Miscellaneous

[Snow Plow]

Apparently, they don’t have a suspect in custody. The first one was released.

 

[Snow Plow]

The gunman who killed Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk fired from a Utah Valley University building roughly 200 feet from Kirk's event, a university spokesperson said Wednesday.

The spokesperson, Ellen Treanor, said the shot came from the Losee Center about 20 minutes after Kirk began speaking.

 

[icsept]

Kirk is a Trump political operative. This shooting may well be as fake as the Trump assassination attempt. The powers that be are stoking the fires of political unrest. They want your guns. They want you fighting your fellow slaves when the economy collapses, while they laugh all the way to the bank.

 

[KnowTheScore]

Well, conservative political activist Charlie Kirk was just assassinated at an Utah college during a speaking event. Disgusting video I accidentally saw, he has not been reported dead, but I saw his carotid artery split in half by a rifle round.

Disgusting, so so gross and tragic, leaving behind a wife and I believe 3 young children. It was an elderly white man who looked like a high school math teacher who was detained for shooting him.

Probably a psychotic liberal wacko, also the off chance Kirk was targeted for his Zionist views by a right wing extremist but I highly highly doubt that. Or, of course, it could’ve been our own government/mossad.

I learned about this because my wife called me crying saying she accidentally watched the close up video and it made her sick to her stomach, I feel bad because since we met and she had our daughter, she began getting into mainstream entry level conservative political discourse and enjoys people who support traditional family values, like Charlie Kirk and Candence Owens. I’m personally not a huge fan of mainstream conservatism, I’m quiiiiite a bit further right, but it’s usually the start for everyone and I totally understand anyone who aligns that way.

The minute the news break that he has died, I have a feely a LOT far right extremists are about to be born.

I have been scrolling on Twitter and have seen multiple SEC "burner" accounts say they are now radicalized, so your last point looks to be correct so far. Elon owning Twitter will make that process easier - much simpler process to find genuine right wing content now. Very sad news about Kirk.

 

[Bucky]

Kirk is a Trump political operative. This shooting may well be as fake as the Trump assassination attempt. The powers that be are stoking the fires of political unrest. They want your guns. They want you fighting your fellow slaves when the economy collapses, while they laugh all the way to the bank.

It also conveniently takes the discussion off the Ukrainian Girl butchered in Charlotte.

RIP Charlie and Iryna.

 

[jacque]

It also conveniently takes the discussion off the Ukrainian Girl butchered in Charlotte.

RIP Charlie and Iryna.

I’m going to pretend that I know for certain these events are random and they will wake up white Americans permanently, for the sake of my own sanity

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

it’s best if i leave my thoughts on more White people, even those who are kosher-approved, lite-right gatekeepers, unwritten …

 

[Leonardfan]

Kirk was certainly part of Con Inc but he also redpilled a lot of young people. He did more than any of us have ever done to wake people up and speak out against alot of the marxist cancer currently destroying our country. I think there are certainly different levels of us similar minded people that are aware of what is going on. Kirk was certainly a gateway for many young people. The fact he would go out and debate on college campuses filled with insane, mentally ill, cult worshipping idiots and put them up for debate should be commended.

Awareness must continue and I think these events are waking more people up. No one individual is going to magically save all of us but there are alot of individuals out there waking people up. I feel Kirk was one of those types and deserves respect for what he was able to accomplish.

 

[Freethinker]

Well, conservative political activist Charlie Kirk was just assassinated at an Utah college during a speaking event. Disgusting video I accidentally saw, he has not been reported dead, but I saw his carotid artery split in half by a rifle round.

Disgusting, so so gross and tragic, leaving behind a wife and I believe 3 young children. It was an elderly white man who looked like a high school math teacher who was detained for shooting him.

Probably a psychotic liberal wacko, also the off chance Kirk was targeted for his Zionist views by a right wing extremist but I highly highly doubt that. Or, of course, it could’ve been our own government/mossad.

I learned about this because my wife called me crying saying she accidentally watched the close up video and it made her sick to her stomach, I feel bad because since we met and she had our daughter, she began getting into mainstream entry level conservative political discourse and enjoys people who support traditional family values, like Charlie Kirk and Candence Owens. I’m personally not a huge fan of mainstream conservatism, I’m quiiiiite a bit further right, but it’s usually the start for everyone and I totally understand anyone who aligns that way.

