Ukraine turning into a warzone

[TBProdigy]

[video=youtube;Y_LFrMcoEm4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_LFrMcoEm4[/video]

- In surplus of 20/30,000 Protestors are apparently attempting to march upon parliament
- Police stand between them
- Police today authorized to use firearms

I can only hope the criminals that funded and orchestrated the suffering and misery of thousands of innocent people get tortured and hung for war crimes

 

[Charles Martel]

I'm very saddened that one of my favorite athletes Vitali Klitschko has become a "useful idiot".

 

[TBProdigy]

I'm very saddened that one of my favorite athletes Vitali Klitschko has become a "useful idiot".

I agree, I grew up idolizing Vitali and Wlad which makes this even more depressing.

I however don't think his heart is in the wrong place, he is just not the brightest to begin with and has possibly been influenced by/associated with the wrong people(western journalists, licensing board leftist PC conformists e.t.c)

 

[Don Wassall]

Too few are aware of the important role that U.S.-funded NGOs (non-governmental organizations) play in stirring up strife in countries that Washington has targeted for subversion or dominance, in addition of course to the pressure exerted by the U.S. government itself and "Hollywood culture" (which dominates the internet globally).

Paul Craig Roberts is always a great source of understanding, as well as The Nationalist Times newspaper and the website anunews.net:

US and EU Are Paying Ukrainian Rioters and Protesters
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...ainian-rioters-protesters-paul-craig-roberts/

Russia Under Attack
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/14/russia-attack-paul-craig-roberts/

 

[Charles Martel]

[video=youtube;2tLf-PTAIYU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tLf-PTAIYU&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

 

[Quiet Speed]

Too few are aware of the important role that U.S.-funded NGOs (non-governmental organizations) play in stirring up strife in countries that Washington has targeted for subversion or dominance, in addition of course to the pressure exerted by the U.S. government itself and "Hollywood culture" (which dominates the internet globally).

Paul Craig Roberts is always a great source of understanding, as well as The Nationalist Times newspaper and the website anunews.net:

US and EU Are Paying Ukrainian Rioters and Protesters
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...ainian-rioters-protesters-paul-craig-roberts/

Russia Under Attack
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/14/russia-attack-paul-craig-roberts/

I read the two articles by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts. Was caught off guard by the somewhat gloomy tone in the first one released.

Here he is an interview he did with Alex Jones on the topic:

[video=youtube;YxP9WQPFJPU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxP9WQPFJPU[/video]

 

[Quiet Speed]

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts interview pt 2:

[video=youtube;ZcU2XS55_vg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcU2XS55_vg[/video]

 

[Ambrose]

I'm very saddened that one of my favorite athletes Vitali Klitschko has become a "useful idiot".

I agree. Vitali is looking more and more like a big dummy.

 

[Ambrose]

[video=youtube;2tLf-PTAIYU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tLf-PTAIYU&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

These fools are destroying their own property. All of them do not understand what a government is, what a State is, and who they are.

 

[jaxvid]

I agree that the Ukraine should avoid the siren song of the EU and that the US is meddling in their affairs. I typically side with Russia recently due to their nationalist and conservative stance.

However it it important to understand that the relationship between the two countries is complicated to say the least. The northern part of the country is very Russian having been influenced through closeness of geography and mixing of culture.

The Southern part of the country has historically despised Russia, and with good reason. Stalin's mass starvation of Ukranians is a greater tragedy then the holocaust.

Many in the north speak Russian, in the south, they do not. There are serious rifts in this large country.

Here's an article from takimag that explains it much better then I could. It's a great concise look at the history and make-up of the culture.

http://takimag.com/article/pity_the_poor_ukrainians_scott_locklin#axzz2thcA7jRj

 

[white is right]

I agree that the Ukraine should avoid the siren song of the EU and that the US is meddling in their affairs. I typically side with Russia recently due to their nationalist and conservative stance.

However it it important to understand that the relationship between the two countries is complicated to say the least. The northern part of the country is very Russian having been influenced through closeness of geography and mixing of culture.

The Southern part of the country has historically despised Russia, and with good reason. Stalin's mass starvation of Ukranians is a greater tragedy then the holocaust.

