Why do people still talk of WASPs as a dominate group?

[Charles Martel]

It makes no sense to me why so many people believe White Anglo-Saxon Protestants are a dominant group in the USA.

There are far fewer influential people of WASP heritage than Jewish, Irish, Scottish, or Italian ancestry.

Back in the 19th century, White Anglo-Saxons did have influence in the USA. But from the mid-20th century to the present WASPs seem to have become an increasingly powerless minority.

The only influential media person in the US I can think of with Anglo-Saxon ancestry is Ted Turner, and he was pretty much run out of business by the Chosen Ones. Of the people we see on mainstream TV, the only WASP I can think of is Anderson Cooper, and he's a homosexual. It seems like the rule nowadays is the only way a WASP male can work in the media is if he's gay.

When I check the Forbes list of the 100 richest people, I've noticed fewer and fewer people on the list each year are of Anglo-Saxon heritage, and most of them like Warren Buffett and the Waltons are old. Most of the younger people on the list such as Sergey Brin and Mark Zukerberg are Jewish. More of the richest Americans are Jewish than ever before (Adelson, Bloomberg, Soros, Ellison, Page, Brin etc).

Wouldn't it be more accurate to consider Jews to be the dominant group in America?

 

[white is right]

It makes no sense to me why so many people believe White Anglo-Saxon Protestants are a dominant group in the USA.

There are far fewer influential people of WASP heritage than Jewish, Irish, Scottish, or Italian ancestry.

Back in the 19th century, White Anglo-Saxons did have influence in the USA. But from the mid-20th century to the present WASPs seem to have become an increasingly powerless minority.

The only influential media person in the US I can think of with Anglo-Saxon ancestry is Ted Turner, and he was pretty much run out of business by the Chosen Ones. Of the people we see on mainstream TV, the only WASP I can think of is Anderson Cooper, and he's a homosexual. It seems like the rule nowadays is the only way a WASP male can work in the media is if he's gay.

When I check the Forbes list of the 100 richest people, I've noticed fewer and fewer people on the list each year are of Anglo-Saxon heritage, and most of them like Warren Buffett and the Waltons are old. Most of the younger people on the list such as Sergey Brin and Mark Zukerberg are Jewish. More of the richest Americans are Jewish than ever before (Adelson, Bloomberg, Soros, Ellison, Page, Brin etc).

Wouldn't it be more accurate to consider Jews to be the dominant group in America?

I think it's because virtually all of the Presidents have been Wasps less a few recent ones. Also Buffett is a French surname, not that he might not be predominately Anglo-Saxon.

 

[Charles Martel]

I think it's because virtually all of the Presidents have been Wasps less a few recent ones. Also Buffett is a French surname, not that he might not be predominately Anglo-Saxon.

Here in Canada, has a WASP ever been voted Prime Minister?

There have been a small number of WASP Prime Ministers (Turner, Abbott, Bowell) but they were interim after someone died or retired. There were two who were half-WASP and half-Scottish (Borden & King) and one who was half-English and half-Irish (Bennett). Harper says he's Irish, but that may be for reasons of "political correctness" and he may really be WASP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Canada

Did you know the actor Tim Roth's father changed his name from the WASP "Smith" to a Jewish name "Roth" to hide the fact that he was English?

 

[amoeba man]

I would classify the Scottish as wasps as many lowland Scots have Saxon heritage,the highland Scots not so much.I read an interesting article about the wasps loss of power over the last 50 or so years that gave examples of how the institutions they set up like Harvard university are now used to discriminate against them.Harvard has an enrollment thats overwhelmingly Jewish.That alone should indicate to anyone the massive networking that goes on between Jews to maintain and tighten their grip on power.

 

[Matra2]

I would classify the Scottish as wasps as many lowland Scots have Saxon heritage,the highland Scots not so much.

Yes, the Scots and Scots-Irish are usually included in the WASP category along with the French Huguenots and Germanic peoples who intermarried with them back in the 1700s.

The reason people think WASPs still rule is because most people are ignorant and incurious. They get their world view from mass media which is dominated by Jews along with quite a few Ellis Islanders with a chip on their shoulders towards America's founding stock. Since this mass media portrays WASPs as rulers and there is no WASP lobby to counter the stereotyping (blood libel?) the average dullard goes along with it.

 

[Phall]

The 'term' WASP is loosely but definitively pejorative, coined (though not necessarily invented) by jew academic Andrew Hacker in 1957. The acronym is redundant either two or three times over, depending on how specifically you want to parse demographics. It was popularized in 1964 by an actual WASP sociologist from the ivory tower, who noticed a "declining authority of aristocracy and caste" without any particular sense of alarm.

