US Army leaders: Too White, Too Male

[j41181]

Quite among the most ridiculous survey ever...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110308/ap_on_re_us/us_military_diversity

Are they serious? Who and What made the US military the greatest fighting force in world history... WHITE MEN!!

It's strange that a particular career venue (including sports) that is white (and male) dominated, is always targeted for a lack of diversity.

So much jealousy and hatred for the White Man.

 

[Tom Iron]

j41181,

They don't care about such things anymore. Now that we're the only "star wars" nation, they feel they can turn the military into a complete social experiment. This year, they're supposed to put the first women on submarines and they're shortly going to put women in grunt outfits.

Even the idea that there are too many Whites in the officer corps is smoke and mirrors. Obviously, everyone knows they've got to maintain a nucleus of competant White men to make everything seem to work, but they need fewer now because we're changing over to concepts of "fighting," never seen before in history. The whole idea of what is happening is far too much for me, but I think I've got the essentials. It's people like yourselves who understand the particulars much better than me.

Tom Iron...

 

[Dissident]

If I didn't know better, I'd think that these cultural Marxists were deliberately out to destroy this country and it's military. I guess it's just to bad that I do know that's exactly what they're doing!

My feeling is that once they've leveled the economy and they've gotten everyone is dire straights, then that's when they'll make a move on gun ownership. They know desperate people will willingly turn them (guns) in for favors/food.

The assault on our civilization couldn't be more obvious than it is now. How much more blatant can this get. Political correctness is a slow killing poison and a lethal poison at that. It's akin to a cancer that slowly eats away at the very essence of society.

God help us.

 

[Michael]

An article entitled "Report For Congress On Military: "Too Many White Men Dying In Combat"Â￾"

An interesting question that the press has strenuously not interested itself in is: Who has been dying in recent wars? You used to hear all the times that minorities are more likely to get killed in America's wars, but now you never hear anything about the subject.

When I checked on the Iraq War in 2007, American whites, relative to their share of the young population, were getting killed in combat at 1.86 times the rate of nonwhites.

In Afghanistan through 2009, whites were dying at a rate 2.47 times their share of the population of 20-24 year olds.

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2011/03/07/report-for-congress-on-military-too-many-white-men-dying-in-combat/

When they had segregated units it was quickly discovered that blacks didn't fight too well, but they did run away very well. When the units got integrated the blacks kept getting themselves killed when they weren't killing fellow White soldiers, so the blacks complained about the number of blacks killed and that gave the military establishment an excuse to place blacks into support services while loading the combat arms with White troops. But this cause disproportional White causalities and interestedly enough at the early stages of the Iraq War when they were putting pictures of fallen soldiers a lot of troops with "Hispanic" surnames who looked White were shown so White causalities may even be higher. Also, notice how many contractors have been hired to do support services jobs.

Ironically, in the high tech areas of the military White male skills are even more needed then in the old low tech military.If it wasn't for skilled maneuvering by the military establishment a disaster likely would have been the result but as can be seen in what happen on the USS Stout http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13570&title=uss-stout in 2009 it may happen yet. If the frontline combat arms are every broken throw, it likely to be a catastrophe.

 

[foobar75]

Yeah, why don't we destroy our last line of defense, in this case the military, by implementing feminist, affirmative action, and politically correct policies. It's one of the last standing institutions not yet infected with the poison of cultural marxism, so naturally, it cannot be allowed to stand.

 

[FootballDad]

Keep in mind that although this is the stated goal of the cultural marxists, we still have a non-compulsory armed forces, and, frankly, despite their fondest wishes, there aren't a huge amount of gals itching for front-line combat service. Nor are the blacks, Mexicans, insert-your-favorite-minority, either. Sure, they can promote minorities/women/space aliens/whatever to whatever ranking they choose, but the backbone will always be the noble warrior, the white man.

 

[Charlie]

I think elites worry about a military coup. A military too white and too conservative would pose a threat to the current elite. Yet a military not white enough and not conservative enough would be of little use in war.

