Welkers wife on Ray Lewis

[davidholly]

wait, what makes Doug Flutie not White?

He had a Lebanese Christian grandparent, big whoop if you ask me there's plenty of people with even more Lebanese Christian ancestry than him who I'd consider white.

 

[white is right]

Below is a picture of Anna with her father, Richard Burns...

I believe this is Mr. Burns with his non-white grandson...

Compare this to Wes with his family...

Like Don said, who Welker marries is his business, however, I don’t think anyone here was speaking ill of him for choosing this particular woman. Over the past 5-6 years, Wes has done more good for white athletes than almost any other NFL player. Personally, if I were in his shoes, I’d choose a hot white woman who wasn’t racially ambiguous… someone who looked more like me and my family. Given Welker’s work environment, I’m sure he has countless black friends and, like most white American athletes, isn’t racially conscious whatsoever. Like Tedy Bruschi, Johnny Damon, Doug Floutie, Matt Khalil, Sam Bradford, Greg Camarillo, Lolo Jones, Derek Moye, Roger Robinson, Rob Housler, and so many others we've discussed...she comes close to passing the “eye test†of the masses, but not racially conscious whites.

I think she might be Melungeon. From the photos I have seen of her father many Melungeons look like him. If he is from the south I would place a small wager on that. Granted his tanned complexion could well be a tan who knows....

 

[Gibbon]

Full respect to you and your opinion but I see no problem with his wife and I would consider her as "white". To an extent, ideas need to change with the times, and I do think it's appropriate in this day and age to consider some non-European people as being white.

Brother, full respect to you as well. I don't consider myself a Nordicist per se. I just think that the world and civilization would benefit by breeding "toward white" rather than away from it. The Nordic type in my view being the "most white" (BTW I would consider myself an Alpine/Nordic admixture). To use the parlance, I definitely have love for my Mediterranean, Alpine brothers. Whites certainly need to unite regardless of these relatively small difference. We are one race.

And the terrible truth is I don't dislike any of the races, Jew, Black, Asian or otherwise. The "Civilizational tendency" though is achieved by breeding toward white, IMHO. If individuals choose non-whites as their love partners, I have no problem with that on an individual, micro-level. It's the marco-level that concerns me.

I bet Wes loves his wife and that's beautiful. I mean that sincerely. And she is beautiful. What that means on a marco/civilizational level is a different story.

I hope I haven't offended anyone.

Thank you, Don, for creating such an interesting site.

 

[Gibbon]

Well, ideas and rationales change and evolve over time.

Full respect to you and your opinion but I see no problem with his wife and I would consider her as "white". To an extent, ideas need to change with the times, and I do think it's appropriate in this day and age to consider some non-European people as being white.

And changing or being very liberal with the definition of White is a bad move in my view. It's a slippery slope. By following this logic, even Sweden would eventually look like France, then Greece, then Portugal, then Columbia, then Africa (if, in fact, any post-civilizational colony of humans that far north could even remain under those conditions), then, very likely China (if it doesn't look like China earlier - because, unlike us, the Asians don't mess around). No problem with the French (I have significant French ancestry) or Greeks or any of my European kin or really any of the afore mentioned. Some of my best friends...as the saying goes.

But no reason for the Swedes to disappear from the earth. One is not a Nordic supremicist simply because he doesn't want this type to go extinct.

Again, mutual respect to you and your opinion. I enjoy your boxing write ups.

 

[Tannehill17]

wait, what makes Doug Flutie not White?

There are a lot of Nordic supremacists who believe anyone who isn't completely of 100% European ancestry isn't white which I think is a bunch of BS. I happen to have some Turkish ancestry but I'm not a Muslim (I'm Mormon) and I clearly have the physical appearance of a white man (complete with blue eyes) I consider myself to be white, I conduct myself like a white man and that is what matters.

 

[frederic38]

And changing or being very liberal with the definition of White is a bad move in my view. It's a slippery slope. By following this logic, even Sweden would eventually look like France, then Greece, then Portugal, then Columbia, then Africa (if, in fact, any post-civilizational colony of humans that far north could even remain under those conditions), then, very likely China (if it doesn't look like China earlier - because, unlike us, the Asians don't mess around). No problem with the French (I have significant French ancestry) or Greeks or any of my European kin or really any of the afore mentioned. Some of my best friends...as the saying goes.

But no reason for the Swedes to disappear from the earth. One is not a Nordic supremicist simply because he doesn't want this type to go extinct.

Again, mutual respect to you and your opinion. I enjoy your boxing write ups.

it's too late
very few french people are more than 50% french nowadays
in sweden it seems to be the same way too

 

[Gibbon]

it's too late
very few french people are more than 50% french nowadays
in sweden it seems to be the same way too

It certainly is too late if that is what people insist on believing.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Brother, full respect to you as well. I don't consider myself a Nordicist per se. I just think that the world and civilization would benefit by breeding "toward white" rather than away from it. The Nordic type in my view being the "most white" (BTW I would consider myself an Alpine/Nordic admixture). To use the parlance, I definitely have love for my Mediterranean, Alpine brothers. Whites certainly need to unite regardless of these relatively small difference. We are one race.

Thank you, and I fully agree with what you write here!

I hope I haven't offended anyone.

Oh, absolutely not. Your comments have been very polite, thoughtful, and endearing. Thank you for that.

One of the great things I find about this site is that there is sufficient room for polite and civil disagreement. Personally, some of my racial views contrast with some of the other users on this site. And that's totally OK. Not everyone, even on a site like this, among "racially aware" whites will agree on every single detail. There are some people who are going to have different racial opinions, and that's OK, as long as they fit into the general narrative of the site - which is supporting white athletes.

My only point is that using a narrower definition (ie only Europeans, or only certain, pure Europeans) of "white" effectively excludes large portions of people from this site (and white awareness movements in general), myself included, because I have some darker features, even though I am fully Southern European white, and consider myself 100% white. If we want some kind of strength, or power within white race and white movement, wouldn't it be better to broaden our definition slightly, because then we would be stronger and reaching a larger audience with this white awareness movement?

Some people have "one drop against being white" views that only North Western Europeans are pure white, in that case, quite literally, the global population of whites would be only 200 or 300 million, at that rate, many (more than half) of the athletes we cheer for on this site, wouldn't even be considered "white". As I pointed out, its only within the last 50 to 100 years that Russians and Italians have began to be considered white. Some people might even want to go back to that viewpoint. In my opinion, I would say this kind of thinking hurts white people and this movement.

Personally, I would extend the definition of white further and count all ethnic Europeans, and even count some fair skinned Middle Easterners, and fair skinned South Americans as being white on an individual basis. That's my own personal opinion though.

Someone in this thread earlier noted that Hitler himself, who is largely viewed as a white supremacist, allowed Germans to be considered "white" even if they had 25% certain nonwhite heritage. So Hitler's own view (to give an example of a noted racialist from history) on race was slightly "open door", and I feel that is appropriate viewpoint even today.

That's one of the problems with the term "white people" is that its totally subjective and has changed its definition many times in history. I prefer to use the term "fair skinned" or "Caucasian" because they are more direct.

Granted, I am sure that you have a different opinion. And that's totally OK.

Cheers to you and I also enjoy reading your posts in boxing! I also understand your viewpoint that you wish to see Sweden remain Swede so to speak, that is completely understandable and I largely agree