Women in combat and gays in Inaugural address

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  1. jaxvid

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    Leon Panetta, in one of his last acts as President Obama's defense secretary, is preparing to announce the policy change, which would open hundreds of thousands of front-line positions and potentially elite commando jobs after more than a decade at war, the Pentagon confirmed Wednesday.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/23/panetta-opens-combat-roles-to-women/#ixzz2IrM6k8Zg

    from Obama's Inaugural address

    "It is now our generation’s task to carry on what those pioneers began. For our journey is not complete until our wives, our mothers, and daughters can earn a living equal to their efforts. Our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law -- for if we are truly created equal, then surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well."

    "We, the people, declare today that the most evident of truths -- that all of us are created equal -- is the star that guides us still; just as it guided our forebears through Seneca Falls, and Selma, and Stonewall..." he said.
     
  2. Old Scratch

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    Well that settles it. We are all created equal and it is the MOST self evident of truths. Why even have standards and requirements at all? If a fat video game nerd wants to be an Army Ranger who are we to say no? It's not fair that they should have to run a lot either. Skip boot camp and ship them straight to a Ranger battalion.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    The local station I was watching the "news" on yesterday showed only that portion of Obama's speech where he mentioned the homosexuals. Gee, I wonder why.

    As far as women in combat, hardly a peep of protest so far. Remember when that was another of the "lines in the sand" drawn by "conservatives" and Republicans? Of course they eventually caved, as they always do. They're already preparing to go along with Obama's amnesty for the illegals, to be unveiled soon, in order to try to add hispanics to the Republican base lol. Eventually they'll go along with gun confiscation when they think the time is right.
     
  4. foobar75

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    This is actually good news. First of all, why should young White men be the only ones fighting and dying in zionist wars in faraway places? This is where equality will come in handy.

    Secondly, when the SHTF, and the army is turned loose on the citizenry, I'd much rather see it made up of women and homosexuals.
     
  5. The Hock

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    I'm sure a lot of commanders are thrilled at this news. Leading troops in combat is difficult and complicated enough already, so working Heather and this will just add to the challenge. But heck, why not give 'em a chance. And if they're so equal, why don't they create some all women combat brigades? Just to prove that men aren't needed to pick up any slack.


    But they'll probably just do the safe thing and mix the women in with the men. Should work. I mean, you could mix in some women into, say, the North Carolina basketball team with no drop-off, right?

    And it will give the young fellers a chance to get laid when they're out in the field that I never had when I was in. Yeah, all kinds of opportunities are opening up with this.

    And the Chinese are laughing in their tea cups.
     
  6. Arend

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    Why is that Good news? It will not change the fact that young white men will die in useless wars; the only “progressâ€￾ that has been made is that in the future also a few young white women will not return home.
    I don’t think that something like will ever happen. They only want it now because they can’t have it. Womyn today are too much occupied with comfortable, white-collar jobs or getting useless degrees in Queer-Feminist-Studies or Womyns Studies.

    Anyhow, it would be nice to know if anyone here had actually experiences with women in the military? Cause my were very limited to say the least.
     
  7. Tom Iron

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    Gentlemen, This stupidity about women isn't what it seems. The armed forces understands very well that everything's about technology today. Even our "wars." We've been moving away from "infantry" for many years now. Even in Afghanistan it's almost impossible for the Taliban to mass a force to fight our troops because of all our gear. We know where they are and can kill them easily if they try to attack our positions. Anymore, the use of ground troops will be extremely limited. If they want to use troops for something, they'll use special ops troops or outsource it to one of the private defense contractors. We've got a whole new world now. Nothing is as it seems to the naked eye.

    I read a book by a NVA army surgeon who said when he went down the Ho Chi Minh trail after seeing thedevastation we'd wroecked that if we (the Americans) wanted to win the war tomorrow morning, they would. He said that after viewing what we'd done just on the trail. Imagine if we'd ever carpet bombed Hanoi, and the other North Vietnamese cities. War with us is all about contracts and moving inventory. Not about "winning or losing."

    Tom Iron...
     
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    Very astute point, Tom Iron. Most posters here at CF know that the wars waged in the last 60 years, not one of them is about "winning". It's just a cash cow for the power brokers and the MIC. The soldiers are little more than pawns. There is not a single conflict, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc., that could not have been won very quickly in a real war. Even the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was of this type for the USSR, as they needed the "war support" from their population to prop up the failed economy.
     