China has no such worries. The PRC, contrary to popular conceptions, is a fascist rather than a communist state. The only hope to contain China (in Asia at least) is to rearm Japan and encourage militarism and fascism among the little fellers.

Israel tried using women in combat roles. Didn't work because the men would go out of their way, and out of their assignments during combat, to protect the women. Women weren't the problem, but the men in an honorable way were. You would think with so many ardent fans of Israel in Congress this would be common knowledge.

It's claimed the Soviets successfully used women in combat roles. Perhaps, but the Soviets also used blocking units. One of every four Soviet divisions were assigned to kill any retreating Soviet units. This was far beyond any other war-time discipline methods such as Provost Marshalls. Hundreds of thousands of Soviet troops killed by their own comrades. A dictatorship can do things a republic cannot. You could make women serve in combat. You could make men accept it. But the cost would be heavy.

What happens when women are captured? When gang rapes of women soldiers are broadcast over the internet? Would a democracy accept this and continue to support a war? Eggs are always more valuable than sperm. Men have always died in large numbers in war. But women?

 

[jwhite96]

When I was in the Army , it was very obvious the soldiers who were most in harm's way were overwhelmingly white. That was especially true for spec ops. As for Army officers , it is just logical races with low IQs such as blacks, on average , make poor officers. Blacks with above average IQs (over 100) are heavily recruited by top universities .

 

[Tom Iron]

Gentlemen,

As I've said before, we're long into "Star Wars" now. We're going to see more and more robotics from now on. In twenty years (I probably won't be around) there won't be fighter pilots. They're now testing drone fighter planes. We can only imagine what is being tested and thought of behind closed doors. In my own time, they had all sorts of sensors to detect enemy movements. Now we've got night vision and everything else needed to take away an enemies ability to move through the night.

All these so called wars are nothing but what used to be known as training exercises (maneuvers). The ability of the "enemy" to really have an effect on our soldiers is negligable, so it pays to train under real combat conditions. Forget about everything you ever knew or experienced in the service. That's all old hat now.

We're very much in unchartered waters anymore with this stuff.

Tom Iron...

 

[darthvader]

I prefer that no white men or women fight for this military or should I say the "Military Industrial Complex" which is what it really is. That is who these white men and women are fighting for. THE CORPORATIONS. War is a racket said one highly decorated marine officer whose name I forgot. It's a business and maybe the most lucrative one of them all. At the same time we have lost the greatest and brightest of our white men and women going back even to the civil war. My only wish is that when the Afghans finally send the americans home (yes we are going to lose this war)with their tails between their legs like they did with the russians, hopefully the military industrial complex will collapse for good.

 

[Don Wassall]

It was General Smedley Butler who talked about war being a racket back in the 1920s and '30s.


Was skimming through an interview with Deepak Chopra the other day and he was asked why there are not only so many unhappy people in the U.S., but also so many broken and psychologically damaged ones. Chopra responded: "Unless you're lucky, maybe like I lucked out, people are set up for disappointment because we are a dysfunctional society. I've wondered about this a lot and I have a radical theory about it. My theory is that for more than a century, America has been at war. First it was the Civil War, then World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam war, the Iraq war(s), and then the Afghanistan war. We are a country at war with the world and at war with itself. People will say, 'Oh, that was the great American thing, to save the whole world.' What has resulted is a lot of men being absent, dysfunctional families and children growing up with insecurities. When you grow up in a society at war with itself, you come of age with uncertainties and fears, and the result is that many people are lost."