Today, it's just another way to demonize whites by castigating "typical white" behavior and ancestry while rewarding diversity and distinction simply for breaking away from tradition. The WASP label is either neutral or unflattering, but never complimentary. The reason "WASPs" are characterized as dominant is because the powers that be control the language and therefore the discourse, a la '1984'. The term is perpetuated by jews and non-whites, who have a self-interest in demonizing their host majority for short-term gains, and by white elites, who have no vested interest in self-preservation outside of their tiny enclaves, and in fact stand to benefit from a diluted underclass.

 

[davidholly]

To liberals a "WASP" need only be white. The Anglo Saxon Protestant part is completely optional. Even Ashkenazi Jews are bunched in as WASPs.

 

[Don Wassall]

To liberals a "WASP" need only be white. The Anglo Saxon Protestant part is completely optional. Even Ashkenazi Jews are bunched in as WASPs.

Similarly, Mexicans call all Whites "Anglos." The Amish refer to non-Amish as "the English."

The "WASP" establishment was replaced because of its altruism, its deracination, and its decadence. The far more aggressive Jews who overtook and replaced them are anything but altruistic, though they are far more decadent in their predilections for pornography, homosexuality and phallus worship, and other deviant behaviors, not to mention their continuing fondness for communism, feminism, et al., and totalitarian methodology in general.

Kevin MacDonald has been the leading American writer for some time on the rise of the Jewish establishment in the U.S. and how it networks to keep and expand its hold on power.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

All whites are under attack, but the "White Anglo Saxon Protestant" is easily the most hated of all whites. It is true that many non-whites dont know the difference between a WASP, and say an Italian Catholic.

However, those who DO know the difference. Those who DO understand what a "WASP" is are extra hateful towards them.:kev:

 

[amoeba man]

Matra,agree with what you say but when you refer to Scots-Irish i assume your talking about the Ulstermen in Northern Ireland who are mostly of Scottish descent just to clarify.Their ancesters would be classed as WASPS.I wouldnt class regular Irish people and in particular Irish nationalists or their descendents as WASPS though and i say that as someone who has Irish relatives myself.The Irish understandably so were always opposed to the WASP elite and all cultural pusuits and behaviour associated with the WASPS.But that may have changed.

The WASPS are generally not liked by all ethnic groups,even other etnic Whites.WASPS are steoreotyped in the media as bland,boring and lacking in adventure.Even when i watch Australian tv shows their potrayed this way marked by the cunsumption of boring bland food.A WASP dinner would consist of roast beef with dry vegetables.The typical WASP genotype though is the most desired in the world:nod: by non Whites in particular Jews and blacks aswell as orientals.WASPS are physically better looking,taller etc than their Jewish counterparts.Women seemingly of all races prefer guys like Hugh Jackman,Bradley Cooper and the new guy that plays Superman to other types of guys.Jewish men would give their right hand to date someone like Sharon Stone who actually married some ugly Jewish media mogul but they since got divorced.

Tall goodlooking,intelligent well spoken young Whites are dismissively refered to as preppy and snobs by outside groups as if having them qualities are so bad in this upside down world so alot of it is based on old fashioned envy.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

WASP rules! :icon_wink:

[video=youtube;OMJ-A1n951Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJ-A1n951Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Sociologically, the WASPs are seen as once being a very exclusive, mainly upper class group, but growing over time to include pretty much all Whites. Many sociologists admit that WASPs no longer dominate society, although some still see them as a very powerful group that is responsible for much of the ills of society.

 

[white is right]

Sociologically, the WASPs are seen as once being a very exclusive, mainly upper class group, but growing over time to include pretty much all Whites. Many sociologists admit that WASPs no longer dominate society, although some still see them as a very powerful group that is responsible for much of the ills of society.

Yes anybody that doesn't look Big Pussy from the Sopranos or have an obvious ethnic name could be considered WASP. Similar to how George Zimmerman is now a "White" man.

 

[MiamiHeatFan]

Most non-White immigrants have never seen a Jew in their life until coming to America

They expected Jews to look like brown Middle Easterners and not White Europeans.

It is Whites who have lived around Jews for thousands of years and have forgotten what a Jew looks like.

 

[dwid]

I am sorry but guys like Adam Sandler do not look White, and most of the other hollyweird jews. A few can pass off but they are usually half breeds like Seth Rogan, but he constantly reminds us that hes jewish with a jew fro. McLovin in that movie Superbad, definitely jewish looking. There are some that look White but many who aren't. They have semetic features with lighter skin, but when it comes to sports and if they aren't any good they classify themselves as White. Not many athletes. I wonder if that has to do with their history and their way of making money.

