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One of two Black guys on the show grounded and pounded out in the first round last night, giving Team Serra the win. He didn't seem like such a bad guy until his pre-fight "talk", after which it was a joy to see him get his ass handed to him.
 
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One of two Black guys on the show grounded and pounded out in the first round last night, giving Team Serra the win. He didn't seem like such a bad guy until his pre-fight "talk", after which it was a joy to see him get his ass handed to him.

Ahhh, thats the beauty of MMA fighting. Cocky, foul-mouthed "affaletes" don't last too long in this elite sport. Even Rampage is beginning to slip a bit. The more he wins, the more we have to hear his big mouth. However, I sense him losing his belt very soon. And as for the Dan Henderson fight...that one could have gone either way. As far as I'm concerned, Rampage got lucky with that so-called "victory" of his.

There's a fighter out there who definitely has his number. I have a feeling its going to be either one of the Russians or the Brazilians. Either way, someone is going to tag him real soon. That Henderson fight was way too close, and I think people saw that Rampage is not as great as everyone thought he was.
 

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Here's hoping that Serra's boy, I believe his name is Joey Scranlon or something like that gets kicked off the show by Dana White next week. I am tired of his whining about not seeing his girlfriend and not being allowed to make any phone calls during his six weeks at the house. He knew what he was signing up for and I am tired of hearing his bitching and moaning each week. There are thousands of MMA fighters that would give anything for the opportunity he has. I also hope Matt Hughes takes out the foulmouthed and disrespectful Matt Serra at the end of the TUF season. They both act like pricks sometimes but I think Serra is the bigger one.Edited by: guest301
 
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Ground Fighter said:
White_Savage said:
One of two Black guys on the show grounded and pounded out in the first round last night, giving Team Serra the win. He didn't seem like such a bad guy until his pre-fight "talk", after which it was a joy to see him get his ass handed to him.

Ahhh, thats the beauty of MMA fighting. Cocky, foul-mouthed "affaletes" don't last too long in this elite sport. Even Rampage is beginning to slip a bit. The more he wins, the more we have to hear his big mouth. However, I sense him losing his belt very soon. And as for the Dan Henderson fight...that one could have gone either way. As far as I'm concerned, Rampage got lucky with that so-called "victory" of his.

There's a fighter out there who definitely has his number. I have a feeling its going to be either one of the Russians or the Brazilians. Either way, someone is going to tag him real soon. That Henderson fight was way too close, and I think people saw that Rampage is not as great as everyone thought he was.

I still question rampage using the cage to flip out of henderson's armbar in that match. You aren't permitted to grab the cage, but using your feet on the cage to climb out of an armbar is legal? Should have had points deducted there.
 

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henderson, lindland and bustamante all beat rampage, but they gave him the decision
 
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Ground Fighter said:
White_Savage said:
One of two Black guys on the show grounded and pounded out in the first round last night, giving Team Serra the win. He didn't seem like such a bad guy until his pre-fight "talk", after which it was a joy to see him get his ass handed to him.

Ahhh, thats the beauty of MMA fighting. Cocky, foul-mouthed "affaletes" don't last too long in this elite sport. Even Rampage is beginning to slip a bit. The more he wins, the more we have to hear his big mouth. However, I sense him losing his belt very soon. And as for the Dan Henderson fight...that one could have gone either way. As far as I'm concerned, Rampage got lucky with that so-called "victory" of his.

There's a fighter out there who definitely has his number. I have a feeling its going to be either one of the Russians or the Brazilians. Either way, someone is going to tag him real soon. That Henderson fight was way too close, and I think people saw that Rampage is not as great as everyone thought he was.

I still question rampage using the cage to flip out of henderson's armbar in that match. You aren't permitted to grab the cage, but using your feet on the cage to climb out of an armbar is legal? Should have had points deducted there.

using your feet on the cage to flip over is a technique called "wall walking" and is perfectly legal.
 
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And listen to that mohawked black guy Jared Rollins's voice.

He sounds like he's breathing helium. Makes Mike Tyson sound like James Earl Jones.Edited by: Trooper Thorn
 

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Here's hoping that Serra's boy, I believe his name is Joe Scranlon or something like that gets kicked off the show by Dana White next week. I am tired of his whining about not seeing his girlfriend and not being allowed to make any phone calls during his six weeks at the house. He knew what he was signing up for and I am tired of hearing his bitching and moaning each week. There are thousands of MMA fighters that would give anything for the opportunity he has. I also hope Matt Hughes takes out the foulmouthed and disrespectful Matt Serra at the end of the TUF season. They both act like pricks sometimes but I think Serra is the bigger one.


Say bye-bye Joey. In next weeks episode one of the black guys on the show attacks the camera crew and the previews lead you to believe Dana kicks him off the show. Stay tuned...Edited by: guest301
 
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Enjoy reading the updates. We don't get the get the Tuff shows out here in Australia. It let's me know who up and coming in the UFC.
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Boy, that kid that got eliminated last night was a complete joke. I'm not kidding when I say you could take any marginally athletic male off the street, throw him in the ring with that kid, and expect a favorable outcome. Makes you wonder what the criteria is for selecting the participants on the show?
 

