Who wins? UFC or Boxing?

Who is the better fighter, the boxer or the UFC fighter?

  • UFC everytime

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  • Boxer everytime

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  • Sherk over Mayweather

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  • Mayweather over Sherk

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  • Depends on the fighters.

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jaxvid

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Interesting article below about who would win in a fight, a boxer (Floyd Mayweather) or a UFC champ (Sean Sherk). I would have to lean towards the UFC fighter, because they are fighting by his rules. What do you think?

Ultimate challenge for Mayweather?

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
April 18, 2007

Floyd Mayweather stands almost 5-foot-9, weighs 154 pounds, has a 72-inch reach and can drop most mortals with a single swing of either hand.

He's fast, athletic and dodges punches as well as anyone, maybe ever. In 13 world title fights, he won all 13. His next one is May 5 in Las Vegas, this time as a junior middleweight, against Oscar de la Hoya, as big a fight as boxing has seen in years.

His nickname may be "Pretty Boy," but he is one bad, bad man.

On Cinco de Mayo we'll find out if the heavily-favored Mayweather can beat de la Hoya - but could he beat a snarling, menacing, multi-skilled champion of the Ultimate Fighting Championship?

How about lightweight (155 pound) champ Sean Sherk, who may stand just 5-foot-6, may suffer from a distinct reach disadvantage, but as a mixed martial arts master is schooled in "interdisciplinary forms of fighting that include jiu-jitsu, judo, karate, boxing, kickboxing, wrestling."

Could the best pound-for-pound fighter in the old combat sport (boxing) handle a champion in the new combat sport (UFC)?

"UFC's champions can't handle boxing. That's why they are in UFC." Mayweather said Tuesday from Las Vegas during a break in training. "Put one of our guys in UFC and he'd be the champion. Any good fighter, he'd straight knock them out."

Dana White, a one-time boxer and boxing instructor and current UFC president, laughs at that.

"Boxers couldn't become mixed martial artists. That's why they're boxers," White countered Wednesday from England where UFC has an event Saturday. "They are one trick ponies. Our guys can do everything. They can box, they can kick box, they can wrestle and do jiu-jitsu. They are much better athletes than boxers."

Mayweather may be right, but he'd have to be. Any boxer stepping into the UFC octagon would have to knock his opponent out before the mixed martial artist got a hold of him, because once the fight fell to the mat, where things get nasty, the boxer is all but finished.

But, as Mayweather points out, the often (by boxing standards) clumsy and lead-with-their-face UFC guys would have to walk through a hail of vicious jabs, crosses and hooks to get there.

"Take Chuck Liddell," Mayweather said of the UFC's biggest star and light heavyweight champion (about 205 pounds). "Put him in the ring with a (boxer) who is just 10-0 and Chuck Liddell would get punished."

So you'd punish a UFC champion, too?

"Come on, man. What'd you think? Am I just 10-0?"

Mayweather is 37-0.

Liddell, with six inches and 50 pounds on Mayweather, isn't possible, but someone like Sherk, someone his size? With that insane reach, unreal punching power and by UFC rules aided by small, light 4-ounce gloves would Mayweather carve up Sherk instantly? Or would Sherk fight throughout the barrage and get Mayweather in a clutch no ref will save him from?

"They wouldn't have a chance to grapple (us) because we'd knock them out," Mayweather said in general. "(The fighter) would be knocked out before he even touched us."

Of course, perhaps no punch is strong enough to stop a charging opponent.

No one really knows what would happen at such an elite level.

"I used to talk like Floyd Mayweather when I was involved in boxing," White said. "I talked just like him, until I educated myself about this sport. These guys are amazing athletes, Floyd Mayweather is one of the best boxers ever, (and) Sean Sherk will whoop his ass in under two minutes."

"Any day that Mayweather wants to put his money and his ass where his mouth is, I'm ready," White continued. "If he wants to step up, let's do it."

First off, Mayweather was talking mostly in general about his disdain for UFC - "Boxing is an art, UFC is a fad." But Mayweather has spent almost as much time this spring ripping UFC as de la Hoya, who he seems to consider as little more than a matinee idol useful for only increasing the purse.

"I never knew popularity to win any fight," Mayweather said. "I'll beat him and come home and watch basketball."

The UFC, though, is clearly on his mind. He brought it up on his own Tuesday. Earlier this month he cracked that "anyone can put a tattoo on their head and get in a street fight."

Mayweather may be a talker - loquacious doesn't begin to describe the 30-year-old - but he isn't dumb. So maybe he is setting up another big pay day in the event he dusts de la Hoya and boxing has little to offer. Or maybe he just wants to promote a fight involving others.

Of course, the economics of UFC would have to change to get Mayweather to participate. UFC fighters make a fraction of top boxers. As part of the family business, Mayweather, his dad and his uncle handle all aspects of his career. For the de la Hoya fight he'll earn millions.

"Why would I go into a sport paying hundreds of thousands when I'm in a sport paying $20 million?" Mayweather said.

Mayweather knows full well, though, that the pay per view money is there for the taking on something like this, a battle that would be intriguing at nearly every level. White would just about kill for this to go down, preferably with Mayweather involved as a fighter.

"I'm willing to put together a fight for Sean Sherk and Floyd Mayweather with numbers that would make sense for Floyd," White said. "And I guarantee you he would not accept it. Floyd Mayweather would never fight in the UFC because he would get his head ripped off."