Many in the north speak Russian, in the south, they do not. There are serious rifts in this large country.

Here's an article from takimag that explains it much better then I could. It's a great concise look at the history and make-up of the culture.

http://takimag.com/article/pity_the_poor_ukrainians_scott_locklin#axzz2thcA7jRj

It could be due to the fact that Western Ukraine is really Polish territory. It was ceded to the USSR so that they could get back the territory they lost when Russian the empire fell and the civil war was about commence.

 

[Don Wassall]

Exposed: Ukrainian ‘Protesters’ Backed by Kony 2012-Style Scam

Viral video produced by company linked to ‘regime change’ NGO

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 20, 2014

As they seize weapons, take over government buildings and fire on media outlets, the US-backed Ukrainian protesters are being afforded legitimacy with the aid of a Kony 2012-style viral video which triumphs the grass roots nature of the demonstrations yet is linked to shadowy NGOs that have been directly involved in staging phony ‘color revolutions’ in the past.

The video, entitled I am a Ukrainian, already has over 3 million views. It features an attractive woman insistently claiming that the Ukrainian uprising is solely about freedom and democracy.

The video is typically glib and simplified emotional propaganda which purports to explain that “there is only one reason†behind the protests in Ukraine, a bald faced lie which ignores the multi-faceted geopolitical factors behind the uprising, which center on the tug of war between the United States, the EU and Russia.

The woman encourages viewers to “help us only by telling this story….only by sharing this video,†thereby framing the debate around the naive narrative that the crisis is solely about Ukrainians wanting “freedom,†and in essence blacklisting the real reasons behind the western-instigated revolt, which focus on the geopolitical isolation of Russia.

The origins of the video are not quite as ‘grass roots’ as is portrayed. The clip was produced by the team behind A Whisper to a Roar, a documentary about the “fight for democracy†all over the world, which was funded by Prince Moulay Hicham of Morocco. The “inspiration†behind the documentary was none other than Larry Diamond, a Council on Foreign Relations member. The Council on Foreign Relations is considered to be America’s “most influential foreign-policy think tank†and has deep connections with the U.S. State Department.

Diamond has also worked closely with the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). The National Endowment for Democracy is considered to be the CIA’s “civilian arm†and has been deeply embroiled in innumerable instigated uprisings, attempted coups and acts of neo-colonial regime change since its creation in 1983, including the contrived 2004 “Orange Revolution†that brought US puppet Viktor Yushchenko to power in Ukraine.

Larry Diamond also played an instrumental role in the Arab Spring under the auspices of the NED, a series of supposedly grass roots revolts that were in fact organized and managed by some of the most powerful western institutions on the planet.

Diamond’s connection to the viral “I am a Ukrainian†video clearly suggests that the clip is a crude effort to convince an unthinking public that the Ukrainian uprising is completely organic and is not being instigated by western powers, when the opposite is in fact the case. The clip is reminiscent of the Kony 2012 scam, where a viral video utilized simplified propaganda and emotional manipulation to convince millions of people of the necessity of U.S. military involvement in Africa.

In a Huffington Post interview, the creator of the video admits that he was in Ukraine “preparing a film on democracy†before the protests even started.

Providing absolute confirmation that the video is a carefully thought out public relations stunt, the woman in the video was immediately invited to appear on CNN with Anderson Cooper in a segment that will be broadcast tonight. Cooper and CNN aggressively pushed the Kony 2012 hoax until it fell apart when one of the directors had a public breakdown. Cooper was also heavily involved in promoting the fake “Syria Danny†hoax that relied on staged footage to push for U.S. military intervention in Syria.

With clear evidence of protesters being paid amidst accusations that they were armed by the United States, the narrative behind the Ukraine crisis is clearly more complex than a mere grass roots revolt against corruption. The pro-EU protesters are bizarrely seeking closer ties with a European Union infamous for its institutionalized corruption, malfeasance which costs almost the same each year as Ukraine’s entire GDP.

Many of the activists taking over government buildings in Kiev are also from the Spilna Sprava group, which is an organization funded and supported by billionaire globalist George Soros’ Open Society Institute.

