2001 Draft - A Caste Retrospective

[Leonardfan]

I've decided to go back 20 years to the 2001 draft to analyze that year's draft from a caste perspective. Looking back to the 2001 draft for the obvious reason as it was 20 years ago so I figured it would serve as a good measuring stick to be compared with the upcoming 2021 draft. The main reason I wanted to do this is because now we are seeing "pocket QBs" coming under attack.

20 Years ago it was supposed to be Michael Vick who was going to revolutionize the position - this did not happen. The league has had to adjust and make changes to the game to allow for non-white QBs to become successful. Simplistic offenses requiring black quarterbacks to make a minimal number of reads before running, copied right from the black QBs college playbooks requiring minimal time to learn and digest a new type offense. It's obvious that Vick nor any other black/non-white QB revolutionized the position but that the powers that be had to change the game to accommodate black QBs. So to sum up it was never a single individual black QB that changed the position but rather changes in rules which allowed certain schemes to be successful.

The second thing I noticed is that the number of white players drafted and their production seem to outweigh many of their black counterparts. White players 20 years ago had to be very good to dominant in order to make any in road into the league. White athletes were overall better value picks and when allowed to be productive ended up being very productive. We see the same thing today - white athletes have to be the best and after that all the rest of the spots are given to black players who range from good to very bad in terms of talent and ability.

It's obvious the same cliched stereotypes were used back then but with the internet in it's infancy the word had not gotten out yet. The 2001 offensive tackle class looks like the typical class we have seen over the past 20 years - sumos and arm length. The overall racial composition of each position group can be interchangeable with any year as well. I suppose the biggest surprise was four white DBs being selected which we will probably never witness again - including Adam Archuleta in round 1.

20 years ago it was the same story as it looks to be this upcoming draft. College football in 2000 was much whiter than it is now as illustrated by @Claimjumper and his fantastic write ups on the decline of teams starting double digit white athletes since the college previews began back around 2005/2006.

http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/whitest-college-teams-2019.37415/

246 total picks
3 Kickers and 2 Punters which I do not count.

Out of the 241 picks 53 were white athletes - 21.9%

All of my information is from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001/draft.htm

Quarterback

8/11

In 1999 I can recall the media's 1st big concerted effort to blacken up the QB position - Akili Smith, Donovan McNabb and Daunte Culpepper were all 1st round choices. By 2001 the media's great black hype Michael Vick (1st overall pick) entered the picture. Drew Brees (32nd overall pick) went onto have a very long, successful, Hall of Fame career as we all know. The next two picks were two non-white QBs - Quincy Carter (53rd overall pick) who played under Parcells in Dallas for a couple of years - he was a bad to mediocre QB who's career came to an end due to drug issues if I recall. Then it was Marques Tuiasosopo (59th overall pick) who went onto to have an unproductive career sticking around as a career 2nd/3rd stringer.

The rest of this draft is littered with decent journeyman type white QBs outside of Chris Weinke (106th overall pick) who was a 29 year old rookie and started 1 season for the Panthers. His career was pretty bad granted the Panthers were in disarray during his only year as the starting QB.

Sage Rosenfels (109th overall pick) went on to have a solid career as a spot starter/back up QB. Jesse Palmer (125th overall pick) is known more for being a media personality then his time in the league. Mike McMahon (149th overall pick) is an often overlooked/forgotten QB who was an outstanding athlete 4.55 40/37.5 inch vert - he had a spotty career but I can recall Fat Bastard giving him praise and wanting him to play well during his one year with the Eagles as a spot starter in 2005 but inconsistent play and lack off accuracy were his downfall. The last QB to get any real playing time and making an impact during his time in the league was A.J. Feely (155th overall) - I can remember him coming in for the Eagles when McNabb was out with an injury and playing well for a stretch. He parlayed that into a decent free agent contract with the Dolphins.

The last two QBs - Josh Booty (172nd overall) and Josh Heupel (177th overall) did nothing in the NFL. Heupel is now the funny looking mongoloid, cuck head coach for Tennessee.

Even 20 years ago the media were clamoring for non-white QBs with hopes that Vick, Carter and Tuiasosopo would become starters. The NFL rule changes that have given black QBs more success were not implemented yet so none of the three QBs lived up to expectations. Vick is certainly the second best QB in this class behind Brees but after that Rosenfels and Feely were both better value picks than the other two non-white QBs mentioned.