The minute the news break that he has died, I have a feely a LOT far right extremists are about to be born.

RIP to Charlie. Truly a sickening day, but one that could be revolutionary as this will radicalize a lot of our people in the normie world. I am however tremendously sad for Charlie’s wife and children. No one wants their loved one to be a martyr.

I’m in the same boat as you, Kirk never did much for me, but in recent months my wife had become a fan. She actually texted me the news before I heard anywhere else. This is going to have widespread ramifications.

 

[knightedsoldier5000]

i don't even know what to say except that Democrats and leftists are obviously satanic. We're suffering today because of the society FDR and LBJ and their fellow communists put in place so many years ago.

 

[Leonardfan]

i don't even know what to say except that Democrats and leftists are obviously satanic. We're suffering today because of the society FDR and LBJ and their fellow communists put in place so many years ago.

Yep. Frankfurt school long march through the institutions. FDR and LBJ two huge reasons as to why.

 

[White Lightning]

Yep. Frankfurt school long march through the institutions. FDR and LBJ two huge reasons as to why.

General Patton warned us over and over after World War 2. He was silenced like any that stands in the way of the commies.

 

[icsept]

The Kirk “assassination” is a direct attack on the 1st and 2nd amendments by our rulers. The wholly false psyop fhat “political speech causes murderous violence.” And “guns need to be kept out of the hands of those who get triggered by speech.” This is not real crime, which has a motive which actually benefits the criminal and takes a calculated risk. Murdering a college debater is not a real crime, it’s an authoritarian fantasy to convince the slaves that “something must be done.” You’re also supposed to give your angst, horror, and outrage about something you did not witness that supposedly happened to someone you do not know. Don’t give your energy to this lie.

 

[White Lightning]

The Kirk “assassination” is a direct attack on the 1st and 2nd amendments by our rulers. The wholly false psyop fhat “political speech causes murderous violence.” And “guns need to be kept out of the hands of those who get triggered by speech.” This is not real crime, which has a motive which actually benefits the criminal and takes a calculated risk. Murdering a college debater is not a real crime, it’s an authoritarian fantasy to convince the slaves that “something must be done.” You’re also supposed to give your angst, horror, and outrage about something you did not witness that supposedly happened to someone you do not know. Don’t give your energy to this lie.

Whether true or not we know many of these incidents are false flags with crisis actors. Yes you know why these things keep happening? They want to disarm the whole planet. Then the final plan can take place. Look around the world at all the countries and what happened after they lost their weapons? Just ask England for example? Stay safe guys and may God help us.

 

[jacque]

I’m already sick of analyzing and thinking about the Kirk situation, it’s ruined my day enough. Something is very, very gross in particular to me about a mainstream lite-right moderate being publicly slaughtered in front of his wife and children, defenseless. It’s almost unfathomable that liberal nut-cases really believe that man was Hitler-reincarnate.

Let this be the death of the moderate right

 

[wokewhite232]

I’m already sick of analyzing and thinking about the Kirk situation, it’s ruined my day enough. Something is very, very gross in particular to me about a mainstream lite-right moderate being publicly slaughtered in front of his wife and children, defenseless. It’s almost unfathomable that liberal nut-cases really believe that man was Hitler-reincarnate.

Let this be the death of the moderate right

This looks like a Mossad operation, just like JFK and 9/11.

 

[Phall]

It's a very difficult day.

Kirk was a family man, a Christian, and a white male. He projected confidence and engaged our enemies often in open public debate. Almost everyone I speak to honestly is "further to the right" than his positions. His public killing puts many people on notice that their views are worthy of their murder to the extremists of another class.

The Kirk “assassination” is a direct attack on the 1st and 2nd amendments by our rulers. The wholly false psyop fhat “political speech causes murderous violence.” And “guns need to be kept out of the hands of those who get triggered by speech.” This is not real crime, which has a motive which actually benefits the criminal and takes a calculated risk. Murdering a college debater is not a real crime, it’s an authoritarian fantasy to convince the slaves that “something must be done.” You’re also supposed to give your angst, horror, and outrage about something you did not witness that supposedly happened to someone you do not know. Don’t give your energy to this lie.

I'm on a similar wavelength. I'm really struggling with the "cui bono" (who benefits?) aspect of this awful episode.