The stage was set for the Ukraine revolt to become violent in December when US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe Victoria Nuland announced that the U.S. would invest $5 billion in order to help Ukrainians achieve “a good form of government.†The true nature of that government was revealed earlier this month when leaked phone conversations emerged of Nuland conspiring with US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt to pick Ukraine’s future puppet leaders, making good on John McCain’s vow to neutralize Russian influence.

Millions of people will never know the truth behind the Ukraine uprising because it is somewhat more complex than an attractive girl making glib statements about freedom and democracy for 2 minutes on a YouTube video. This is how propaganda works – the simpler the better. The video below provides a wider overview of the true agenda behind the crisis.

http://www.infowars.com/exposed-ukrainian-protesters-backed-by-kony-2012-style-scam/

 

[icsept]

Exposed: Ukrainian ‘Protesters’ Backed by Kony 2012-Style Scam

Viral video produced by company linked to ‘regime change’ NGO

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 20, 2014

As they seize weapons, take over government buildings and fire on media outlets, the US-backed Ukrainian protesters are being afforded legitimacy with the aid of a Kony 2012-style viral video which triumphs the grass roots nature of the demonstrations yet is linked to shadowy NGOs that have been directly involved in staging phony ‘color revolutions’ in the past.

The video, entitled I am a Ukrainian, already has over 3 million views. It features an attractive woman insistently claiming that the Ukrainian uprising is solely about freedom and democracy.

The video is typically glib and simplified emotional propaganda which purports to explain that “there is only one reason†behind the protests in Ukraine, a bald faced lie which ignores the multi-faceted geopolitical factors behind the uprising, which center on the tug of war between the United States, the EU and Russia.

The woman encourages viewers to “help us only by telling this story….only by sharing this video,†thereby framing the debate around the naive narrative that the crisis is solely about Ukrainians wanting “freedom,†and in essence blacklisting the real reasons behind the western-instigated revolt, which focus on the geopolitical isolation of Russia.

The origins of the video are not quite as ‘grass roots’ as is portrayed. The clip was produced by the team behind A Whisper to a Roar, a documentary about the “fight for democracy†all over the world, which was funded by Prince Moulay Hicham of Morocco. The “inspiration†behind the documentary was none other than Larry Diamond, a Council on Foreign Relations member. The Council on Foreign Relations is considered to be America’s “most influential foreign-policy think tank†and has deep connections with the U.S. State Department.

Diamond has also worked closely with the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). The National Endowment for Democracy is considered to be the CIA’s “civilian arm†and has been deeply embroiled in innumerable instigated uprisings, attempted coups and acts of neo-colonial regime change since its creation in 1983, including the contrived 2004 “Orange Revolution†that brought US puppet Viktor Yushchenko to power in Ukraine.

Larry Diamond also played an instrumental role in the Arab Spring under the auspices of the NED, a series of supposedly grass roots revolts that were in fact organized and managed by some of the most powerful western institutions on the planet.

Diamond’s connection to the viral “I am a Ukrainian†video clearly suggests that the clip is a crude effort to convince an unthinking public that the Ukrainian uprising is completely organic and is not being instigated by western powers, when the opposite is in fact the case. The clip is reminiscent of the Kony 2012 scam, where a viral video utilized simplified propaganda and emotional manipulation to convince millions of people of the necessity of U.S. military involvement in Africa.

In a Huffington Post interview, the creator of the video admits that he was in Ukraine “preparing a film on democracy†before the protests even started.

Providing absolute confirmation that the video is a carefully thought out public relations stunt, the woman in the video was immediately invited to appear on CNN with Anderson Cooper in a segment that will be broadcast tonight. Cooper and CNN aggressively pushed the Kony 2012 hoax until it fell apart when one of the directors had a public breakdown. Cooper was also heavily involved in promoting the fake “Syria Danny†hoax that relied on staged footage to push for U.S. military intervention in Syria.

With clear evidence of protesters being paid amidst accusations that they were armed by the United States, the narrative behind the Ukraine crisis is clearly more complex than a mere grass roots revolt against corruption. The pro-EU protesters are bizarrely seeking closer ties with a European Union infamous for its institutionalized corruption, malfeasance which costs almost the same each year as Ukraine’s entire GDP.