Running Back/Fullback
2/19
Heath Evans 82nd overall
George Layne 108th overall

Wide Receiver
3/34
Vinny Sutherland 136th overall
Eddie Berlin 159th overall
Kevin Kasper 190th overall

Tight End
7/15
Todd Heap 31st overall
Sean Brewer 66th overall
Shad Meier 90th overall
Bill Baber 141st overall
Dan O'Leary 195th overall
Eric Johnson 224th overall
Mike Roberg 227th overall

Tackle
7/22
Jeff Backus 18th overall
Matt Light 48th overall
Ryan Diem 118th overall
Alex Sulfsted 176th overall
Mitch White 185th overall
Adam Haayer 199th overall
Brian Crawford 225th overall

Guard
6/11
Steve Hutchinson 17th overall
Bill Ferrario 105th overall
Ben Hamilton 113th overall
Chad Ward 170th overall
Paul Zukauskas 203rd overall
Rick DeMulling 220th overall

Center
4/8
Dominic Raiola 50th overall
Casey Rabach 92nd overall
Matt Lehr 137th overall
Russ Hochstein 151st overall

Defensive Back
4/45
Adam Archuleta 20th overall
John Howell 117th overall
Jason Doering 193rd overall
Than Merrill 223rd overall

Defensive End
3/21
Justin Smith 4th overall
Kyle Vanden Bosch 34th overall
Aaron Schobel 46ther overall

Defensive Tackle
3/25
Ross Kolodziej 230th overall
Kris Kocurek 237th overall
Randy Chevrier 241st overall (listed as DT - drafted to be long snapper)

Linebacker
6/30
Dan Morgan 11th overall
Matt Stewart 102nd overall
Monty Beisel 107th overall
Brandon Spoon 110th overall
Rick Crowell 188th overall
Alex Lincoln 209th overall

 

[Bucky]

Appreciate the time and effort put into this. I find it interesting that the Sumo push was in full swing by 01.

 

[Leonardfan]

Appreciate the time and effort put into this. I find it interesting that the Sumo push was in full swing by 01.

Pretty sure by the early 90s the sumo push was fully underway. I think it was either @Don Wassall or @Truthteller who pointed to either the 1990 or 1991 draft as the draft that opened up the caste flood gates. I had originally planned to go back for every draft from 2001-2020 and run the numbers but felt it was a little too ambitious of a project.

 

[Don Wassall]

LF, thanks for using your non-stop motor and lunch pail work ethic on this

Pretty lousy draft looking back on it. I remember being happy Archuleta went in the first round and he went on to have a pretty good career. The three defensive ends taken all had excellent NFL careers, especially Justin Smith. Steve Hutchinson was one of the very best guards ever. Dan Morgan was a potentially great linebacker but his career was reminiscent of Sean Lee's, injured way too often.

Heath Evans could have and should have been a three-down starting running back as he could run, catch and block but that was never gonna happen, especially when he was drafted by Mike Holmgren's team. Belichick did let him run some later in his career and he was more than up to the task.

Todd Heap was easily the best of the nondescript group of tight ends drafted. As for the receivers, Kevin Kasper was royally screwed over as he was lightning quick and should have been a starter but never was. He was with 6 NFL teams over 5 seasons (AZ twice), with just 24 career receptions, a great example of how White receivers are usually treated. Vinny Sutherland was similarly very fast though on the small side and he was treated even worse -- two seasons, three teams, one career catch. If memory serves he had some off-field troubles, which is usually the kiss of death for White players.

It was a surprise when Eddie Berlin was drafted, but that was during Jeff Fisher's brief but memorable relatively White friendly period on both offense and defense. Berlin played five seasons with just 26 total catches, but 20 of them were in 2004, the year Drew Bennett absolutely dominated the AFC in receiving after Billy Volek replaced the injured Steve McNair. Berlin and Bennett at times were both on the field together at receiver, a true rarity over the past 45 years except for the Patriots for a few years. Of course, Fisher "saw the light" beginning the next year and for the rest of his coaching career.

 

[Leonardfan]

LF, thanks for using your non-stop motor and lunch pail work ethic on this

Pretty lousy draft looking back on it. I remember being happy Archuleta went in the first round and he went on to have a pretty good career. The three defensive ends taken all had excellent NFL careers, especially Justin Smith. Steve Hutchinson was one of the very best guards ever. Dan Morgan was a potentially great linebacker but his career was reminiscent of Sean Lee's, injured way too often.