Kirk was an actor by profession, and I don't think he was a profound thinker or even a principled one. His job was to perform "improv" for the character he was given. My impression of him prior to today was that he was kind of a dupe. He didn't instigate or spearhead new, more inappropriate ideas to his rather massive audience. He was a gatekeeper while also being a potential soft introduction to more serious ideals. I remember a handful of year ago, he had a gay black "conservative" on stage with him, telling young Republican college kids that the party should be more inclusive. He pivoted to move with the temperature of the times.

Virtually everyone I've ever spoken with honestly about my views has shared theirs as further to the right of Charlie's current public viewpoint. This makes us all targets, and it also makes us feel like potential targets.

What is the possible motive of the killer? And bear in mind that there are easier ways to kill this guy (probably) than a sniper shot from 200 (feet or yards away, I'm hearing too much noise on Twitter to know any better).

1) It's another deranged tranny. They are the popular public mass-killers now, and Kirk's "hate speech" drove them nuts
* I don't believe this at all. A lone tranny killer, with or without a big Fed-concocted motive, would've been caught by now

2) Big Democrat was worried that Kirk was reaching too far across the aisle and "talking sense" into their young voter bloc before the next election
* I don't even believe that elections are real anymore, so I reject this idea on its head that some clandestine PAC would sanction a murder of a soft personality. They could steal any election already, in my opinion.

3) Big Bibi, or Israel for short, felt that Kirk was about to turn on his previous unwavering loyalty to them, publicly. Kirk had a huge moderate audience and could sway American opinion as a whole against Israel's parasitic relationship over our acting political body.
* I can't rule this out at all

4) The "deep state" wants to swarm the popular opinion toward Total War: civil, territorial, interracial, whatever. The chaos gives them excuses when the upcoming economy crashes fully.
* hard for me to argue against this idea, either

When I saw some obviously state-sponsored "hate crimes" from weirdos such as the kid that drive 5 hours north to shoot black women at a grocery store in Buffalo, or the old Nazi man shooting other senior citizens in their synagogue, or the famous bowl-cut kid going nuts in a black church, I sensed that these were not right. This one is very weird, plus exponentially disruptive. I feel a very natural wave of harm and threat to my most basic foundation.

When "they" see (or perpaps do) a school shooting, they do it for gun control, ie banning all guns. When "they" do a hate crime performace from a groomed loony, it's for controlled speech. I am not grasping this at the moment, it's scary to me. I think this is "Point A," there will be a "Point C" and "they" are willing to make our demographic act irrationally, react irrationally, by producing a Point B.

I want to figure out what Point C is before I react with Point B. Just get ready for it, that's all I'm telling to myself.

 

[Don Wassall]

There's a website doxxing those who are celebrating Charlie's death: https://counter-currents.com/2025/09/its-them-or-us-the-kirk-assassination/

 

[Don Wassall]

This is a good article by Greg Johnson. The left still has control of much of the power but not as much as before, and momentum continues to shift in our favor. The martyrdom of Charlie Kirk will speed up that process. But these evil forces simply can't be allowed to take full control again. They need to be smashed now while there is still time. If this doesn't get the Trump administration off its collective ass and going after some of the main perps of the past decade legally, it likely never will. Some excerpts from Johnson's article:

I strongly disagreed with many of Charlie Kirk’s positions. But my deeper objection was that I saw him as a Conservative Inc. gatekeeper, positioned to prevent people from journeying toward the real right: nationalism, populism, white identity, and an awareness of the Jewish Question. Gradually, I came to hate him.

But over the last few years, I began to revise my opinion, because it became clear that Charlie Kirk was on the very journey that I thought he was trying to prevent others from taking. I still disagreed with him on Israel and Ukraine, but just since the beginning of this year, Kirk repeatedly stood against anti-whiteness, opposed H1Bs, discussed the Mossad-Epstein connection, attacked the myths about Martin Luther King, and even questioned the Civil Rights Act. His last post on X demanded that we politicize the murder of Iryna Zarutska to prevent other such crimes in the future. . .

There’s a lesson in this, a radicalizing one: we can’t live with these people. Charlie Kirk was a moderate. He believed in reasoned debate with his political opponents. He believed that college should expose people to different ideas. That’s why he was at Utah Valley University. That’s why he was killed. And liberals say he deserved it because of his ideas. So they think that every one of us also deserves to die. Thus, once again, we can’t live with these people. Literally. They want us dead.

