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  1. Freethinker

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    I hope NE or Indianapolis can pull off a trade. No disrespect to Rivers if he wants to play another year or 2, but if I were the Colts and could land a talent like Wentz, I would.
     
  2. Leonardfan

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    Rivers has been very good this year and considering he's a slow, unathletic, old white guy compared with last year's quotaback hype job Brissett it's been even better to see him put together a superb season and leave the NFL with no doubt that Brisett should be a clipboard holder. If Rivers does call it a career then the Colts are the best destination for Wentz. I do not want him going to New England as he would be essentially stepping into the same situation as with the Eagles - trash o-line and trash receivers.
     
  3. wile

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    To move the Taysom Hill question here I'll just say that he would make an ideal second string QB behind an all-pro level QB. Here is my reasoning most teams want a backup QB in the mold of their starter when having such is as rare as a Dodo bird at Thanksgiving. So if your stud QB goes down why bring in a guy and have him attempt to run the O like the stud? For every Matt Cassel year you end up with numerous years more reminiscent of the years Rogers was replaced by Hundley or Peyton Manning by anonymous clip board holder.

    I'd take a one read, done, and run guy over some never will be a Brady, Rogers, Manning any day of the week if my main guy went down, then adjust the playbook.
     
  4. Hartline

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    That's a good way to put it, I completely agree. No one judges black people for looking after their own people.
     
  5. Hartline

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    Yeah the NE situation isn't very ideal ATM. Although Scam makes the whole team look worse than they are. I trust Bill is capable of sorting out that team in the offseason but Wentz showed in his MVP caliber season that in the right situation he can preform at an elite level.
     
  6. Leonardfan

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    Kevin Greene died...damn. He was one of the best ever and a player I remember rooting for as a kid.
     
  7. Extra Point

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    Wow. This is a shame. Greene was one of the all-time great pass rushers. He ranks 3rd on the all time list for sacks with 160. He never got the credit he deserved because of anti-white prejudice.
     
  8. icsept

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    WTF?!? He was what, 50?
     
  9. Warhawk_46

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    Very sad, he is gone far too early at a relatively young 58. I wonder what the cause was? I hadn’t read of any disease but many often keep it from going public.
    RIP.
     
  10. wile

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    In 85 I was eating at a restaurant in Fullerton, CA and in walks this big bad ass looking blond stud and I went damn must be in for Rams camp. Always thought it was Kevin
     
  11. Rocky B

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    RIP Kevin Greene....
    What a great, inspiring player.....
    If you guys haven’t seen the NFL network special on him, watch it.....Damnit.....
     
  12. Don Wassall

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    Kevin Green was a great pass rusher and also had a very extroverted, pro wrestler type personality, which is why he always received a lot of media attention. Clay Matthews would be a good comparison. RIP
     
  13. white is right

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    No I know he was older than that. I read the obituary and he was 58. Still that is way too young to leave this planet.

    From the looks of the announcement it looks like it was sudden and unexpected. I hope it wasn't football related due to pain killers or PED usage, anyway my condolences to the Greene family in their time of sorrow.
     
  14. white is right

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    Which one? I would say Jr, but looks wise it would be III.
     
  15. La France Blanche

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    Funny how Clay Matthews III actually would be justified in putting the "III" on his jersey but doesn't, while so many "looks at me" afroletes have unnecessary II, III, IV, V, Sr., etc. on their jerseys.
     
  16. Don Wassall

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    Clay the similarly extroverted OLB with a similar mane of long blonde hair who similarly specialized in sacking the quarterback.
     
  17. Bucky

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    RIP Kevin Greene. All Time Great.
     
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    I don't follow football much at all any more, but was a huge Kevin Greene fan back when he was with the Steelers. RIP
     
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    Don't the double last name BS that is en vogue with these malcontents.
     
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    I remember his match with Steve 'Mongo' McMichael in WCW in the feud between two great white defensive stars.
     
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    "...and also had a very extroverted, pro wrestler type personality, which is why he always received a lot of media attention."

    A theory of mine is that the media prefers white players to have this persona. Some might call it playing the "free spirit," a term the media loves but actually is an unserious person. I recall reading an interview with Fred Dryer, Ram DE of the 70's, later successful actor. Dryer told of a NFL Films segment in which he was told to "ham it up, act crazy," which Dryer made plain was just for show. This has been the case since the 1970s in my opinion.
     
  22. Don Wassall

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    It's not easy for White players to successfully play that persona as the media is always ready to jump on White players for being too arrogant. The wrestling personality seems to work best.
     
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    “Works for Me”
     
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    And Greene was having asuccessful career as a position coach.

    Always sad when someone leaves the party too soon.
     
  25. Leonardfan

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    Rosen to the 49ers. Being the optimist I do think he is better than Nick Mullens and I feel Shanahan is as good a coach as any to get the potential out of Rosen. It's not a bad move with Jimmy G getting injured almost annually. It's also somewhat interesting it happens now after the Jets won a game to bump them out of the Trevor Lawrence spot so Darnold may not be available for trade - pure speculation by me but that was one of the rumors that seemed to be floating around.

    49ers signed QB Josh Rosen off the Bucs' practice squad.

    The 49ers were in desperate need of a No. 2 quarterback for Saturday's game against the Cardinals, and COVID-19 protocols limited them to players that were already inside the league's roster ecosystem. Rosen has spent the entire year on the Bucs' taxi squad after failing to make the Dolphins at final cuts. To say his career has started off poorly would be an understatement, but a Kyle Shanahan-led offense would be a wonderful place to make his last stand if the Niners decide to keep him around after Week 17.
     

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