Heath Evans could have and should have been a three-down starting running back as he could run, catch and block but that was never gonna happen, especially when he was drafted by Mike Holmgren's team. Belichick did let him run some later in his career and he was more than up to the task.

Todd Heap was easily the best of the nondescript group of tight ends drafted. As for the receivers, Kevin Kasper was royally screwed over as he was lightning quick and should have been a starter but never was. He was with 6 NFL teams over 5 seasons (AZ twice), with just 24 career receptions, a great example of how White receivers are usually treated. Vinny Sutherland was similarly very fast though on the small side and he was treated even worse -- two seasons, three teams, one career catch. If memory serves he had some off-field troubles, which is usually the kiss of death for White players.

It was a surprise when Eddie Berlin was drafted, but that was during Jeff Fisher's brief but memorable relatively White friendly period on both offense and defense. Berlin played five seasons with just 26 total catches, but 20 of them were in 2004, the year Drew Bennett absolutely dominated the AFC in receiving after Billy Volek replaced the injured Steve McNair. Berlin and Bennett at times were both on the field together at receiver, a true rarity over the past 45 years except for the Patriots for a few years. Of course, Fisher "saw the light" beginning the next year and for the rest of his coaching career.

The caste system's consistency over a 20 year span is pretty impressive. I do not think we have seen four white DBs selected in the same draft since 2001. The white D-linemen selected were all great players and I would argue Justin Smith should be a borderline HoF candidate especially when compared to Richard Seymour who was picked right after him. Schobel was a damned good pass rusher for the 2000s Bills - he holds up well against any other DEs drafted in 2001 and KVB was plagued by injuries early on before becoming an excellent edge defender.

It's certainly more than a coincidence that 20 years ago we are seeing the same percentage of white players drafted as we are seeing now. That 20% seems to be an unspoken rule within the league. Glad that we here at CF were able to identify it as the line in the sand.

 

[Leonardfan]

For fun I've decided to look back 10 years to the 2011 draft. Some interesting parallels to the 2001 draft - another quarterback that will "revolutionize the game" in Scam. A dominant white defensive player in JJ Watt.

254 total picks
1 Kicker and 1 punter were selected which I do not count
Out of the 252 picks 59 white athletes selected.

A modest increase to 23.4% for 2011. I should of bit my tongue -I did not realize 4 white DBs were drafted in 2011. Overall it's a pretty close match to the 2001 draft.

Quarterbacks - 9/12
Jake Locker 8th overall
Blaine Gabbert 11th overall
Christian Ponder 12th overall
Andy Dalton 35th overall
Ryan Mallett 74th overall
Ricky Stanzi 135th overall
T.J. Yates - 152nd overall
Nathan Enderle 160th overall
Greg McElroy 208th overall

RB/FB - 5/31
Owen Marecic 124th overall
Anthony Sherman 136th overall
Bruce Miller 211th overall
Shaun Chapas 220th overall
Shane Bannon 223rd overall

Wide Reciever - 3/28
Kris Durham 107th overall
Ryan Whalen 167th overall
Scotty McKnight 227th overall

Tight End 6/12
Kyle Rudolph 43rd overall
Rob Housler 69th overall
Jordan Cameron 102nd overall
Luke Stocker 104th overall
Lee Smith 159th overall
Ryan Taylor 218th overall


Offensive Tackle - 5/22
Nate Solder 17th overall
Anthony Castonzo 22nd overall
Gabe Carimi 29th overall
Mike Person 239th overall
Lee Ziemba 244th overall

Offensive Guard 9/13
Danny Watkins 23rd overall
John Moffitt 75th overall
Clint Boling 101st overall
David Arkin 110th overall
Julian Vandervelde 161st overall
Daniel Kilgore 163rd overall
Caleb Schlauderaff 179th overall
Stephen Schilling 201st overall
Andrew Jackson 210th overall

Center - 4/6
Stefen Wisniewski 48th overall
Brandon Fusco 172nd overall
Jason Kelce 191st overall
Bill Nagy 252nd overall

Defensive End 5/23
JJ Watt 11th overall
Ryan Kerrigan 16th overall
Brooks Reed 42nd overall
Karl Klug 142nd overall
Ricky Elmore 197th overall

Defensive Tackle 2/18
Zach Clayton 212th overall
Chris Neild 253rd overall

Linebacker 7/33
Colin McCarthy 109th overall
Casey Matthews 116th overall
Gabe Miller 140th overall
Chris White 169th overall
Mike Mohamed 189th overall
Ross Homan 200th overall
Andrew Gachkar 234th overall

Safety
Chris Conte 93rd overall
Chris Prosinkski 121st overall
Colin Jones 190th overall
Tyler Sash 198th overall

 

[Don Wassall]

If you're going to do more of them, it might be better to start a separate thread for each year. Who knows, that way it might even motivate some of the way-too-many occasional posters we have here to make some contributions.