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Boy, that kid that got eliminated last night was a complete joke. I'm not kidding when I say you could take any marginally athletic male off the street, throw him in the ring with that kid, and expect a favorable outcome. Makes you wonder what the criteria is for selecting the participants on the show?

I wonder if the talent pool is not as thick as we have been lead to believe. Dana keeps talking about the huge list of applicants. How many of those applicants suck?
 

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They've said before that they aren't selecting the best fighters, but those who will make for the best drama. It's a TV show first, and a 'farm' program for the UFC second.

Think about last season: they had a Muslim and a Jew on the show, two Brits, a deaf guy, a street thug, and a Leben clone. Before that they had the Katrina hero (Guillard) and the other flood victim (Rothermael?), etc.

I believe they choose the fighters based on the potential for conflict and drama in the house, rather than who they think is the best unknown, deserving fighter. Throw in a couple of guys who are actually pretty good so the winner will have a little bit of legitimacy, and there you have it - six seasons of TUF.
 
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They don't take the best fighters.

Anyway, it's long past time to cancel this show. It's doing more harm than good to the sport at this point.
 

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They've said before that they aren't selecting the best fighters, but those who will make for the best drama. It's a TV show first, and a 'farm' program for the UFC second.

Think about last season: they had a Muslim and a Jew on the show, two Brits, a deaf guy, a street thug, and a Leben clone. Before that they had the Katrina hero (Guillard) and the other flood victim (Rothermael?), etc.

I believe they choose the fighters based on the potential for conflict and drama in the house, rather than who they think is the best unknown, deserving fighter. Throw in a couple of guys who are actually pretty good so the winner will have a little bit of legitimacy, and there you have it - six seasons of TUF.

Excellent analysis. I think TUF has ran its course at this point I enjoy the fights and training sessions, but the house "drama" has been grossly over-done.
 
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nevada said:
They don't take the best fighters.

Anyway, it's long past time to cancel this show. It's doing more harm than good to the sport at this point.

I second this notion. It makes the UFC look like WWE. Mybe that is the point, though.
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I am still enjoying the show, just not as much as I used too.
 

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I wanted to watch this season to watch the interaction between Serra and Hughes. I think some of the fighters on the show are doing a disservice to the sport. They show up out of shape, over weight, lack skill, and display little heart or determination.

Two guys so far have quit midway through the show because they were homesick over a chick. They can't even manage to stay put for six friggin' weeks? Many of the rest are destructive, destroying other people's property and making a game out of it. Many are drunks. One even attacked the camera crew. It sickens me to listen to these guys complain about how tough it is in the house because they can't call anyone or go anywhere. Try boot camp a**hole. Or Iraq.
 
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I thought it was interesting that they made such a big deal about the obviously horrible judging in last nights fight. Its not often that an athletic organization will show up the officials like that.

So far, this season has had the worst fights that I can remember. The guy who lost last night basically had no game, save the ability to counter punch. Unfortunately, the kicks and punches he took to set up his counters negated that ability pretty much.
 
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UFC just signed a contract with Spike to bring 6 more seasons of this stupid BS to television.
 

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I love to watch MMA, even if TUF is not as good as it used to be, it's still worth watching and you never know if this house holds another Forrest Griffin just waiting to break onto the scene.
 

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Jared Rollins, the other Black guy this season, got TKOd in the first round by an Australian of Greek descent.

That makes it 6-1 for Team Serra. I like Hughes, but I think he may not be that great a coach. Is it possible he got dealt 6 bad fighters? It may be one of those cases where he's too good at the sport to make a good coach. His application of brute force has won him alot of fights, but coaching someone for a skill sport like MMA isn't all force it-push it harder.

I have to admit, for some reason I like Serra too, although I hope Hughes wins the fight with him to seal his legacy.
 
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Another Black fighter that was all show and no go.... It takes more then lifting weights and getting a goofy haircut to be an effective mixed martial artist.
 

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I couldn't stand Matt Serra before this show. Jared's (?) impression of Serra's ringside coaching style was right on - it's annoying as hell. But whether it's the editing or not I don't know, but I have come to like Serra. I admire the way he dealt with his friend in the earlier episodes. He risked a pick to take his buddy, and stuck to his word that the guy wouldn't teach at any of his gyms any more if he left. The guy pussed out in unbelievable fashion and left his buddy hanging on national television. I find what he did despicable. These guys act like six weeks away from home just TRAINING is a huge sacrifice.

Like Serra said before the fight, if this was a body building contest J-roc (or whatever) would have won hands down. But the guy with the old man's body KO'd him in the first round.

And what's up with these guys knocking George because he won't wake them up. Go to bed earlier, moron!

I want Hughes to win the fight against Serra, but I will be less disappointed now if Serra wins. Edited reality TV is a powerful thing.
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As much as I don't personally like that prick Serra, I agree with the above posters that he is a great coach. A good fighter and a even better coach. I know Hughes is down 6-1 on the show but all that matters is Hughes beating Serra in their upcoming fight. Too bad Serra can't clone himself and have another Serra in his corner for that fight, he will need to get very lucky to beat Hughes.
 
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