English Premier League 2012-13

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  1. frederic38

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    after just 1 minute of play with his new team west ham (as a titular) carroll is involved on the first goal of the match:

    @TBProdigy:
    great :wink:
     
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    i'm watching the match live, carroll is incredible
    he gifted a goal after 9 minutes to a black striker who missed it

    i hope he's not injuried
     
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    He is--hamstring. He will miss the England games. No Rooney or Carroll. That means a black strike force for England.What is with English players and injuries. Hell, they just go out jogging and get injured.

    Rooney, Wilshere and Carroll are missing. 2 definite starters and I would have started Carroll too.
     
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    I just saw the highlights. Good for Carroll. I'd prefer him at Liverpool but it is better to get playing time at West Ham than warming the bench at Liverpool. Shame about the hamstring injury.

    BTW I see Marseille have signed Joey Barton.:biggrin: I'm surprised any team on earth would sign him given his...uh...thuggery issues.
     
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    regarding muscular injuries it could be because of the cold tmperatures
    i didn't even report it but lucas leiva from liverpool had a miscular injury alos in his comeback match
    once a player in england comes back from an injury or gets on the bench for too long, watch out

    he's the 6th white player of marseille, out of 26 players
    we sent mbia to QPR, i hope that he will help them to get relegated
    marseille is fascinating
    they have a gabonese player born in gabon to a black father and a chinese mother
    if you wonder what such a mix looks like, google "Alexander N'Doumbou"
    but elie baup does wonders with the team, and gignac, one of the white players, is back to scoring (he's a gipsy though)
     
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    What on earth is going on at Liverpool? It looks like the owners won't pony up to bring Clint Dempsey to Anfield.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...nction-a-7-million-deal-for-Clint-Dempsey.htm
     
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    reina had another mistake today vs arsenal:

    arsenal won 2-0, and they were whiter than liverpool
     
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    8 whites for Arsenal and only one all black. The two half black were "English". It will be interesting when Wilshere comes back. I wonder how there line up will look.

    Southampton had 9 white starters and almost beat MU, but they had 2 Africans come on late in the game and MU came back to win. One guy was from Zambia. Zambia?
     
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    can you believe that brad friedel is 41 years old:

    [video=youtube;0_DDu5qk-AQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_DDu5qk-AQ&feature=share&list=LPp85rnCncrJo[/video]

    i don't know if he's reliable or not but he's spectacular and has amazing reflex saves
    it's crazy that tim howard could have played titular in the US national team wile there is this guy

    also arsenal is the only team in the league that didn't had a goal scored against them (they have white defenders)
    i hope their forwards will adapt and manage to play well together, and that giroud will be more relaxed

    the teams from manchester have 5 goals scored against them (and they have black defenders)
    and chelsea 2 (with white defenders)
     
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    Breakdowns of the matches played on 1st and 2nd September:

    West Ham United 3 Fulham 0

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori
    Finished: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Maori

    FULHAM:

    Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks

    Swansea City 2 Sunderland 2

    SWANSEA:

    Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks
    Finished: 5 Whites* (3 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks, 1 Asian *Chico sent off after 71'

    SUNDERLAND:

    Started: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black
    Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

    Tottenham Hotspur 1 Norwich City 1

    SPURS:

    Started: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks
    Finished: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks* *Tom Huddlestone sent off after 89'

    NORWICH:

    Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    West Bromwich Albion 2 Everton 0

    WEST BROM:

    Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew

    EVERTON:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
    Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk

    Wigan Athletic 2 Stoke City 2

    WIGAN:

    Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
    Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 Asian

    STOKE:

    Started: 11 Whites (5 Englishmen) :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
    Finished: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black

    Manchester City 3 Queens Park Rangers 1

    MAN. CITY:

    Started: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo, 1 half-Asian
    Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 mestizo

    QPR:

    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 Asian
    Finished: 3 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 Asian

    Liverpool 0 Arsenal 2

    LIVERPOOL:

    Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Turk
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    ARSENAL:

    Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks, 1 mestizo

    Newcastle United 1 Aston Villa 1

    NEWCASTLE:


    Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
    Finished: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese

    VILLA:

    Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black, 1 Arab
    Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

    Southampton 2 Manchester United 3

    SOUTHAMPTON:


    Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    MAN. UNITED:


    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 Asian
    Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo

    SUMMARY OF ROUND:

    198 starters

    Whites: 124 (62.626 %) - Englishmen: 37 (18.686 %)

    Blacks: 57 (28.787 %)

    Other non-Whites: 17 (8.585 %)

    28 goals (Whites: 21; blacks: 4; mestizos: 1; Arabs: 1; Maoris: 1)
     
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    I hear in the sport news now as I am eating lunch and taking a break, that the Greek legendary captain Karagounis, should be 99% considered player of Fulham. I think that's a great transfer for a team like Fulham, Giorgos will add quality and experience to the team. Plus this will benefit the captain too who was not included in national team's 23 for the first time after 1999. He needs one more game to reach 121 participation and break the record of Zagorakis with 120! I think Karagounis will make it in the World Cup of 2014 and then retire as the greatest Greek footballer ever maybe. (If one could ever surpass Hatzipanagis in pure skill)

    Great news I think!
     
