Vanderjaat/Vanderjerk?

[bigunreal]

I can't believe how quick the lame, wanna be comedians are to attack
any white athlete who shows a fraction of the arrogance and outspoken
bravado that almost EVERY black player shows week after week. Colts K
Mike Vanderjaat is being skewered in the media, and by fans on internet
football discussion forums, for his controversial and unwise comments
about the Patriots. What he said is nothing compared to the egotistical
drivel spewed forth constantly by the likes of Deion Sanders, Michael
Irvin, Warren Sapp and a black cast of thousands over the years. None
of them were ever criticized for any of their inane comments.
Vanderjaat is even being more soundly condemned that infantile jerk
Randy Moss, whose latest distasteful display should have been
considered a slightly more heinous offense than Vanderjaat's
comments.

 

[Kaptain]

I can't see what was wrong with what he said. The patriots are "ripe for the picking". Espn has been airing stuff about how their starting cornerbacks are out. He is just pointing out the obvious. Why are kickers basically told to "shut-up" . They are more important than the majority of players who complain about them and they're IQ is probably higher too.

 

[Don Wassall]

Not only are white kickers supposed to know their place, Vanderjagt is already on "probation" for remarks he made on a Canadian sports radio talk show following the '02 season. He criticized Peyton Manning's leadership skills, but more importantly he also was critical of Tony Dungy, a saintly figure who is never criticized in the corporate media. Vanderjagt said both needed to be more vocal and demonstrative.

In response, the media spread the rumour that Vanderjagt was "drunk" when he spoke, something echoed by Manning. Vanderjagt has always strongly denied it, but the media has the power to create negative perceptions about people whether they are true or not.

The media loves to blow up any miniscule mis-step by a white athlete. It's just like yesterday, I look in the sports section of my newspaper and there's a prominently placed story, picture and headline about Randy Johnson -- "Johnson Has Altercation With Cameraman." By the importance given to it, one would have thought Johnson slugged the guy and then followed it up by stabbing him, which is what a black athlete would have had to have done to get an equivalent amount of coverage. Instead he just wanted him out of his face. Understandable, but not the best PR move in New York, yet hardly a "crime" worthy of screaming headlines.

 

[bigunreal]

What's really obvious is the fact that this white kicker is given a
negative nickname like "Vanderjerk," when there is no example I can
think of where a black player has been dubbed publicly in such a
demeaning way. That's really ironic, and illuminating, when we consider
that black athletes have a virtual monopoly on nicknames
these days.

 

[Don Wassall]

Excellent point about the nicknames, Bigunreal.

I've been thinking for a while now about white kickers and the caste system, and I believe the white monopoly at this position benefits the current system. I've never heard a racially conscious white person make a positive comment about how all the kickers are white other than in a joking, self-deprecating kind of way, like they would if any other position in football was all white (other than long snapper). No one takes any particular pride in it.

That would seem to be because the white kicker looks out of place on a football team, almost comically so at times. In soccer the same white monopoly would be a real asset in refuting false claims of "black athletic superiority," but in football what we have symbolically is the scrawny white kicker, and then the "real" football players, the big, tough black guys. It actually reinforces the basic propaganda line of the caste system.

The kickers represent the white loser, the dork, the open object of contempt on the team. When he makes a kick he rarely gets credit, because that's what he's supposed to do. But when he misses a short field goal attempt, or shanks a punt . . . look out!

Vanderjagt went the entire 2003 season without missing a field goal attempt. He had the greatest season at his position ever yet has earned no respect for it. He, like all placekickers and punters, is supposed to act the role of a step n' fetch it, thrilled just to be on the team. Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[IceSpeed]

Most of this stuff is just hype between the Pats/Colts. I believe
Rodney Harrisson made the nickname up. Teams make fun of each
other. If Vanderjaat were black,( the NFL's ethnic cleansing and
dreams of total black supremacy would be nearly complete), and he would
have gotten the same Vanderjerk nickname.



What was he doing a couple of years ago when he called Peyton Manning, "soft"

 

[bigunreal]

I have to disagree with you. I don't think any black player would be
given a nickname like "Vanderjerk." You might be able to count
"Meshawn" as a nickname for Keyshawn Johnson, but to my knowledge
that's only been used on fantasy football message boards (and there are
a lot more negative nicknames on those boards for white players).
Other than that, I can't think of a single black athlete who's been
given a derogatory nickname.

 

[IceSpeed]

A lot of black players do not need nicknames to be insulted. They
should be insulted by the names and spellings their parents gave
them. Edgerrin, LaDanian, KeJuan, and many other wierd
names. Are Edgerrin and LaDanian French?



Attention all parents, Antoine is note spelt A-N-T-W-A-N, A-N-T-O-W-A-Y-N-E, or A-N-T-W-O-N.



I think these players' real names reflects the high illiteracy rate
among African Americans in this nation, and this should be an insult
enough.



In conclusion, they do not need negative nicknames since their real names are negative.

 

[Guest]

why used african american.

you say black the whole message and give us this pc bs. shame on you

 

[speedster]

The term african-american means a black person,but it does not make sense.For example,a white guy born and raised in the continent of Africa,say South Africa or Zimbabwe,moves to the United States,lives there for a bit and becomes an American citizen.So in fact he becomes african-american and is far more african then any black-american who probably couldn't fined Africa on the map.Somebody didn't think this threw.

 

[IceSpeed]

I made a mistake to use African American. I meant to refer
strickly to the black Americans rather than around the world.
Also, I did not want you all to think that the African names of some
players were the ones I was making fun of. I was making fun of
made up/misspelled names. Somehow, I figured that term would help
me clarify my point.



Sorry

 

[IceSpeed]

I agree with speedster on the African American term. I know many
South Africans personally and they filled out African American when
applying for college. Some pretty funny stuff happened.

 

[speedster]

I saw the interview that Rodney Harrison gave when he used the name Vanderjerk to describe the Colts kicker.He said that Vanderjerk put his foot in his mouf.Mouf?When are these guys going to learn to speak properly.Oh,I forgot Harrison was speaking ebonics.

 

[IceSpeed]

He, ever see Ty Law talk. He is worse. How can they give
these guys(Irvin, Sanders, etc.) commentating jobs when they can barely
speak.