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    Where's the thumbs up smiley? Yeah, bring on those fairies and lesbians! The USSA, thanks to it having milked dry what's left of the American working class, spends more money on "defense" [sic] than the rest of the world combined, and consequently they are very adept at mass murdering defenseless poor people on the far corners of the earth from 30,000 feet, but on the ground, aside from their highly trained elites, I'd pick the soldiers of Bongo Bongo to kick ass in equal combat.

    The Monty Pythons saw it coming:

    Monty Python "Military Fairy" -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI
     
  10. Liverlips

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    "Anyhow, it would be nice to know if anyone here had actually experiences with women in the military? Cause my were very limited to say the least."

    I was in Desert Storm (in a non combat unit). We had lots of women. I think every single one of them (including the married ones) was having sex with guys. And there were two pregnancies, meaning they got shipped back to the U.S.

    My brother is in the Navy. He tells me some tales from sea duty that are not suitable for a family website like CF!

    So, is having women in combat roles a bad idea? Yes.

    But I don't think of this is my country anymore so I don't really care what they do.
     
  11. The Hock

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    When this first broke I was hearing "no change in standards." Now I'm hearing "neutrual standards." We know what that means.

    But hey, it works in the movies, so it should be no problem.

    http://youtu.be/49OZ0M_0fhg
     
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    well ,know who is going to get screwed first on the frontline then.

    as for more of this liberal muck , it has simply come down to who can out liberal the next person.
    no i am more liberal than you ,etc .
    with absolute no foresight and restraint till place is ****ed and meaningless .
    all hail this demasculated pussy politics .
     
  13. Tom Iron

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    Just to make one last point here. We've seen this type of thing dozens of times in the last thirty years or so (firefighter, policemen, Ironworker, etc.). There's nothing new here. Women being included in "combat" roles is just the latest concept of mind control. Every lucid person understands all physical fitness standards will be "relaxed" in order to create the illusion women can do what they obviouslt can't do. All the while, the propaganda will be blared endlessly that they're qualified even as people see with their naked eye they can't do what it's aledged they can do. Of course, the careerist military "leadership" will swear up and down the women are even better than the men, etc., etc., etc.

    Tom Iron...
     
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    Not even Caste-coach-turned-Caste-announcer Lou Holtz liked what he saw and heard:

    Lou Holtz after Obama’s inauguration: ‘I’m done, finished, the country’s over with, we’re not doing this again!’

    I don't know exactly what he meant by "we're not doing this again!'". I wonder if BSPN will take the "appropriate" actions with him since he dared to exercise his first amendment right of free speech against State-sponsored Cultural Marxist totalitarianism.

    Perhaps he and his son "Skip" should take at least part of the blame by feeding the consciousness of DWF Nation with almost pure coal football teams and not expecting this to transfer over into other areas of society, like politics?

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/25/l...countrys-over-with-were-not-doing-this-again/
     
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    Excellent points Tom Iron. The burden created by women's lack of physical strength will fall on the men, especially the white men. Military duty often involves physical labor. It isn't all marching around and going to the firing range. I can remember at company formation the First Seargent telling the platoon sergeants they needed X number of men from each platoon for some work detail (fondly known as sh!t details). Anything from hauling garbage cans to moving ammo around out at the ammo storage to whatever. Real pain-in-the-ass heavy work sometimes. Not to mention a lot of mechanical work (something we know women excell at) on vehicles, tanks, personel carriers, etc. The overall effect of having much weaker troops will be a loss in combat readiness and effectiveness.

    One time we crossed paths with a truck convoy. They were stopped on the road and out out of their trucks, smoking and joking. I noticed a couple of the drivers were surprisingly attractive women. I remarked on this to one of the drivers, and he said something to the effect that yeah she's not bad unless she has to change out a tire. Meaning she was unable to do the task of changing a tire. One of the men would always have have to do that, and any other heavy job beyond the female's capabilities.

    Just the white man's burden I suppose.
     
  16. Tom Iron

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    This will never happen of course, but watching women go through what a grunt does daily would make the greatest "Reality Show" of all time.

    I might even get a tv to watch only that show.

    Tom Iron...
     
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    Our Ancient Friend Chuck Schumer has some egg on his face after his female golem lip-synched the national anthem.

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    I thought I'd seen that picture somewhere before...

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  18. Truthteller

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    Great points. Couldn't have said it better myself, Foobar. And, as usual, great reply by Werewolf, who's political views really seem to be spot on most of the time -- at least in my opinion. I'm sure our long time troll, who posts under many different names would vehemently disagree.