Looking at the '11 draft, what strikes me is how few of the White players became stars. Of course, many times White players don't get much of an opportunity, or when they do they have to excel instantly.

Defensive end again was a strong position other than Elmore and Klug was used mostly at tackle but never played as much as he should have. Even the quarterback group for this year didn't turn out well. Jake Locker had a lot of potential as a throwing and running threat and might have turned into a Josh Allen type but he wasn't developed properly and lost interest in the sport (there may have been other factors such as feeling mistreated). Dalton's had a good career but the rest were forgettable, though Gabbert never had a chance the way he was used and abused by a terrible Jax team with a pathetic o-line.

 

[Bucky]

4 Safeties definitely isn't happening this season.. Bummer.

Casey Matthews was chased out of Philly. Very hostile town for our guys.

 

[Don Wassall]

4 Safeties definitely isn't happening this season.. Bummer.

Casey Matthews was chased out of Philly. Very hostile town for our guys.

He was subjected to unbelievable amounts of hate. Even being Clay's brother they weren't gonna give him a chance.

 

[Bucky]

He was subjected to unbelievable amounts of hate. Even being Clay's brother they weren't gonna give him a chance.

Seeing his name jogged my memory of that. He wasn't ever able to recover from it elsewhere. Philly just ran Nathan Gerry out of town so hopefully he fares better than Matthews in a new City.

 

[Don Wassall]

6' 5" WR Kris Durham out of Georgia ran a 4.43 at the Combine and yet there was still a negative reaction when Seattle took him even though he lasted to the 4th round. Durham then went the typical route of a White receiver, 4 seasons while on 3 different teams and then out of the league. He caught 38 of his 55 career passes with Detroit in '13.

 

[Don Wassall]

4 Safeties definitely isn't happening this season.. Bummer.

Conte, Prosinski and Jones from the '11 draft class all treated poorly by the league. Conte of course may be the most hated White safety of them all though just about all White safeties are hated unless they're instant stars. Jones, who ran a 4.34 40 at the Combine, is still around as a perpetual WSTD. Clearly he must be too dumb to pick up the nuances of safety to play in the NFL. (That last sentence is sarcasm for any humor-challenged readers.)

 

[Leonardfan]

If you're going to do more of them, it might be better to start a separate thread for each year. Who knows, that way it might even motivate some of the way-too-many occasional posters we have here to make some contributions.

Looking at the '11 draft, what strikes me is how few of the White players became stars. Of course, many times White players don't get much of an opportunity, or when they do they have to excel instantly.

Defensive end again was a strong position other than Elmore and Klug was used mostly at tackle but never played as much as he should have. Even the quarterback group for this year didn't turn out well. Jake Locker had a lot of potential as a throwing and running threat and might have turned into a Josh Allen type but he wasn't developed properly and lost interest in the sport (there may have been other factors such as feeling mistreated). Dalton's had a good career but the rest were forgettable, though Gabbert never had a chance the way he was used and abused by a terrible Jax team with a pathetic o-line.

I just wanted to look back 10 years . No plans to do anymore of these. We can certainly run these two drafts against the 2021 draft just to illustrate the consistency of the caste system. I think we all know what to expect this week. At least now if any lurkers visit the site we have a quick reference to illustrate how the caste system keeps out as many white players as possible. I know pretty much every year I am able to identify 70+ white draft eligible athletes - guys that could of had a legitimate shot at making it in the league. For arguments sake - this year there are 259 draft picks - even if 70 white athletes were to get drafted it would amount to 27% of the total draft class - a very modest increase under best case circumstances.

Over the past five years Running Back has averaged 21.8 players drafted, WR has averaged 32.2 players and Defensive backs (I am combining CB 30.8 and S 20.2) 51 players. Those three positions on average comprise 105 draft picks and each of those positions have been gifted to blacks by the caste masters.

