be released at the end of the week.
Center Lucas Patterson has been through this before. Signed as an undrafted free agent out of Texas A&M last year, Patterson was converted from defensive line to offensive line and spent 2011 on the Chiefs’ practice squad.
“Last year was pretty nerve-racking,â€￾ Patterson said. “All you can do is get out there and show the coaches what you can do and hope for the best. “I keep trying to fix the little things I can do better and try to keep it going for the next week. That’s why we play in the preseason, to get tape on a resume, and hopefully someone else likes what you can do.â€￾
That’s what happened for wide receiver Jamar Newsome, who made Jacksonville’s opening-day roster last season as a rookie free agent out of Central Florida and appeared in two games, was released, re-signed to the Jaguars’ practice squad, released again, spent four weeks on Pittsburgh’s practice squad, was released by the Steelers and signed to the Chiefs practice squad last December.
“I take what I can get,â€￾ said Newsome, who has caught three passes for 27 yards in the preseason. “I just have the hunger to get better, and that’s what has kept me going. I’m comfortable with whatever happens. You push day to day, that’s all you can do, especially as a free agent.
“If worst comes to worst, I keep grinding and somebody else will give me an opportunity.â€￾
 
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