There was a jewish talk show host going on and on about Riley Cooper and how horrible his hate was and compared it to being jewish and how he can't watch Mel Gibson anymore. Then went on to say that RIley Cooper should accept getting to play with blacks as a badge of honor and that he knows that you "can't say that word". Then went to talk about how he himself played with blacks at a small college and was the "unathletic white boy"

 

[Average American]

It makes no sense to me why so many people believe White Anglo-Saxon Protestants are a dominant group in the USA.

There are far fewer influential people of WASP heritage than Jewish, Irish, Scottish, or Italian ancestry.
Wouldn't it be more accurate to consider Jews to be the dominant group in America?

I concur with the earlier thoughts.. the WASP has become a comical (& negative) stereotype. A lifeless, arrogant blue-blood who spends the day @ the country club hatching racist schemes..
Some WASPs, fit that bill, but millions of average American WASPs don't fit into that mold.

But by the same token, you're going @ Jews with the same insulated perceptions that are aimed @ WASPs.. Broadly classifying Jews as the dominant group in America isn't accurate. You could cite individual Jews who you see or feel have a disproportionate (and negative) influence on our society (or in specific professions) fair enough,.. but the implied idea that (all) Jews are in THE dominant group doesn't make sense.
Jews live in a religious minority, population minority, a political minority (in terms of numbers of elected officials.)

In my opinion, ppl who assign unusually evil/nefarious powers to 'the Jews', are no different than ppl who try to broadly demonize & slander all Whites & WASPs with a strictly negative mythology (?)

 

[Charles Martel]

ppl who try to broadly demonize & slander all Whites & WASPs with a strictly negative mythology

But don't you think those who control the media, even if they are a small 2.4% of the population, are in a better position to "demonize & slander" other groups?

 

[DixieDestroyer]

But don't you think those who control the media, even if they are a small 2.4% of the population, are in a better position to "demonize & slander" other groups?

Not to mention their control of "Hellyweird", Madiscum Avenue & the Central Banking Cartel.

While I don't believe das juden 'control everything', one can certainly witness judeo-bolshevik influence all over (jaded) 'modern' society...especially on the TalmudVision, movie theaters & magazine racks, etc.

 

[Freethinker]

Not to mention their control of "Hellyweird", Madiscum Avenue & the Central Banking Cartel.

While I don't believe das juden 'control everything', one can certainly witness judeo-bolshevik influence all over (jaded) 'modern' society...especially on the TalmudVision, movie theaters & magazine racks, etc.

100% agree.

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

 

[Average American]

But don't you think those who control the media, even if they are a small 2.4% of the population, are in a better position to "demonize & slander" other groups?

Of course, an individual Jew, in a position of power at a studio, or network has more power than the average person to demonize a group of ppl, or idea/political view he doesn't like. But because that studio head, or director, etc is Jewish, does not mean his sin falls on every member of his ethnic group.
That's all my point is.. Criticize & boycott an individual/studio. But (to me) to group (or indict) an entire ethnicity is unfair & superstitious. I don't like it when ppl do it to us as Whites, so I try not to do it broadly & indiscriminately against others.
There are plenty of perverted Gentiles working in the media as well, but I don't bear responsibility for their ideas & acts because they're in the same ethnic group as me, do I.. should I be lumped in with dopes like Chris Matthews (?)

 

[Matra2]

Of course, an individual Jew, in a position of power at a studio, or network has more power than the average person to demonize a group of ppl, or idea/political view he doesn't like. But because that studio head, or director, etc is Jewish, does not mean his sin falls on every member of his ethnic group.
That's all my point is.. Criticize & boycott an individual/studio. But (to me) to group (or indict) an entire ethnicity is unfair & superstitious. I don't like it when ppl do it to us as Whites, so I try not to do it broadly & indiscriminately against others.
There are plenty of perverted Gentiles working in the media as well, but I don't bear responsibility for their ideas & acts because they're in the same ethnic group as me, do I.. should I be lumped in with dopes like Chris Matthews (?)

Oh, I bet you think that Matthews comment was a real zinger! Matthews did not arrive on the scene until decades after the US had already become a Jewish dominated society. Heck, the likes of Franz Boas had been dead for half a century before Matthews got his TV show. Why is it that "perverted Gentiles" were not all over the media until long after the society's dominant ethnic group were no longer Wasps? Your entire comment is trite. You need to go back to the pre-war days and study how this society came about.