That's far from an all-encompassing answer of course. Cultural Marxism, alienation, atomization, ultra-materialism, the decline of the traditional family and the bonds of church and community, feminism, homosexuality, multiculturalism, the constant inculcation of fear especially in women, etc., the list is quite long. But there's no question Chopra raises an interesting point. The U.S. has been involved in literally hundreds of military interventions, big and small, over the past century, and as the aggressor in almost all of them (some would say every single one of them). We are a country with no natural powerful enemies yet we are always at war, usually in multiple places and now the entire planethas been declareda battlefield by our glorious rulers due to a permanent, undefined, so-called "war on terror."
Other than in some small towns and rural settings, it's very difficult for Americans to feel rooted at all. This truly is a very dysfunctional society, covered up in large part because of each person's obsession with their individual "rat race" to try to be one of the lucky few to better their economic circumstances. Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Very well said, Don. It is pretty sad to see, and even worse to experience first hand.

 

[j41181]

Couldn't agree more with both Darthvader and Don!

IMO, the role of the military should be to maintain peace and order, protect the borders, and NOT to wage wars (or terrorize the citizens). So much money gets wasted in these propaganda driven wars (often for Isreal and this NWO nonsense). Eisenhower made a warning about the Military Industrial Complex in his last speech as President in 1961...

[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY[/TUBE]

So sad why no one heeded his words.

Edited by: j41181

 

[Don Wassall]

I'll take these guysto lay waste toany "multicultural" or non-White unit.

<DIV align=center>An All-White Military Unit

On Monday, we reported that something called the Military Leadership Diversity Commission says the officer corps of the American armed forces is too white and too male. "This problem will only become more acute as the racial, ethnic and cultural makeup of the United States continues to change,"Â￾ the report adds.



A reader has sent us a group photo of the kind of men who go on to become officers. This photo was taken of the Marines of the 3rd Platoon of the 1st Force Recon., an elite unit. The brown-skinned fellows in the upper left are interpreters; everyone else is a useless white male.


The platoon strikes us as pretty formidable-looking unit, but no doubt the Military Leadership Diversity Commission would say it would be a lot more effective with a stiff dose of blacks, Hispanics and, of course, women.

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2011/03/an_all-white_mi.php

 

[Tom Iron]

Gentlemen, I thought you'd like to see this essay I found on AMREN pertaining to the picture. At least, it seems, my beloved Corps is trying to stem the tide of "Diversity," for now anyway.

41 â€" USMC Gunny wrote at 5:16 PM on March 10:
As a Retired Marine with 22 years service, I can write with some authority on this subject. I spent my entire career in the Infantry Field, with a few instructor or special duty assignments along the way. I did this because I wanted to be a Warrior and not some sort of uniformed technician.

The actual war-fighting part of the U.S. Military is heavily White, especially the Special Ops Community. This unit photo you see in the article is not an anomoly, this is pretty standard. Take a look at a unit picture for a Marine Rifle Company, a Special Forces A-Team, a Navy SEAL Platoon, a Company in a Ranger Battalion, none of these units "looks like America"Â￾. White men are doing most of the heavy lifting when it comes to fighting this nation's wars.

On the other hand, when you walk into the Unit Personnel Office, Motor Pool, Supply Warehouse, or any of the "Service and Support"Â￾ arms of the Military you will see they are heavily Black and Hispanic. There is a tendency for many minorities to see the military as just a well-armed civil service job, with cool work clothes. As a rule, they aren't there because of any burning desire to be a member of the Profession of Arms, it's all about paycheck, bennies and job security.

You rarely see much minority representation in Scout/Snipers, Recon or Force Recon, the Navy SEAL or Army Ranger or Special Forces communities. These are all volunteer outfits, key word being "volunteer, you have to suit up and show up first. Just because you show up doesn't make you a part of that outfit, you have to get through the Indoc. Indoc is where they find out who appears to pack the gear they need to make it through training. Most applicants (of all colors) don't make it though Indoc. For those that make it thought Indoc, they still have months of brutally tough training before they are even considered an "entry level"Â￾ Special Operator.

In two of the Rifle Battalions I served in, the Scout/Sniper Platoons that were accused of racism because there were no Black Marines in them. I asked a Scout/Sniper friend of mine what the story was. He shrugged and replied "The dooor's open for them too, just like anyone else, none of them ever show up to take the Indoc"Â￾.