    Just wanted to add this: A leading advocate for women in combat is congresswoman Tammy Duckworth, who has been an absolute darling of the (Jewish lead) progressive movement because she ousted an evil white, Tea-Party "goy-man" in Illinois. Tammy loves to tell the world -- usually via American TelaVivision -- how she "served proudly" and defended Israel as a helicopter pilot in Iraq. Problem came about in 2004 when the half-Asian "shiksa" had her chopper blown to pieces, along with both legs.

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    Point of the photo? I'm certainly not trying to make fun of her predicament or handicap. However, if thousands of Lesbians or radical feminists want to be on the front lines, I'm all for it. Of course, I'm not sure why anyone (male, female, gay or straight) would voluntarily risk losing their life or limbs to make sure Israel remains intact and prosperous?
     
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    Nice posts in this thread, guys.

    I’m also strongly in favor of any legislation that will weaken the Yiddish Protective Force. Over the past 100 years, the fine folks in Hollywood and Washington DC have worked tirelessly to instill one common belief into American minds…that an army comprised entirely of Female Supremacists, Negroes, Mexicans, Latinos/Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders, Indians, Native Americans, Arabs, Mystery Meats, and homosexual whites would be an ultra-athletic, composed, regimented, effervescent, hyper-intellectual juggernaut fighting force to rival any in anthropological history…

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    CAPTION: “Takke Datt U Nazi Crackas”

    If I were “president,” it would be illegal for straight, white males to serve in the American military (but local militias would be highly encouraged) and the U.S. would put this “Army Diversity Blueprint” to the ultimate test as the corporate “Stars and Stripes” would simultaneously engage all of Israel’s enemies in a fight to the death. That list of foes, of course, consists of essentially the entire world, excluding the U.S., Europe, Canada, and Australia/New Zealand.

    Actually, it makes perfect sense for chauvinist women, minorities, or homosexuals to feel “patriotic” and “nostalgic,” and hunger to serve “their” country…since every facet of this despicable nation has been re-tooled specifically to suit every one of their malodorous agendas. Let these mutants “serve”…because I certainly wouldn’t do so.
     
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    You've never been in the military before have you?
     
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    That is correct Menelik and I'm absolutely, 100% very proud of the fact that I have never served. As a college kid I briefly flirted with the idea of joining ROTC or the National Guard in order to help defray the cost of my education. However, I was quickly talked out of it and it was the best advice I ever accepted, even though I didn't agree at the time. Instead I spent my entire summers working as a construction laborer -- between 50 to 70 hrs. a week for little money in 90 degree weather every summer. It was not glamorous work (a job "Americans wont do"), but at least it paid for some costs and I never put my self in danger for the sake of Israel.

    My thoughts, words are certainly not meant as a slight to you or anyone who has served, but here's the bottom line from my perspective: I would never, ever want to sustain a small, quick-healing "paper cut" on my pinky finger fighting for Israel or the Jewish people, let alone risk losing my arms or legs or worse. It's that simple. In my opinion these (Jewish) people have done so much harm to me and my family here in America that I simply do not care to help them in way, shape or form.

    Make no mistake about it, the Jewish elite are pretty much behind everything that is destroying this country -- particularly this enormous wave of third world immigrants, oppressive taxes for working class whites (to pay for their 3rd world pets), a wrecked housing market and banking system, over 20% (true) unemployment rate, the radical gay/lesbian agenda and the rise to power of Marxist Barrack H. Obama. And that's just a small sample.

    Again, if I've offended you or any other CF member who has served, that's not my intent. Just as my good friend Thrashen recently noted in this thread, my wish is that no heterosexual, non-Jewish whites (male or female) would ever risk their life or limbs "defending Israel".
     
  22. Freethinker

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    Here's a simple animation of today's US military

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    Sorry, couldn't help myself.
     
  23. Menelik

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    And you're a stupid son of a bitch. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
     
  24. jaxvid

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    Guys join the military do so for a variety of reasons. A lot probably do it because they believe in America 1.0 which is gone now but many are not aware of it. Some do it for a job, some for the education, some because they want to fight.

    Probably no one does it to benefit israel or the jewish agenda. Sure it works out like that but in a way almost all of us are enabling the system in some manner. For example someone could say that we here at CF are helping out blacks and the system that enables them by following the NFL and watching the games.

    At any rate the injuries and death they suffer is tragic, even more so because the cause (seems to us) to be so unworthy. But for them it is often for God, country, and family. It is kinda low to make fun of someone who sacrifices themselves for such a noble intent. I know it was just in jest but still. :icon_confused:
     
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    Women's "place"....

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    Sodomites "place"...

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