 

[Phall]

Very cool thread, thanks for doing the leg work. I would not have guessed the proportion of white OTs being so low. Amazing consistency over the decades.

 

[Leonardfan]

Very cool thread, thanks for doing the leg work. I would not have guessed the proportion of white OTs being so low. Amazing consistency over the decades.

Thanks, it's an exercise I felt that held at least some merit to illustrate the lack of deviation in the number of white athletes drafted and the positions at which they were drafted. When doing the 2011 write-up I remember it being a debate on this site regarding Colin Kapernick - some considered him white...made me laugh to myself that folks on here even tried to make that connection a decade ago.

 

[Don Wassall]

Pretty sure by the early 90s the sumo push was fully underway. I think it was either @[B]Don Wassall[/B] or @Truthteller who pointed to either the 1990 or 1991 draft as the draft that opened up the caste flood gates. I had originally planned to go back for every draft from 2001-2020 and run the numbers but felt it was a little too ambitious of a project.

It was Truthteller who compared the first rounds of the '89 and '90 drafts and it was a real eye-opener, to the point I've never forgotten it and it's worth keeping in mind as the 1990 draft did indeed set the hard-boiled template for everything that's come since.

Just quickly reviewed those two drafts now, and going by memory and knowledge (I may have a player or two wrong but I know I'm close if not one hundred percent accurate), in '89 twelve of the 28 first round selections were White -- Troy Aikman, selected first overall, four tackles (Tony Mandarich, Andy Heck, David Williams, Tom Ricketts), three DEs (Burt Grossman, Trace Armstrong, Bill Hawkins), two guards (Joe Wolf, Brian Williams), and two LBs (Jeff Lageman and Keith DeLong).

In 1990, QB Jeff George was the first overall pick, but then tackle Bern Brostek was the only other White player taken in the first round, going 23rd. There was only 25 picks in the first round that year even though there were 28 teams. The second round was almost as bad, with just 4 of the 28 picks being Whites.

That's a helluva change in one year, and every NFL draft since has been closer to the '90 draft than the '89 one, but White WRs, RBs, CBs and safeties had disappeared from the first round well before 1989 with very rare exceptions. As those of us who followed the NFL in those days have written, the low point of the endless Caste years was the early to mid 1990s as far as White WRs and defensive stars, but really while there's been occasional upticks at positions like receiver and linebacker it seems to always be quickly swatted down in order to keep within the very narrow White quotas allowed. The offensive line is definitely blacker than it was 20 years ago, as is quarterback. Tight end is the only bright spot, but I still consider quarterback an overall positive as there have been so many Great Black Hopes groomed and promoted and highly drafted that it's quite impressive that over two-thirds of the starters are still White. The endless media obsession with Black quarterbacks is because the system (not just the Caste System but "The System") considers quarterback a momentous battle to be won at all costs no matter how long it takes in its endless war against White masculinity and athleticism.

 

[Leonardfan]

It was Truthteller who compared the first rounds of the '89 and '90 drafts and it was a real eye-opener, to the point I've never forgotten it and it's worth keeping in mind as the 1990 draft did indeed set the hard-boiled template for everything that's come since.

Just reviewed those two drafts now, and going by memory and knowledge (I may have a player or two wrong but I know I'm close if not one hundred percent accurate), in '89 twelve of the 28 first round selections were White -- Troy Aikman, selected first overall, four tackles (Tony Mandarich, Andy Heck, David Williams, Tom Ricketts), three DEs (Burt Grossman, Trace Armstrong, Bill Hawkins), two guards (Joe Wolf, Brian Williams), and two LBs (Jeff Lageman and Keith DeLong).

In 1990, QB Jeff George was the first overall pick, but then tackle Bern Brostek was the only other White player taken in the first round, going 23rd. There was only 25 picks in the first round that year even though there were 28 teams. The second round was almost as bad, with just 3 of the 28 picks being Whites.

That's a helluva change in one year, and every NFL draft since has been a lot closer to the '90 draft than the '89 one, but White WRs, RBs, CBs and safeties had disappeared from the first round well before 1989 with very rare exceptions. As those of us who followed the NFL in those days have written many times, the low point of the endless Caste years was the early to mid 1990s as far as White WRs and defensive stars, but really while there's been occasional upticks at positions like receiver and linebacker it seems to always be quickly swatted down in order to keep within the very narrow White quotas allowed. The offensive line is definitely blacker than it was 20 years ago, as is quarterback. Tight end is the only bright spot, but I still consider quarterback an overall positive as there have been so many Great Black Hopes groomed and promoted and highly drafted that it's quite impressive that over two-thirds of the starters are still White. The endless media obsession with Black quarterbacks is because the system (not just the Caste System but "The System") considers quarterback a momentous battle to be won at all costs in its endless war against White masculinity and athleticism.