 

[Average American]

Oh, I bet you think that Matthews comment was a real zinger! Matthews did not arrive on the scene until decades after the US had already become a Jewish dominated society. Heck, the likes of Franz Boas had been dead for half a century before Matthews got his TV show. Why is it that "perverted Gentiles" were not all over the media until long after the society's dominant ethnic group were no longer Wasps? Your entire comment is trite. You need to go back to the pre-war days and study how this society came about.

No I'm not trying to zing people. I'm saying ethnic groups contain individuals. Imo, it's a simple minded world-view to hold an entire ethnic group responsible for the acts of specific individuals within it. All whites are not wiggers, all Whites are not WASPs.. to reduce all Whites to single monolith is unfair & inaccurate, same goes for Jews.
Liberal & perverted studio execs (& members of the news media) are a tiny % of the total Jewish population, so I view them in that context..

To answer your question, those perverted Gentiles ( I reference) were always in America, but they were met w/righteous resistance from other White Americans... most of those kind of zealously defensive Americans don't exist anymore. That's our real problem, our own internal decay.. which may just be an unfortunate part of the cycle of civilizations. In the "pre-war days", American families weren't as interested in 'mass media', which was much less influential & far-reaching anyways (no television, but still newspapers were still fiefdoms held/controlled by very powerful individuals who allowed little deviation from their individual worldview, like Hearst)
Primarily, people back then, formed their world-view on what their mom & dad taught 'em. That can still be done if you keep your family intact & we don't let the tv babysit our kids. Most people now are unfortunately, joyfully complicit in consuming a lot of the media/entertainment garbage, and then blame it on the 'media', or Jews at large.. it's dumb and weak.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

Most people now are unfortunately, joyfully complicit in consuming a lot of the media/entertainment garbage, and then blame it on the 'media', or Jews at large.. it's dumb and weak.

Do you honestly not understand that "Jews" control the media/entertainment garbage? If you dont understand that, brother, you got a lot of learning to do. I remember I use to think just like you.

I dont think anyone here on CF actually blames all jews for all the worlds problems. Still we have to be willing to admit that without them we would be much, MUCH better off.

 

[Don Wassall]

No I'm not trying to zing people. I'm saying ethnic groups contain individuals. Imo, it's a simple minded world-view to hold an entire ethnic group responsible for the acts of specific individuals within it. All whites are not wiggers, all Whites are not WASPs.. to reduce all Whites to single monolith is unfair & inaccurate, same goes for Jews.
Liberal & perverted studio execs (& members of the news media) are a tiny % of the total Jewish population, so I view them in that context..

To answer your question, those perverted Gentiles ( I reference) were always in America, but they were met w/righteous resistance from other White Americans... most of those kind of zealously defensive Americans don't exist anymore. That's our real problem, our own internal decay.. which may just be an unfortunate part of the cycle of civilizations. In the "pre-war days", American families weren't as interested in 'mass media', which was much less influential & far-reaching anyways (no television, but still newspapers were still fiefdoms held/controlled by very powerful individuals who allowed little deviation from their individual worldview, like Hearst)
Primarily, people back then, formed their world-view on what their mom & dad taught 'em. That can still be done if you keep your family intact & we don't let the tv babysit our kids. Most people now are unfortunately, joyfully complicit in consuming a lot of the media/entertainment garbage, and then blame it on the 'media', or Jews at large.. it's dumb and weak.

You're right that a lot of good Americans resisted the takeover as best they could for as long as they could. But the onslaught continued coming from all directions in ever increasing amounts, and the revolutionaries eventually wore down the opposition to the Cultural Communist takeover. The subversives are ruthless and relentless.

I see the same thing in miniature on this site in the high number of solid posters who apparently "burn out" or become demoralized and are never heard from again. If many of them had stuck around, combined with the many good posters that are here now, Caste Football might have been able to expand, e.g. with a radio show, and perhaps even hire a part-time or full-time reporter. As it is, we're always treading water, gaining a few new quality posters, but also losing a few quality posters. My long-standing observation is that racially aware Whites for the most part lack the stamina and determination needed to create an effective opposition to the PTB, and even fewer are willing to make sacrifices to bring about change, which is a reflection of how successfully we have been weakened as a people.

 

[Europe]

"That can still be done if you keep your family intact & we don't let the tv babysit our kids. Most people now are unfortunately, joyfully complicit in consuming a lot of the media/[COLOR=#009900 !important]entertainment[/COLOR] garbage, and then blame it on the 'media', or Jews at large.. it's dumb and weak."

I think you will learn most of the same multicultural ideas from most churches nowadays.. The Catholic Church is big on immigration and anti-discrimination one world ideas.