I was a Recruiter for a couple years. Most enlistees have a good chance of being placed in the field they want to go into, as long as they have the test scores for it. Most people end up in the fields where they want to go. I recruited in Western AR and Eastern OK, this was a heavily White region of the country with some Black and Indian population. I never had a single Black applicant who wanted to go into the Combat Arms fields, they always gravitated toward the Service/Support Fields. Most of the White and a lot of Indian kids I worked with wanted to go into the Warrior side of the business. We we seldom had enough Infantry slots to go around for all the kids that wanted them, some had to settle for Artillery, Tanks, Combat Engineers.

The Corps has never conducted Enlisted Recruiting on a racial quota or gender basis. If a kid walked into our office that was mentally, morally and physically qualified to be a Marine and WANTED to be a Marine, we didn't care if he was the color of a baboon's butt, we put him in. One of the Navy Recruiters gave me White kid one time because the lad wanted to join up, NOW, and the Navy guys couldn't touch him because they hadn't put in Black female for the month. That was my first brush with "quota"Â￾ recruiting.

Officer Recruiting is different, the OSO (Officer Selection Officer) is required to recruit Officer Candidates on a basis of Ethnicity. In short, they want an Officer Corps that "looks like America"Â￾ Here is where where a lot of problems occur, quality-wise.

There are huge numbers of Blond haired, blue eyed, exceptionally fit White boys with high test scores, no Police involvement or drug use history, that are dying to be Marine Officers. The OSO has a large number of exceptionally qualified White applicants to choose from and usually rakes in the best of the bunch when filling his "White Quotas"Â￾

Recruiting minority Officer Candidates is problematic. With the way the diversity departments of private sector companies are fighting for qualified minorities, few highly qualified minority applicants are showing up on the OSO's doorstep. If the OSO has 3 "Black Quotas"Â￾ for the year, he may get 1 exceptionally well qualified black applicant, and another 2 that barely make the cut. Sometimes the OSO has to really strive to make sure these guys get through the selection process, due to police involvement, drug use or mediocre test scores.

Once everyone becomes a an Officer Candidate and goes to OCS, the quota system ends. We have to recruit them on a quota basis but there is no graduation quota in place. It's on them to meet the standards required to graduate OCS. Black Candidates have had a higher washout rate at OCS than the other ethnicities. I believe that is due to the fact that we aren't getting their best and brightest. If the same high sandards were applied to recruiting Black Candidates as are applied to the White kids, there wouldn't be the Black washout rate we see.

For those that make it through OCS, they have to put in 3 choices for Occupational Fields while they are in TBS (The Basic School). Most of the White Officers joined to be Infantry Officers, or at least in one of the Combat Arms. Typically, Black Officers opt away from the Combat Arms. During my 22 years of service, I worked with very few Black Infantry Officers, and that number wouldn't come close to the 12% of the population they represent.

When I was a Platoon Sergeant, one of my Platoon Commanders told me that when he was in TBS, the School Staff there had to assign Black Officers to the Combat Arms against their wishes because there weren't enough of them applying for these fields. This was a result of them being prodded from upon high to make our Officer Corps "look like America. Inspite of this practice, there is a dearth of Minority Officers in the Combat Arms Fields.

Anyone who wants the important commands during their career has to come from the Combat Arms. The Corps is not going to assign a Supply Officer to command a Rifle Battalion. A career Data Dink is not going to command a Regiment. An Aviation Maintenence Officer is not going to become Commandant of the Marine Corps. Minority Officers can shy away from combat assignments all they want, but those whose jobs don't include leading Marines in combat are not going to get the important assignments later in their careers.
__________________________

Tom Iron...

 

[Menelik]

Tom Iron

Very true! During my 20+ years in the army, 11M5XV, there were very few blacks in any of the units that I was assigned to except for the 2 years when I was a drill sergeant in a training battalion. Their numbers didn't even come close to the supposed "13%" of their total population.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

The greatest U.S. soldiers (hands down) of all times where ALL White..