Many of the activists taking over government buildings in Kiev are also from the Spilna Sprava group, which is an organization funded and supported by billionaire globalist George Soros’ Open Society Institute.

The stage was set for the Ukraine revolt to become violent in December when US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe Victoria Nuland announced that the U.S. would invest $5 billion in order to help Ukrainians achieve “a good form of government.†The true nature of that government was revealed earlier this month when leaked phone conversations emerged of Nuland conspiring with US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt to pick Ukraine’s future puppet leaders, making good on John McCain’s vow to neutralize Russian influence.

Millions of people will never know the truth behind the Ukraine uprising because it is somewhat more complex than an attractive girl making glib statements about freedom and democracy for 2 minutes on a YouTube video. This is how propaganda works – the simpler the better. The video below provides a wider overview of the true agenda behind the crisis.

http://www.infowars.com/exposed-ukrainian-protesters-backed-by-kony-2012-style-scam/

As usual, Infowars only partially identifies the individuals and entities instigating the Ukrainian uprising: George Soros' Open Society Group, Larry Diamond, Victoria Nuland...All Zionist Jews pursuing the Jew World Order.

 

[Don Wassall]

Paul Craig Roberts' latest

Democracy Murdered By Protest — Ukraine Falls to Intrigue and Violence


Who’s in charge? Certainly not the bought-and-paid-for-moderates that Washington and the EU hoped to install as the new government of Ukraine. The agreement that the Washington and EU supported opposition concluded with President Yanukovich to end the crisis did not last an hour. Even the former boxing champion, Vitaly Klitschko, who was riding high as an opposition leader until a few hours ago has been booed by the rioters and shoved aside. The newly appointed president by what is perhaps an irrelevant parliament, Oleksandr Turchynov, has no support base among those who overthrew the government. As the BBC reports, “like all of the mainstream opposition politicians, Mr. Turchynov is not entirely trusted or respected by the protesters in Kiev’s Independence Square.â€

In western Ukraine the only organized and armed force is the ultra-nationalist Right Sector. From the way this group’s leaders speak, they assume that they are in charge. One of the group’s leaders, Aleksandr Muzychko, has pledged to fight against “Jews and Russians until I die.†Asserting the Right Sector’s authority over the situation, Muzychko declared that now that the democratically elected government has been overthrown, “there will be order and discipline†or “Right Sector squads will shoot the bastards on the spot.â€

The bastards are any protesters who dare to protest the Right Sector’s control.

Muzychko declared, “The next president of Ukraine will be from Right Sector.â€

Another Right Sector leader, Dmitry Yarosh, declared: “the Right Sector will not lay down its arms.†He declared the deal made between the opposition and the President to be “unacceptable†and demanded the liquidation of President Yanukovich’s political party.

The Right Sector’s roots go back to the Ukrainians who fought for Adolf Hitler against the Soviet Union during World War 2. It was the Right Sector that introduced armed fighters and turned the tide of the protests in Kiev from peaceful protests in favor of joining the EU to violent attacks on police with the view of overthrowing the democratically elected government, which the Right Sector succeeded in doing.

The Right Sector did not overthrow the Ukraine government in order to deliver it into the hands of the Washington and EU paid “opposition.â€

There is a tendency to discount the Right Sector as a small fringe group, but the Right Sector not only took control of the protests away from the Western supported moderates, as moderate leaders themselves admitted, but also the Right Sector has enough public support to destroy the national monument to the Red Army soldiers who died liberating Ukraine from Nazi Germany.

Unlike the US orchestrated toppling of the stature of Saddam Hussein, which was a PR event for the presstitutes in which Iraqis themselves were not involved, Ukrainian rightists’ destruction of the monument commemorating the Red Army’s liberation of the Ukraine had public support. If the Right Sector hates Russians for defeating the Nazis, the Right Sector also hates the US, France, and England for the same reason. The Right Sector is an unlikely political party to take Ukraine into the EU.