Thanks for jarring my memory on that Don! The NFL changed commissioners as well during that time - Rozelle retired and was replaced by Tagliabue. I am sure the drop off still would of occurred but it's interesting to ponder whether or not the new commissioner had anything to do with it. The NBA has went from bad (under David Stern) to worse (under Adam Silver) granted the circumstances and the agenda being pushed by today's NBA is very different from the caste system and political/social climate in the late 80s.

 

[Don Wassall]

It's interesting too, looking back at the '89 and '90 drafts how just one quarterback was taken in the first round both years, albeit first overall. Compare that to the frenzy over them this year, with the first three picks likely to be QBs, and maybe five going very early in the first round. I attribute that mostly to the lack of "sure things" out there at other positions. Half if not three-fourths or more of the sumos selected will bomb, as will a good portion of the receivers. And there's only three running backs being mentioned as potential three-down backs, maybe four even though two of them are from North Carolina. That's pathetic! Every team has to recruit and play only black running backs even though only a miniscule number of them turn out to have NFL potential. It's the deliberate and "systemic" disenfranchising of all the many non-black running backs who shine in high school each year and it holds true to varying degrees for every other position.

The major colleges recruit almost solely from a limited pool of players, a pool that a very creditable argument can be made is not only over-rated but is noticeably shrinking over time, but as with everything else in this oligarchy, the agenda and narrative is what counts and it will continue to be foisted on the country. . . until it isn't, either stopped by an opposing force or by collapsing due to no longer being believed by almost anyone. The Oscars were watched the other night by less than 10 million people out of a population of over 330 million, a far, far smaller proportion of the masses than used to care about Hollywood. It's an increasingly small but still very powerful circle jerk preaching to each other while pretending most people care about what they say or think.

 

[white is right]

It's interesting too, looking back at the '89 and '90 drafts how just one quarterback was taken in the first round both years, albeit first overall. Compare that to the frenzy over them this year, with the first three picks likely to be QBs, and maybe five going very early in the first round. I attribute that mostly to the lack of "sure things" out there at other positions. Half if not three-fourths or more of the sumos selected will bomb, as will a good portion of the receivers. And there's only three running backs being mentioned as potential three-down backs, maybe four even though two of them are from North Carolina. That's pathetic! Every team has to recruit and play only black running backs even though only a miniscule number of them turn out to have NFL potential. It's the deliberate and "systemic" disenfranchising of all the many non-black running backs who shine in high school each year and it holds true to varying degrees for every other position.

The major colleges recruit almost solely from a limited pool of players, a pool that a very creditable argument can be made is not only over-rated but is noticeably shrinking over time, but as with everything else in this oligarchy, the agenda and narrative is what counts and it will continue to be foisted on the country. . . until it isn't, either stopped by an opposing force or by collapsing due to no longer being believed by almost anyone. The Oscars were watched the other night by less than 10 million people out of a population of over 330 million, a far, far smaller proportion of the masses than used to care about Hollywood. It's an increasingly small but still very powerful circle jerk preaching to each other while pretending most people care about what they say or think.

I think if American football was truly a global game and countries with a decent population took up the game seriously American prospects would get exposed. Countries like Germany have produced quite a few players considering the game is way, way down the list of sports and their "pro" league is akin to the Longest Yard more than even the Arena League(the equivalent of A ball).

When boxing became a truly global sport American prospects were exposed as limited especially in the glamor heavyweight division.

 

[Leonardfan]

I think if American football was truly a global game and countries with a decent population took up the game seriously American prospects would get exposed. Countries like Germany have produced quite a few players considering the game is way, way down the list of sports and their "pro" league is akin to the Longest Yard more than even the Arena League(the equivalent of A ball).

When boxing became a truly global sport American prospects were exposed as limited especially in the glamor heavyweight division.