  13. frederic38

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    another mistake by reina for liverpool
    i hope that it's the last i will have to report - can't doni play? or maybe a young local goalkeeper? anything but him, it's getting really annoying
     
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    Norwich City 0 West Ham United 0

    NORWICH:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Maori
    Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori, 1 Israeli

    Arsenal 6 Southampton 1

    ARSENAL:

    Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

    SOUTHMPTON:

    Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

    Aston Villa 2 Swansea City 0

    VILLA:

    Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black, 1 Arab
    Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab

    SWANSEA:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks
    Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks, 1 Israeli

    Fulham 3 West Bromwich Albion 0

    FULHAM:

    Started: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black
    Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks, 1 Albanian

    WEST BROM:

    Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks* *Peter Odemwingie sent off after 38'

    Manchester United 4 Wigan Athletic 0

    MAN. UNITED:

    Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 mestizo

    WIGAN:

    Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 black-Amerindian
    Finished: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Arab

    Queens Park Rangers 0 Chelsea 0

    QPR:

    Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 Asian
    Finished: 5 Whites (No Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Asian

    CHELSEA:

    Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks

    Stoke City 1 Manchester City 1

    STOKE:

    Started: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    MAN. CITY:

    Started: 2 Whites (1 Englishman), 7 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 Arab
    Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian

    Sunderland 1 Liverpool 1

    SUNDERLAND:

    Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

    LIVERPOOL:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    Reading 1 Tottenham Hotspur 3

    READING:

    Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Turk
    Finished: 7 Whites (2 englishmen), 4 blacks

    SPURS:

    Started: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks
    Finished: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 8 blacks

    The round shall conclude tonight with Everton v Newcastle United.
     
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    England's Jewish team is true to form.
     
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    regarding the racial breakdowns, the top teams used some substitutes if they could afford it because the champions league starts soon
    so some teams were blacker than usual
     
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    Everton 2 Newcastle United 2

    EVERTON:

    Started: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
    Finished: 5 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk

    NEWCASTLE:

    Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
    Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab

    SUMMARY OF ROUND:

    220 starters

    Whites: 136 (61.818 %) - Englishmen: 45 (20.454 %)

    Blacks: 69 (31.363 %)

    Other non-Whites: 15 (6.818 %)

    28 goals (Whites: 15; blacks: 11; 1 own goal by a White; 1 own goal by a black)
     
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    some really good matches tomorrow with liverpool vs manchester united and arsenal vs manchester city
    based on the previous breakdown it will be 2 "caste" matches, so i'll root for liverpool and arsenal

    also rooney is still injuried i think for mancheser united
     
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    Swansea City 0 Everton 3

    SWANSEA:

    Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks, 1 Asian
    Finished: 4 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks*, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli *Nathan Dyer sent off after 58'

    EVERTON:

    Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian
    Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian

    Chelsea 1 Stoke City 0

    CHELSEA:

    Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    STOKE:

    Started: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black
    Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

    Southampton 4 Aston Villa 1

    SOUTHAMPTON:

    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

    VILLA:

    Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks, 1 Arab
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab

    West Bromwich Albion 1 Reading 0

    WEST BROM:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
    Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Argentine Jew

    READING:

    Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks

    West Ham United 1 Sunderland 1

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Maori
    Finished: 6 Whites ( 3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori, 1 Israeli

    SUNDERLAND:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

    Wigan Athletic 1 Fulham 2

    WIGAN:

    Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
    Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab, 1 Asian

    FULHAM:

    Started: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black
    Finished: Unchanged ratio
     
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    what a nightmarish start of the season for liverpool...they lost lucas leiva because of injury, now agger

    and today against manchester united the refereeing changed the match with a red card to shevley, a penalty not given to liverpool for a foul on suarez, and a penalty given to manchester united
    liverpool played better than manchester united but with a red card this early in the game...

    also loaning andy carroll wasn't wise because now suarez is the only one up front, and he's not really a striker
    and all the crosses they do are useless because caroll is not there
     
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    on the other hand arsenal (8 white starters usually) managed to draw 1-1 in manchester city, they showed that they are a really good team this season - they might even be a contender for the title
    very good match, except for gervinho who was useless (arsene wenger said after the match that he was disappointed because arsenal missed a lot of chances - pretty much all of them were missed by gervinho)

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/1227650/1/.html

    these are the ones i recall the most, the first one especially showed that he's not good nough to play in a top club because his first touch is not good enough
     
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    The commentator that I was listening to said that was the worst touch he has ever seen at that level.
     
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    It's a shame for Liverpool. They played well.That should have only been a yellow. DAvid Luiz had a worse tackle against Stoke and only got a yellow. Shelvey got the ball first.
     
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    I can't imagine what they would do if Suarez got injured.
     
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    i thought the same, it was unreal
    it's very important because it's in this kind of big match that you can judge a player, it's when bad players get exposed and when good players can make the difference
    joe hart was coming really fast towards gervinho
    a lot of people (including commentators and pundits) believe (or act like they believe) that gervinho is skilled, but actually he's absolutely not skilled
    you don't judge the skills of a player by his ability to pull out fancy tricks, but in this kind of momments
    i always give the example of ronaldo's goal against holland during the 1998 world cup, so here's another example:

    [video=youtube_share;tbX6bbVyR1w]http://youtu.be/tbX6bbVyR1w[/video]

    in a match between the 2 best (and whitest) teams in france, PSG and lille, look especially the replays
    lille's goalkeeper comes out of his goal very fast, so there is no room for ibrahimovic to miss his control, the touch has to be perfect

    honestly i don't understand how he can get a red card for this, the other player did the same (i think it was evans), i didn't see any difference
     

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