Yet in January of 2029, if a Democrat wins the White House, the very same people who think Charlie Kirk deserved to die—along with everyone to the right of him, and vast swathes of people toward the center—will demand a “peaceful transfer of power.”

Note that the Left no longer defines democracy as getting the most votes—because frequently they don’t. Instead, democracy is the Right “peacefully transferring power” to them even in stolen elections, under the threat of violent insurrection.

The “peaceful transfer of power” to the Left basically means handing a loaded gun—indeed, millions of loaded guns, the full power of the state—to the people who think you deserve to die for your views.

Do you think that’s a good idea?

I don’t. You’d have to be either suicidal or stupid to do that. I am neither. Multiparty democracy is impossible unless you can hand your political enemies a loaded gun from time to time and trust them not to shoot you with it. As I argue in my essay, “The End of American Democracy” in Is America Doomed?, that America is long dead.

America is no longer one country divided into two parties. It is now two nations sharing the same territory and political system, slowly coming to the realization that we can’t live with one another, that we are in a zero-sum struggle for survival, that it is them or us.

The Left concluded in 2020 that Donald Trump was too dangerous to be allowed to continue in office, no matter who got the most votes. Thus they stole the election and cowed the Republicans (not a difficult thing to do) into going along with them by threatening more unhinged Leftist violence.

The Democrats would have stolen the election in 2024 if it had been close enough to be plausible, but since they knew that Harris was going to lose (even while raising untold millions for her campaign), they didn’t even try to steal it, and when their shooter missed, they pretty much resigned themselves to defeat.

I have no question that the Democrats will do anything to regain the White House in 2028, and if they are allowed to take power, they will put an end to American democracy for good. Then they’ll open the borders again and arrest or just kill their opponents.

So you can listen to me now, or you can listen to me later saying “I told you so” in Guantanamo.

Don’t tell me that the people gloating over Kirk’s death are marginal and would have no power in a future Democrat administration. They are precisely the kind of vermin who stole into the White House in Joe Biden’s luggage. They were the people who wielded the autopen while Biden shuffled, drooled, and crapped himself. They are the representatives who interrupted a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk in Congress. And because the Left has no brakes, the next Democrat administration will only be worse. Do you really want to bet your life and the future of America on any other outcome?

It is time for the Right to have a mature conversation about simply abolishing the Democrat party: seizing its assets, shutting down its institutions, and disqualifying its politicians and activists from participation in public life. They should be reduced to the status of minors, retards, and crazy people.

Of course that doesn’t mean that the likes of Mike Johnson will rule unopposed. We can still have a multiparty democracy. In fact, I’ll volunteer to head the opposition party.

In the meantime, we can practice smashing the Democrats by taking names and collecting scalps.

Charlie Kirk’s murder reveals that America is a deeply polarized and profoundly sick society. The Left is making this rift abundantly clear. But we should also beware of centrists who will try to paper over this divide with patriotic corn, “both sides” and whataboutisms, and “above it all” posturing. Anything to prevent you from drawing a friend-enemy distinction in the right place.

Charlie Kirk’s murder reveals a sobering truth: we can’t live with these people. Fortunately, we don’t have to.

It’s Them or Us The Kirk Assassination

1,346 words On Wednesday, September 10th, I watched Charlie Kirk die, shot in the neck by an assassin as he spoke on the campus of Utah Valley University. There are reports, unconfirmed so far, that his wife and young daughter were present. My heart goes out to them and all who mourn his death...

counter-currents.com

 

[Freethinker]

This is a good article by Greg Johnson. The left still has control of much of the power but not as much as before, and momentum continues to shift in our favor. The martyrdom of Charlie Kirk will speed up that process. But these evil forces simply can't be allowed to take full control again. They need to be smashed now while there is still time. If this doesn't get the Trump administration off its collective ass and going after some of the main perps of the past decade legally, it likely never will. Some excerpts from Johnson's article:

I strongly disagreed with many of Charlie Kirk’s positions. But my deeper objection was that I saw him as a Conservative Inc. gatekeeper, positioned to prevent people from journeying toward the real right: nationalism, populism, white identity, and an awareness of the Jewish Question. Gradually, I came to hate him.