The Russian parts of Ukraine clearly understand that the Right Sector’s destruction of the monument commemorating the stand of the Red Army against the German troops is a threat against the Russian population of Ukraine. Provincial governments in eastern and southern Ukraine that formerly were part of Russia are organizing militias against the ultra-nationalist threat unleashed by Washington’s stupidity and incompetence and by the naive and gullible Kiev protesters.

Having interfered in Ukraine’s internal affairs and lost control, Washington is now issuing ultimatums to Russia not to interfere in Ukraine. Does the idiot Susan Rice, Obama’s neoconservative National Security Advisor, think Putin is going to pay any attention to her ultimatums or to any instruction from a government so militarily incompetent that it was unable to successfully occupy Baghdad after 8 years or to defeat a few thousand lightly armed Taliban after 12 years? In only took a few hours for Russian troops to destroy the American and Israeli trained and armed Georgian army that Washington sent to invade South Ossetia.

Where does Obama find morons like Susan Rice and Victoria Nuland? These two belong in a kindergarten for mentally handicapped children, not in the government of a superpower where their ignorance and arrogance can start World War 3.

Ukraine is far more important to Russia than it is to the US or EU. If the situation in Ukraine spirals out of control and right-wing extremists seize control, Russian intervention is certain. The arrogant and stupid Obama regime has carelessly and recklessly created a direct strategic threat to the existence of Russia.

According to the Moscow Times, this is what a senior Russian official has to say: “If Ukraine breaks apart, it will trigger a war.†Ukraine “will lose Crimera first,†because Russia “will go in just as we did in Georgia.†Another Russian official said: “ We will not allow Europe and the US to take Ukraine from us. The states of the former Soviet Union, we are one family. They think Russia is still as weak as in the early 1990s but we are not.â€

The Ukrainian right-wing is in a stronger position than Washington’s paid Ukrainian puppets, essentially weak and irrelevant persons who sold out their country for Washington’s money. The Right Sector is organized. It is armed. It is indigenous. It is not dependent on money funneled in from Washington and EU financed NGOs. It has an ideology, and it is focused. The Right Sector doesn’t have to pay its protesters to take to the streets like Washington had to do.

Most importantly, well-meaning but stupid protesters–especially the Kiev students–and an Ukrainian parliament playing to the protesters destroyed Ukrainian democracy. The opposition controlled parliament removed an elected president from office without an election, an obvious illegal and undemocratic action. The opposition controlled parliament issued illegal arrest warrants for members of the president’s government. The opposition controlled parliament illegally released criminals from prison. As the opposition has created a regime of illegality in place of law and constitutional procedures, the field is wide open for the Right Sector. Expect everything the opposition did to Yanukovich to be done to them by the Right Sector. By their own illegal and unconstitutional actions, the opposition has set the precedent for their own demise.

Just as the February 1917 revolution against the Russian Tsar set the stage for the October 1917 Bolshevik Revolution, surprising the stupid “reformers,†the overthrow of the Ukrainian political order has set the stage for the Right Sector. We can only hope that the Right Sector blows its chance.

The American media is a useless news source. It serves as a Ministry for Government Lies. The corrupt propagandists are portraying the undemocratic removal of Yanukovich as a victory for freedom and democracy. When it begins to leak out that everything has gone wrong, the presstitutes will blame it all on Russia and Putin. The Western media is a plague upon humanity.

Americans have no idea that the neoconservative regime of the White House Fool is leading them into a Great Power Confrontation that could end in destruction of life on earth.

Ironic, isn’t it. America’s “first black president,†the person liberals thought would restore justice, morality, and reason to Western civilization, is instead now positioned as the person who will have to accept humiliating defeat or risk the destruction of life on earth.