Just keep an eye on all the african surnames in the upcoming draft. Also, remember that ethnic Europeans are looked on in just about the same light as their White counterparts who are US Citizens. The international pool of players would most certainly consist of those from the floods of sub-saharan africans who have been invading Europe since Obama/Clinton destroyed Libya and the de facto border patrol for Europe - the Gadaffi regime. It irks me to no end to see a black referred to as British, French, German etc. It's another tool used to push the "diversity" narrative while replacing ethnic Europeans with non-whites who have no ethnic or historical connection to their respective country.

 

[white is right]

Just keep an eye on all the african surnames in the upcoming draft. Also, remember that ethnic Europeans are looked on in just about the same light as their White counterparts who are US Citizens. The international pool of players would most certainly consist of those from the floods of sub-saharan africans who have been invading Europe since Obama/Clinton destroyed Libya and the de facto border patrol for Europe - the Gadaffi regime. It irks me to no end to see a black referred to as British, French, German etc. It's another tool used to push the "diversity" narrative while replacing ethnic Europeans with non-whites who have no ethnic or historical connection to their respective country.

You have a point on the international raw prospects, it seems like close to half are full blooded Africans or near full blooded Anglo Caribbeans. I don't think Africans/Blacks are much above 1 percent of the population of these countries.

I was putting out a scenario where American football became as popular as baseball in Canada(a distant second place to hockey). There most prospects would be White, but they still might be pigeon holed to play "appropriate" positions when they hit the US shores ie big tailbacks playing fullback and corners playing safety.

 

[Leonardfan]

I have been thinking it would be a good idea to go back through the past 23 years of NFL drafts since 2000 to get the exact count of White athletes drafted each year and track the percentage for reference. I was wondering if anyone wanted to help me with this undertaking. I have already done the 2000 draft along with the 2011 and 2001 drafts which are posted above. Each year could be it's write up per Don's recommendation as well.

Is anyone else interested in helping me out? With all the talk of collusion again Lamar Jackson I feel that providing this consistent number hovering around 20% would be a solid arguing point in the anti-White bias that runs rampant in the NFL.

 

[Don Wassall]

I think it's a good idea and it will be pinned if it's put together well.

We've had a draft thread every year since 2005, all of them lengthy and the final results by percentage should be listed on each and if not there should at least be enough info to make a tally easier.

Anyone familiar with the basic law of averages should be able to easily comprehend how fake and contrived the NFL's demographics are. For example, if you flip a coin thousands of times you will end up with very close to half heads and half tails. But within smaller samples all kinds of different results will regularly occur. There will be stretches with ten straight heads, ten consecutive tails, eight heads and two tails, and so on.

If college football and the NFL were anything remotely resembling a "meritocracy" and recruiting and drafting was done on close to a color-blind level playing field, every draft would have some "anomolies," both at various positions and overall. But that's never the case with NFL drafts. The preferred racial breakdown at each position never varies except for slight occasional "outliers" that never change the fundamental, ever-repeating pattern. The only exception is that some positions very slowly but irrevocably become blacker over time, while tight end has become somewhat whiter over time. Other than that, anyone who follows the league can predict with "uncanny" accuracy ahead of time how the draft will go racially, positionally, and even each round -- few Whites in the all-important early rounds, a few more in the later rounds.

We have so much information and evidence here but it's not organized and preserved well, so I'm all for this idea and encourage others to help Leonardfan, who too often does a lot of the heavy lifting by himself.

 

[Warhawk_46]

If you're going to do more of them, it might be better to start a separate thread for each year. Who knows, that way it might even motivate some of the way-too-many occasional posters we have here to make some contributions.

Looking at the '11 draft, what strikes me is how few of the White players became stars. Of course, many times White players don't get much of an opportunity, or when they do they have to excel instantly.

Defensive end again was a strong position other than Elmore and Klug was used mostly at tackle but never played as much as he should have. Even the quarterback group for this year didn't turn out well. Jake Locker had a lot of potential as a throwing and running threat and might have turned into a Josh Allen type but he wasn't developed properly and lost interest in the sport (there may have been other factors such as feeling mistreated). Dalton's had a good career but the rest were forgettable, though Gabbert never had a chance the way he was used and abused by a terrible Jax team with a pathetic o-line.

Karl Klug was very productive when he was allowed to see the field. He was an athlete similar to Justin Zimmer (also curiously very productive in the brief times he is allowed to see the field while the inferior albeit darker athletes get a few plays off).

Klug was from Wisconsin. Had a lot of ability.

 

[Bucky]

Klug was definitely screwed over, racial apprenticeship and all.