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Both have better chins than everybody thought. Looks like Vlad has slowed a bit, and got this one on his boxing skill. Haye was wise to not take the fight two or three years ago, I think Vlad would have KO'd him back then. I don't know where he goes from here, but if he slows much more it might...

Okay, Haye starting his BS already. Late leaving his dressing room for some reason.

Crap. Raining there, and the canvas might be wet.

I think Hayes best chance is to bum rush Vlad and land a finisher right away, and if that doesn't work turn the fight into something of a farce. Run run run, make faces, talk talk talk as he runs. Just be obnoxious and rattle Vlad. It's worked outside of the ring, why not inside the ring. Throw...

Well, just for the record, Vlad should swat this metrosexual mulatto around the ring for as long as it lasts. The fight could set a record for quickest retired on stool stoppage. But the Raskins of the world will still find faults that they never find in truly boring fighters like Hopkins and...

Isn't there something in the posting guidelines about multiple identities?

A Vlad loss would bum me out big time. It would be the Hindenberg crashing into the Titanic for White Boxing. It would set White Boxing back much worse than, say Holmes/Cooney or Norton/Bobick did. It would totally invalidate Vlad's dominant run as champion. I just want Vlad to get it over...

Funny funny video. The beginning was perfect. Puts things in perspective, a perspective that a lot of people have lost. I don't know why so many people are playing along with this Haye farce. Partly because Haye looks the part I suppose. When he loses people will be saying we knew it all along...

Haye has done a great job of hyping this fight. He's really good at the mind games too. If he quits boxing after Vlad knocks him out I can see him going into management and eventually becoming a pain in the ass to Adam Booth.

I check out ESB once in a while. Does anyone else who goes there get that annoying "you just won a computer" pop-up on ESB?

Every time I see this thread with a lot of posts this far from the fight, I think Haye has pulled out of the fight. Is he really going to go through with it and get into the same ring with Vladimer Klitchko? He's really going to do it?

Whatever. Hey, I watched the Klitchko-Haye "faceoff" and Max the Shadchan. Man, talk about a bad first date...Edited by: The Hock

Litzau said for about five years he mostly partied between fights, but now he's dedicated. Problem is he'll never get those five years back, when he could have been honing his skills. You get what you pay for, and Jason didn't pay his dues, so he what he got was knocked out. I'm not crushed...

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I wasn't impressed with Litzau's win over Caballero. He looked careless and sloppy much of the time, not a good thing with Jason's so-so chin. So a fight like this boner against Brohner was going to happen sooner or later, and it happened sooner. Some newer poster here tried to call Litzau a...

Happy for Dirk, and Kidd, finally getting rings. But really, must the NBA season go almost to the middle of June? I can remember watching the Celtics beating the Lakers in the eighties, and it seeming rather strange that I was still watching basketball in the middle of May. I guess the longer...

Yeah, it looks like a lot of saps are putting their money where Haye's mouth is. If the odds stay at two to one I might have to put some on Vlad, and I've never bet on a fight in my life. A Vlad loss would be utter disaster for White Boxing at this point. When Vlad started on his current win...

Good points Thrashen. Case in point, Reed's article. Nowhere in the article did he state that it has been WHITE men who have invented all the goodies that have made women's (and minorities) lives much easier. Fred's racial awareness seems to wax and wane. Last I heard he had a Mexican girlfriend...

Ward and Froch are worthy finalists. Both are dedicated, tough, and know what the want to do in the ring. I always mention the soft spot on Ward's chin, but no one has found lately. Maybe Froch can do it.

Yeah, Tom Iron, it will probably come down to when we have no choice. We'll have to start defending ourselves sooner or later. Right now it seems like we've become the kid on the playground who gets bullied by everyone. I don't think we'll always be so easy to push around.

I think Tyson made enough of a name for himself (with some help) that he'll always be able to maintain a cash flow with some cheesy gig somewhere in the world. Wrestling, celebrity hot dog eating contest, whatever. Somebody willing to pay for his name tacked onto an event. By the time his name...

I was having lunch at work a while back with three other people, two women and a man, all of us white and out of earshot of anyone. Somehow the subject turned to the racial situation, and I was surprised at the anger and resentment over how badly things are going for whites the other three were...

The story goes that Pia Zadora, notorious bad actress, once played Anne Frank role in a theatre production. Her performance was so painfully bad that when the Nazis came snooping around the audience yelled "She's upstairs!" Edited by: The Hock

Rebaljo, I just always gotta read your posts... When I lived in Salt Lake the Tongans were well known for being violent at the drop of a hat. Many of them even admitted it was part of their culture. My brother was driving down 9th West (a very busy street) one day and a group of them...

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