Tor Hamer says the Klitschkos are ruining the heavyweight division

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http://www.scmp.com/sport/article/1...on-will-enjoy-rebirth-after-klitschkos-retire

The heavyweight division needs the Klitschko brothers to retire before it can regain its glamour, says American fighter Tor Hamer.

“If you look at the division from the American viewpoint, they don’t find them [the Klitschkos] interesting. They are not very exciting fighters. They are not destroying people like Tyson was years ago. While the Klitschkos are dominating, they are not fun to watch.

“They don’t knock guys down within two rounds. They are not big trash talkers. They are both educated fighters. One has a doctorate, the other one is involved in politics. You know they don’t have the nation appeal that you would have with Mayweather, who is in your face all the time,” says the New Yorker (21-2, 14 KOs).
 

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"They don't knock people down within two rounds"

What fighter has Floyd Mayweather knocked down within two rounds?

Here's Hamer vs. Ruiz from last night:

[video=youtube;1NquGwqf2wE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1NquGwqf2wE[/video]
 

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Americans like flash over substance, which is why they root for Oregon over Stanford. Well guess what being methodical wins fights.
 

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Who cares what Americans find interesting? Boxing is a global sport. The Klitschkos don't need American support.

And I remember Haye saying the same thing about the K Bros ruining HW just before Wlad humiliated him. I wish these guys would stop running their mouths unless they can do something about it in the ring. The Klitschkos aren't going to step down and retire just because some find them boring.

As far as Mayweather goes, he's a classless thug. I am sure if the K Bros beat up on women, spent time in jail, wasted money, used profanity in interviews, Americans would be interested. This guy has a lot of balls for knocking them for being educated.
 

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Americans like flash over substance, which is why they root for Oregon over Stanford. Well guess what being methodical wins fights.

yet Hopkins vs Winky Wright was a very high selling ppv fight. Wright, not an aggressive fighter, pulls his trunks up way too high, uses the fake peek a boo style, I like to call it the turtle, he is getting hit, just with his gloves covering his face. And Hopkins, a guy that has getting tangled up with an opponent down to a science. A fighter who almost every fight Ive seen of, I can't tell you for sure if he won or if he lost, except against Calzaghe who figured out that crap.

It hyped up as the "art of boxing" and a "chess match". Really it was just Hopkins getting away with as many fouls as possible, but this excuse of not "entertaining" is bs, because many people bought that ppv and LIKED it.
 

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http://www.scmp.com/sport/article/1...on-will-enjoy-rebirth-after-klitschkos-retire

The heavyweight division needs the Klitschko brothers to retire before it can regain its glamour, says American fighter Tor Hamer.

“If you look at the division from the American viewpoint, they don’t find them [the Klitschkos] interesting. They are not very exciting fighters. They are not destroying people like Tyson was years ago. While the Klitschkos are dominating, they are not fun to watch.

“They don’t knock guys down within two rounds. They are not big trash talkers. They are both educated fighters. One has a doctorate, the other one is involved in politics. You know they don’t have the nation appeal that you would have with Mayweather, who is in your face all the time,” says the New Yorker (21-2, 14 KOs).

Translation: He thinks that the Klitschkos are not exciting because they're white.

As far as Americans being interested in the Klitschos, it's the anti-white media that's not interested in them, not American boxing fans. The Klitschkos go against their narrative that blacks are better athletes than whites.

The leftists promote a general theme that white people are boring and blacks are "exciting." These comments are an example of that theme.
 
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Translation: He thinks that the Klitschkos are not exciting because they're white. As far as Americans being interested in the Klitschos, it's the anti-white media that's not interested in them, not American boxing fans. The Klitschkos go against their narrative that blacks are better athletes than whites.The leftists promote a general theme that whites people are boring and blacks are "exciting." These comments are an example of that theme.
Translation:“If you look at the division from the [American] negro viewpoint, [they] negroes don’t find them [the Klitschkos] interesting.
 

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Translation: He thinks that the Klitschkos are not exciting because they're white.

As far as Americans being interested in the Klitschos, it's the anti-white media that's not interested in them, not American boxing fans. The Klitschkos go against their narrative that blacks are better athletes than whites.

The leftists promote a general theme that white people are boring and blacks are "exciting." These comments are an example of that theme.
Exactly.
 

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I think another thing that plays into white AMerican boxing fans not liking the K brothers is that Americans are conditioned by the media that white athletes are not real athletes and that only black athletes are the only real athletes. That translates into since the K brothers are dominating the heavyweight division the heavyweight division must be lousy, because only a black athlete can dominate. Also, a bigger reason is that unlike black people who feel a sense of pride when black athletes do well. Most whites today feel no sense of pride when a white athlete achieves. They are so conditioned by the media and educational systems to feel any sense of pride in being white. This mentality translates into a bigger issue than just sports which is the decline and downfall of white america.
 

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You know who was boring? Muhammad Ali, the Greatest? That clown would shuffle around for three rounds, then cover up on the ropes, then clutch and hang on and hope the biased judges would gift him a win. I didn't see much of him in his early days when perhaps he had some energy but after about 1970 he sucked. Of course he was "exciting" because he was the first trash talker and famous black buffoon. And Howard Cosell and his ilk pushed him.
 

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You know who was boring? Muhammad Ali, the Greatest? That clown would shuffle around for three rounds, then cover up on the ropes, then clutch and hang on and hope the biased judges would gift him a win. I didn't see much of him in his early days when perhaps he had some energy but after about 1970 he sucked. Of course he was "exciting" because he was the first trash talker and famous black buffoon. And Howard Cosell and his ilk pushed him.

Yep, Ali was a bore to watch. He had no power and so danced around hoping to wear out his opponents while also taunting them both before and during matches -- a tactic which the media always assured the masses was more evidence of Ali's amazing "charisma," a charisma that outside the ring consisted mostly of simpleton nursery rhymes. Think of Terrell Owens only slightly more clever. Ali's matches usually dragged on and were filled with long stretches of little to no action.
 

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In the early years Clay did have ability and KOs. It was after Frazier beat his ass in their 1st fight that it went all down hill for Clay. His last great win was against Foreman, who was not trained right or conditioned right for Clay. After this, Clay got numerous robberies in his favor.

Only now is Clay paying for his crimes and collaborations.
 
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