Yes, he would. But only if Sherk didn't get his head ripped off first.
 

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Sherk over Mayweather, but it depends on the fighters. There are guys in the UFC that would be KO'd by Mayweather before they could take him down; but Sherk isn't one of them. There are a lot of guys in the UFC who earn their money with their stand-up, and in such an exchange Mayweather or any decent boxer would knock them out first, especially with 4 oz. gloves. But any fairly seasoned grappler or wrestler should be able to shoot in, get a takedown, and probably win by RNC after the boxer gives his back to keep from getting punched and elbowed in the face.
 

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In order to throw your punches effectively as a boxer you have to plant your feet and maintain your balance. As soon as Mayweather planted his feet Sherk would shoot in like a rocket, take him down and beat him senseless.
 

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Mayweather is very quick and has good reflexes, so he could step away from him for a while. But when he gets close enough to land a punch, Sherk will grab a leg, and no amount of footwork and hand speed is going to get him out of that one!
 

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Cheap, cheap words with no consequences. A monkey in a tree tossing his feces at lions.

I'm going to tell you this, and maybe some of you will laugh, but not only could most decent MMA fighters destroy Floyd in a street fight, I imagine there are men BROWSING THIS FORUM who could do the same. Boxing is interesting sport, and fun to watch. It's also highly artificial, fencing with fists instead of swords. The human hand is a bad weapon, that's why Austrolpithicus picked up a stick and why historically most combative systems used by serious warriors have focused on grappling. The singular prerequisite for using your fists to win in MMA (whose effectiveness is highly augmented by being wrapped and sheathed in a glove) is the ability to stop takedowns. Chuck Liddell is the champ because of his great wrestling pedigree/takedown defense, and his ability to end matters with one precise shot (not a flurry or combo, by the time you get off 3, the wrestler has a hold on you), not because he'd win any boxing matches on points.
 

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WS, I agree with you. Unless a boxer has at least some ground/grappling know-how or take-down defense, someone with basic 101 wrestling skills, and ground fighting/submission could whip a boxer's @$$. A kickboxer would be a bit more difficult, but if all a boxer has is just punching prowess...a MMA-skilled fighter would beat the daylights out of him everytime. That was proven in the early UFC cards in the early-mid 90s. Sherk would hand Merriweather his @$$ no doubt. Edited by: DixieDestroyer
 

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Even the poorest of boxers are able to achieve a clinch sometime in a match against world champion boxers. It's ridiculuous to think that MMA fighters wouldn't be able to achieve even one clinch - and one clinch is all they would need. Heck, even straight-up wrestlers would most likely win in an MMA match with a boxer. This proved to be true in the early UFCs. Boxers were a joke.
 

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If what Mayweather says is true then why don't boxers who are good but don't get big money fights go over to UFC and clean up the cash there? That would mean that the UFC should be dominated by boxers who just throw punches and KO every opponant for quick paydays. He mentioned anyone 10-0 should beat UFC fighters well there are a whole lot of 10-0 guys not pulling down good paydays in boxing and they ain't fighting in the UFC.
 

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Kaptain Poop said:
Even the poorest of boxers are able to achieve a clinch sometime in a match against world champion boxers. It's ridiculuous to think that MMA fighters wouldn't be able to achieve even one clinch - and one clinch is all they would need.

Great point. And Mayweather must think that MMA fighters are so weak-chinned that it would only take one or two punches to KO them. Uh, these guys take knees, kicks, and elbows!

And great point about the 10-0 seeking the big payday, Jaxvid. Mayweather knows that not every boxer makes millions of dollars like he does.
 

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Mayweather isn't even a devastating puncher. So he doesn't even have punchers chance. For boxer to beat an MMA guy he would have to be like a prime Tyson and land a temple shot right away. If he couldn't he would be engulfed by a MMA guy....
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jaxvid said:
If what Mayweather says is true then why don't boxers who are good but don't get big money fights go over to UFC and clean up the cash there? That would mean that the UFC should be dominated by boxers who just throw punches and KO every opponant for quick paydays. He mentioned anyone 10-0 should beat UFC fighters well there are a whole lot of 10-0 guys not pulling down good paydays in boxing and they ain't fighting in the UFC.
It seems like a bunch of shot hasbeens have been fighting in K1 and having mixed results. K1 is more like kickboxing with knees though.
 

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White_Savage said:
A monkey in a tree tossing his feces at lions.
A classic.
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I'll go one step farther. Mayweather would get his ass handed to him by a muay thai practitioner also. Take someone like Duane Ludwig and throw Mayweather in there with him. What good are those legs going to do Mayweather after about a dozen screaming Thai low kicks are planted on his thigh.
 

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Mark Hominick at 145 lbs would be a good matchup for Mayweather. I wonder how "Pretty mouth" Floyd would handle an elbow to the teeth or some knee's in the clinch.
 

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Boxing is a brutal sport but it is like playimg paddycakes compared to MMA. I love to see Wlad and our other white brothers KO all challengers, but I would say he would be destroyed by Fedor. If my humble opinion, Fedor is the baddest man that would crush any boxer or other fighter from any time period in hand to hand combat.
 

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drk77, "Prettymouth" Floyd...ROTFLMAO!!!
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