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well, 3 big ones are all in AFC, Brady, Manning, Palmer... NFC has Hasselbeck and... Delhomme? Brunnell? still Vick has no business whatsoever being anywhere but sprawled on the ground under TB Defense this Saturday... freakin media, pro bowl is a joke nowadays
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This is 2 years in a row now that an undeserving Vick is in the Pro Bowl. When punk Vick's career is over they will point to all his Pro Bowl's as justification for him to be voted into the Hall of Fame. They certainly will not be able to promote his stats or his Super Bowl victories. The NFL has no integrity at all.
I wish Bledsoe or Brunell would make a statement saying they got robbed just to get some discussion going.
I wish Bledsoe or Brunell would make a statement saying they got robbed just to get some discussion going.
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Eli Manning would've been a better pick too.
This is just so totally bogus!! A case could have been made for E Manning who is leading his team to the playoff's or Bledsoe who has revived Dallas or B.Johnson who's missed games but has done wonders for a previously dead Vikings team.But how in the heck can youplace Vick over Brunell?? Brunell has him beat in every passing category and has 20 TD's -8 Int's to Vicks 13 TD's - 12 Int's. Evenentering Vick's running stats into the equation leave him short.
I had forgotten Kurt Warner. He's averaged more than 300 yds in the air for his last six games before getting hurt.
Rex Grossman outplayed Vick the other night and he hasn't seen the field in two years! I would take any of the above mentioned names over Vick.Edited by: Bart
I had forgotten Kurt Warner. He's averaged more than 300 yds in the air for his last six games before getting hurt.
Rex Grossman outplayed Vick the other night and he hasn't seen the field in two years! I would take any of the above mentioned names over Vick.Edited by: Bart
Other than Vick, all the QBs selected are white. That's the only position with more than a minimal white presence other than kicker. The same black o-linemen get picked every year no matter how well or poorly they play -- Willie Anderson, Jonathan Ogden (beaten a lot this year), Willie Roaf (injured a good portion of the season), Will Shields, Orlando Pace, Larry Allen. These same guys will be selected every year until they retire.
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Vanden Bosh snubbed.
Vanden Bosch, whose 12.5 sacks rank second in the league, was beat out by Derrick Burgess (Raiders), Dwight Freeney (Colts) and Jason Taylor (Dolphins). Vanden Bosch received the second most fan votes for the AFC's defensive end position.
Vanden Bosch, whose 12.5 sacks rank second in the league, was beat out by Derrick Burgess (Raiders), Dwight Freeney (Colts) and Jason Taylor (Dolphins). Vanden Bosch received the second most fan votes for the AFC's defensive end position.
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Sportsnation gave Vick only 24.1% of the vote. He was the lowest selected quarterback in the NFC, other than Brett Favre, who only garnered 5.9% of the vote from ESPN's SportsNation.
Its no surprise that Vick made it, after all, the players and the coaches are the ones who's ballots count the most, and you *know* all the brothers in the NFL are going to cast their vote for Vick.
I will be surprised if he isn't named the starter, to tell you the truth.
Its no surprise that Vick made it, after all, the players and the coaches are the ones who's ballots count the most, and you *know* all the brothers in the NFL are going to cast their vote for Vick.
I will be surprised if he isn't named the starter, to tell you the truth.
Charles Robinson also feels Brunell was snubbed. He must read our posts.
Mark Brunell , QB, Washington Redskins PuttingJakeDelhomme ahead of Brunell was definitely a snub. Like Delhomme, Brunell has had really only one good receiver to work with, but he has still managed to throw for 20 touchdowns against eight interceptions in 13 starts (five of the picks came in two bad games). But people still look at Brunell and think of last season's below-average, injury-riddled player, rather than the one who has thrown for 15 touchdowns against Dallas (twice), Denver, Seattle, Kansas City and Tampa Bay. Oh, and lest we forget, he's been good enough to keep his team in a playoff spot, unlike another guy who got a Pro Bowl nod ... Michael Vick
Mark Brunell , QB, Washington Redskins PuttingJakeDelhomme ahead of Brunell was definitely a snub. Like Delhomme, Brunell has had really only one good receiver to work with, but he has still managed to throw for 20 touchdowns against eight interceptions in 13 starts (five of the picks came in two bad games). But people still look at Brunell and think of last season's below-average, injury-riddled player, rather than the one who has thrown for 15 touchdowns against Dallas (twice), Denver, Seattle, Kansas City and Tampa Bay. Oh, and lest we forget, he's been good enough to keep his team in a playoff spot, unlike another guy who got a Pro Bowl nod ... Michael Vick
I'm not a conspiracy guy by nature but what would you call Vick going to the Pro Bowl.Vanden Bosch gets no love from Denny Green and now doesn't get any from his fellow players.No shock.I wonder if any of the white media guys will have enough guts to say what a joke it is that Vick is in the Bowl.Not holding my breath.
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Colin Cowturd was in rare form today. He was actually GLOATING that Vick had made the Pro Bowl, and could not refrain from remarking, over and over, that BRETT FAVRE DID NOT. Apparently Cowturd thinks this is worthy of mention, I don't know, but winning a Pro Bowl slot over Favre doesn't say much these days.
He attributes Vick's selection to the fact that the coaches and players have to game plan against Vick, and therefore know more about how valuable he is to the Falcons than all the fantasy nerds out here in fandom.