Edited by: DixieDestroyer

 

[screamingeagle]

Sargent Yor, Patton, Pershing Smedley Butler, Lejune (?) Ray Davis (?)

You forgot Audie Murphy!Edited by: screamingeagle

 

[DixieDestroyer]

SE, the last feller is the late Lt.Commander Roy Boehm...godfather of the Navy SEALs.

Here's ol' Audie for ye...

Edited by: DixieDestroyer

 

[screamingeagle]

They did heed Ike's words. The result is that we lost the war in Vietnam, Iran, and September 11th.
Listen up you hippie peacenik freaks! Ike wasn't worried about the Military Industrial complex on December 8, 1941. The MIC won WW II and the cold war. In anything we could use more of it.
I am wondering when someone will speak against the Educational industrial complex.We don't need a department of education. Housing and urban debelopment? Another money waster! Who will speak out against the thugs of the civil rights enforcement bureau of the DOJ? Too many honest citizens live in fear of these people. while criminals do not.
Who will speak for us... looks like nobody.

 

[Michael]

They did heed Ike's words. The result is that we lost the war in Vietnam, Iran, and September 11th.
Listen up you hippie peacenik freaks! Ike wasn't worried about the Military Industrial complex on December 8, 1941. The MIC won WW II and the cold war. In anything we could use more of it.
I am wondering when someone will speak against the Educational industrial complex.We don't need a department of education. Housing and urban debelopment? Another money waster! Who will speak out against the thugs of the civil rights enforcement bureau of the DOJ? Too many honest citizens live in fear of these people. while criminals do not.
Who will speak for us... looks like nobody.

The so called military Industrial complex would be a subdivision of the Iron triangle that they teach in political science classes that is the Congress, the bureaucracy (read executive branch) and the lobbyist (read corporations, special interest groups and foreign powers). These are the people looting the U.S. people. The so-called military Industrial complex is a minor part of the lobbyist and the bureaucracy, which since it was singled out indicates that it must be the least important part. As for Vietnam, I can only go by history since the early parts were before my time, but the war appear to have been started so that LBJ could run as both a war and peace candidate and it would push political repercussion of the "Civil Rights act" to the back burner, it worked, but then they didn't want to win but would look weak withdrawing so they fought to lose. If the USA had want they could have lunched a blitzkrieg and conquered North Vietnam but that wasn't part of the New World Order agenda.

As for the Defense of the USA the "elite" view it only good for defending the Zionist and advancing the New World Order. As for all the money spent on "Defense" how come the troops are underpaid and then have to buy their own equipment! As came out under Rumsfeld, much of the money just disappears. The "elite" use the government as their personnel piggy bank and to support their nonwhite pets.

The money paid to the White solders and for their equipment is useful but the "elite" waste their lives protecting the Zionist and advancing the New World Order.Let's face it, the "elite" running the USA will probably destroy the U.S. military with minorities and feminist who will impede the White soldiers ability to fight.

 

[Tom Iron]

Gentlemen,

Are there any sites that you know of that give racial makeup of infantry, arty, elite, outfits in the armed forces?

Tom Iron...

 

[Menelik]

Gentlemen,

Are there any sites that you know of that give racial makeup of infantry, arty, elite, outfits in the armed forces?

Tom Iron...

Couldnt find a breakdown by MOS but I did find this:

http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/docs/demographics/MRA_booklet_10-ARMY.pdf

 

[GiovaniMarcon]

-- because, George C. Scott's speech at the beginning of Patton would have been SOOOOOO much more effective had it been delivered by Eva Longoria or Spike Lee, perhaps with an unbelievably gay karaoke version of the national anthem given "Glee" style.

Soldiers are like firefighters.

The public can harp all it wants about diversity this and opportunity that, but when your house is burning down and it's do you wanna effing live or DIE? they G*ddamnedf**king KNOW who they want to put it out, and it's NOT Laqueesha or Doauvtrell and Jose and Jose and why are there so many Joses...