But over the last few years, I began to revise my opinion, because it became clear that Charlie Kirk was on the very journey that I thought he was trying to prevent others from taking. I still disagreed with him on Israel and Ukraine, but just since the beginning of this year, Kirk repeatedly stood against anti-whiteness, opposed H1Bs, discussed the Mossad-Epstein connection, attacked the myths about Martin Luther King, and even questioned the Civil Rights Act. His last post on X demanded that we politicize the murder of Iryna Zarutska to prevent other such crimes in the future. . .

There’s a lesson in this, a radicalizing one: we can’t live with these people. Charlie Kirk was a moderate. He believed in reasoned debate with his political opponents. He believed that college should expose people to different ideas. That’s why he was at Utah Valley University. That’s why he was killed. And liberals say he deserved it because of his ideas. So they think that every one of us also deserves to die. Thus, once again, we can’t live with these people. Literally. They want us dead.

Yet in January of 2029, if a Democrat wins the White House, the very same people who think Charlie Kirk deserved to die—along with everyone to the right of him, and vast swathes of people toward the center—will demand a “peaceful transfer of power.”

Note that the Left no longer defines democracy as getting the most votes—because frequently they don’t. Instead, democracy is the Right “peacefully transferring power” to them even in stolen elections, under the threat of violent insurrection.

The “peaceful transfer of power” to the Left basically means handing a loaded gun—indeed, millions of loaded guns, the full power of the state—to the people who think you deserve to die for your views.

Do you think that’s a good idea?

I don’t. You’d have to be either suicidal or stupid to do that. I am neither. Multiparty democracy is impossible unless you can hand your political enemies a loaded gun from time to time and trust them not to shoot you with it. As I argue in my essay, “The End of American Democracy” in Is America Doomed?, that America is long dead.

America is no longer one country divided into two parties. It is now two nations sharing the same territory and political system, slowly coming to the realization that we can’t live with one another, that we are in a zero-sum struggle for survival, that it is them or us.

The Left concluded in 2020 that Donald Trump was too dangerous to be allowed to continue in office, no matter who got the most votes. Thus they stole the election and cowed the Republicans (not a difficult thing to do) into going along with them by threatening more unhinged Leftist violence.

The Democrats would have stolen the election in 2024 if it had been close enough to be plausible, but since they knew that Harris was going to lose (even while raising untold millions for her campaign), they didn’t even try to steal it, and when their shooter missed, they pretty much resigned themselves to defeat.

I have no question that the Democrats will do anything to regain the White House in 2028, and if they are allowed to take power, they will put an end to American democracy for good. Then they’ll open the borders again and arrest or just kill their opponents.

So you can listen to me now, or you can listen to me later saying “I told you so” in Guantanamo.

Don’t tell me that the people gloating over Kirk’s death are marginal and would have no power in a future Democrat administration. They are precisely the kind of vermin who stole into the White House in Joe Biden’s luggage. They were the people who wielded the autopen while Biden shuffled, drooled, and crapped himself. They are the representatives who interrupted a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk in Congress. And because the Left has no brakes, the next Democrat administration will only be worse. Do you really want to bet your life and the future of America on any other outcome?

It is time for the Right to have a mature conversation about simply abolishing the Democrat party: seizing its assets, shutting down its institutions, and disqualifying its politicians and activists from participation in public life. They should be reduced to the status of minors, retards, and crazy people.

Of course that doesn’t mean that the likes of Mike Johnson will rule unopposed. We can still have a multiparty democracy. In fact, I’ll volunteer to head the opposition party.

In the meantime, we can practice smashing the Democrats by taking names and collecting scalps.

Charlie Kirk’s murder reveals that America is a deeply polarized and profoundly sick society. The Left is making this rift abundantly clear. But we should also beware of centrists who will try to paper over this divide with patriotic corn, “both sides” and whataboutisms, and “above it all” posturing. Anything to prevent you from drawing a friend-enemy distinction in the right place.

Charlie Kirk’s murder reveals a sobering truth: we can’t live with these people. Fortunately, we don’t have to.

It’s Them or Us The Kirk Assassination

1,346 words On Wednesday, September 10th, I watched Charlie Kirk die, shot in the neck by an assassin as he spoke on the campus of Utah Valley University. There are reports, unconfirmed so far, that his wife and young daughter were present. My heart goes out to them and all who mourn his death...

counter-currents.com

Fully agreed. Greg speaks the truth here.