One of the producers of the show apparently disagreed with Vick's selection, and Cowturd put him on the air. The guy said that Vick was selected because the players are protecting one of their own, voting for him to thwart all the negative criticism that has been thrown Vick's way of late.
I couldn't agree more.
He attributes Vick's selection to the fact that the coaches and players have to game plan against Vick, and therefore know more about how valuable he is to the Falcons than all the fantasy nerds out here in fandom.
One of the producers of the show apparently disagreed with Vick's selection, and Cowturd put him on the air. The guy said that Vick was selected because the players are protecting one of their own, voting for him to thwart all the negative criticism that has been thrown Vick's way of late.
I couldn't agree more.
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I also agree with the producer's sentiments. Blacks stick together and vote as a block. I would bet Vick garnererd the lions share of black votes. The Pro Bowl award is meaningless as Jaxvid said, for various factors. However,Cowturd and the media will use Vick's selection to counter and silence his ( racist) critics.
I would think players who have contracts with bonusesbased on making the Pro Bowl would be angered if a lesser player went to Hawaill in their stead.
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Just a guess, but I'd venture that most of those players are probably black, too.
It would be interesting to find out if Eli, Bledsoe, or Brunell's contract, for example, have bonuses for Pro Bowl selection.
In a sense, Vick's selection was aided by the fact that most of the rest of the NFC's quarterbacks haven't played a full season. Bulger, Warner, Grossman, Johnson, and McNabb did not play enough games ( I guess ) to warrant inclusion, although most of them in their few appearances *did* play better than Vick has overall.
Mere speculation, but I wonder if, had McNabb finished the season, he would have bumped Vick or would it have been one of the other two (white) quarterbacks?
Vick's selection is disgraceful, but completely predictable. What is
really interesting is that I have heard at least two of the lame,
wannabe comedians on ESPN and/or the NFL Network use the exact same
curious explanation as to why Vick was selected to the Pro Bowl;
because you have to "game plan" for him. This is one of the many
reasons why I became a real believer in conspiracies; it just defies
all odds to think that at least three talking heads, all independent of
one another, would use the exact same unusual phrase to explain Vick's
inexcusable selection to the Pro Bowl. What is almost as bad as
including Vick is excluding Eli Manning, who has put up great stats on
a first-place team. As the younger brother of the NFL's biggest star,
he should merit a lot more media attention than he's getting,
especially considering he's playing in New York. Still, the same
jock-sniffers who attribute Vick's selection to some ridiculous "game
plan" strategy, think the only real snub was overlooking Mark Brunell,
not Eli Manning, for Jake Delhomme, not Mike/Michael Vick.
really interesting is that I have heard at least two of the lame,
wannabe comedians on ESPN and/or the NFL Network use the exact same
curious explanation as to why Vick was selected to the Pro Bowl;
because you have to "game plan" for him. This is one of the many
reasons why I became a real believer in conspiracies; it just defies
all odds to think that at least three talking heads, all independent of
one another, would use the exact same unusual phrase to explain Vick's
inexcusable selection to the Pro Bowl. What is almost as bad as
including Vick is excluding Eli Manning, who has put up great stats on
a first-place team. As the younger brother of the NFL's biggest star,
he should merit a lot more media attention than he's getting,
especially considering he's playing in New York. Still, the same
jock-sniffers who attribute Vick's selection to some ridiculous "game
plan" strategy, think the only real snub was overlooking Mark Brunell,
not Eli Manning, for Jake Delhomme, not Mike/Michael Vick.
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You do have to game plan for vick: just put eleven in the box and watch the offence get shut down.
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It's obvious to me that all punk Vick has to do to make the Pro Bowl every year is put on his uniform. There is hope though.
On 'Around the Horn' during the 'Buy or Sell' segment the question was, Buy or Sell Vick making the Pro Bowl. Three of the four reporters ripped Vick with only black loving Woody Paige buying 'Vick'. Tim Calishaw ripped him up the best saying just about all the things we say on this site about him.
In my opinion, punk Vick is losing the support of the media. It is happening very slowly but it does seem to be happening. The media does not support losers and seem ready to dump Vick in the trash bin-where he belongs.
On 'Around the Horn' during the 'Buy or Sell' segment the question was, Buy or Sell Vick making the Pro Bowl. Three of the four reporters ripped Vick with only black loving Woody Paige buying 'Vick'. Tim Calishaw ripped him up the best saying just about all the things we say on this site about him.
In my opinion, punk Vick is losing the support of the media. It is happening very slowly but it does seem to be happening. The media does not support losers and seem ready to dump Vick in the trash bin-where he belongs.
patience, young Skywalker, remember that neither Rome was built in a day nor Kordell Stewart lost support of media straight away... it will happen eventually as there's only so much you can kid yourselves about a player like Vick
The situation in the NFL is similar to a dysfuntional familiy.
The elephant is in the living room but no one will acknoledge it.
It will take years of heart ache and sorrow before someone finally
states " The emporer has no cloths" Then slowly scales will be
lifted and all will see the Stockholm syndrome of media hype they have
been living in.
The elephant is in the living room but no one will acknoledge it.
It will take years of heart ache and sorrow before someone finally
states " The emporer has no cloths" Then slowly scales will be
lifted and all will see the Stockholm syndrome of media hype they have
been living in.