Sources:

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-right-sector-militants-210/

http://rt.com/news/war-monument-toppled-ukraine-351/

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-acting-president-yanukovich-339/

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-opposition-yanukovich-coup-273/

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/...ight-for-crimea-if-ukraine-splits/495034.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26312008

http://www.channel4.com/news/kiev-svoboda-far-right-protests-right-sector-riot-police

Russian General: “We Are At Warâ€:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/russian-general-we-are-at-war/5370348
February 24 statements by the Russian Foreign Ministry:
http://rt.com/news/russia-ukraine-dictatorial-terror-486/
Russian response to Susan Rice:
http://rt.com/news/russia-usa-rice-advice-450/


http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...ered-protest-ukraine-falls-intrigue-violence/

 

[referendum]

Interesting that it is internationalist globalist forces, which many on this site and elsewhere would label left-wing or Marxist, who are backing the same side as the Right Sector in Ukraine. Also, my guess is that in the last presidential election most of the political forces in Ukraine that came out of the former communist establishment backed Yanukovich in the runoff which he won, and those forces such as Right Sector and others considered on the right were his opponents. This same scenario is at play in Belarus, where the anti-globalist forces are led by politicians considered the inheritors of the Soviet regime. Thus, in these post Soviet lands its the "left-wing" parties that oppose the Mccains, the Cheney's, the Nulands, the Soros's of the world, and the "right-wing" parties that are backed by such globalist neocons.

 

[Quiet Speed]

First time listener to this outfit. Interesting and informative stuff

Ethno News Now - Ukraine!!!

American Nationalist Network


Ethno News Now has maybe the biggest show in our short history tonight. We have Dr David Duke, we have the Chairman of the ANA Mr Rodney Martin, Chris Borsella of the Imperian Mandate and host Robert Lloyd tackling the current revolution going on in the Ukraine. This will be in depth and you will learn the true 'sides' that are fighting for control of this powerful nuclear state.

We will NOT be taking calls as there is just too much to cover in such a short one hour period. But this show will educate our people so they will know the truth behind the scenes of this 'history in the making' right before our eyes.


Listen

 

[Don Wassall]

Gerald Celente's powers of prediction are overblown but he's always interesting to read or listen to:

Celente - Putin, Ukraine, World War III & Einstein’s Warning

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldn...raine,_World_War_III_&_Einsteins_Warning.html

 

[Charles Martel]

Fighting has broken out, Russia sending in military?

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26400035

Russia's upper house of parliament has approved President Putin's request for Russian forces to be used in Ukraine.

He had asked that Russian forces be used "until the normalisation of the political situation in the country". Russia's Black Sea Fleet is based in the Ukrainian region of Crimea, where many ethnic Russians live.

Ukraine's acting President Olexander Turchynov said he had put the army on full alert but urged people to remain calm. In a televised address, he asked Ukrainians to bridge divisions in the country and said they must not fall for provocations.

 

[Charles Martel]

 

[Charles Martel]

 

[Charles Martel]

 

[Ambrose]

From what I gather, from many, many sources, Russian troops are only in the Crimea. To those of you who don't know, Crimea is an independent, autonomous, republic that federated with "Ukraine". The people resident of Crimea are mostly Russians; their administrators requested help from the Russian Federation. "The Russians" have not invaded "Ukraine" and have already behaved as better peacekeepers than the U.S. army peacekillers have in a century. The opposition parties of the democratically elected administration of "Ukraine" have usurped the powers of administration. These opposition parties have used force to do so. The use of force to usurp authority is known as despotic. Vitali Klitschko, and the other three opposition leaders are despots. The event of Referenda in Crimea will be soon. The Western regions (political subdivisions) will likely follow with their own referendums. The Kiev despots will not be pleased, it seems their plans were only to usurp not to cause a disintegration. Stay tuned.

 

[davidholly]

Putin allegedly told GWB several years ago that half of Ukraine historically belongs to Russia and and these regions were merely gifted to them by the USSR. Large chunks of Eastern Ukraine are outright majority Russian, a lot of the "Ukrainians" in these regions primarily speak Russian and are pro Russia aswell.

In places like the Donetsk Oblast the population is officially 56.9% Ukrainian and 38.2% Russian, yet 74.9% speak primarily Russian.

 

[Quiet Speed]

The Rape of Ukraine: Phase Two Begins

 

[Westside]

Don't know if this has been discussed here, but back in 1994, the US signed a treaty with Ukraine, stating that if they gave up their nuclear missiles, the US long with England, Ireland and others would protect them against Russia if invaded by Russia. Interesting if Putin swipes Crimea and large swaths of Ukraine. What will the US do? I suspect nothing but barks and no bites at this point in history.