Toby Gerhart

[whiteathlete33]

Konrad could have been a Brandon Jacobs type only better. They are both around the same size but Konrad was a bit quicker.

 

[hawkeye]

I don't think you can compare Konrad and Alstott with Toby. Toby is expected to go late first round early second round, simular to Beenie Wells.

 

[FootballDad]

Adding to thisfrustration is the fact on the list...Charles Scott, Anthony Dixon & LaGarret Blount are list as "Runningback"?? Yet Gerhart is a "Fullback"???All with similar size and speeds?? Crap on the the so-called brainwashed-watered down weak experts if this is the list they can only think up!

I have watched them all play...it is what is...Scott Wright..you are WEAK!

At the combine when Brian Leonard was getting ready to run the 40...the announcer was saying "they are still trying to figure out if he's a tailback or fullback"? Then Leonard runs a 4.49 and they say "yep, he's a tailback"....

I will try not let my blood boil yet...this time next year we can evaluate Gerhart's rookie season...he needs to be at least "splitting carries"; maybe for the Texans?? Then in "year 2" he hopefully won't get the Peyton Hillis treatment; and can prosper as a "feature back"

Hey TwentyTwo (a good number, it's the one my son wears), you forget, in Scott Wright'sworld, the backs above, Charles Scott, Anthony Dixon, and LaGerret Blount all have the mystical "wiggle" that Wright waxes about, while the "white boy" is apparently just a stiff guy with no moves whatsoever.

 

[JReb1]

I don't think you can compare Konrad and Alstott with Toby. Toby is expected to go late first round early second round, simular to Beenie Wells.

Both Alstott and Konrad were also big college RB's that were projected as late 1st early 2nd round picks. When is the last time ANY White college RB hasn't been considered and or converted to play FB? Toby has the size and skill to be a great FB, but he's better suited to be a featured RB like Alstott was but was never given the chance even after he more than proved himself as a capable RB. It still burns me that not a single team was willing to give Mike a chance to be a featured back while a similarly talented out of shape black RB named Bettis would've been given a shot by EVERY team. Even Iron Head Heyword was a featured back when his abilities screamed FB...

 

[Don Wassall]

Konrad was a record setting high school tailback in Massachusetts who was wooed to Syracuse by being allowed to wear that program's sacred #44. Yet he was still used mostly as a fullback despite his (possibly unprecedented) combination of size, speed and running ability. And in the NFL he was completely wasted, including one season when the Dolphins had a spate of injuries at RB similar to what happened to Denver last year (with the exception that the runner who opened the season as the starter went to prison; only in the NFL), but Jimmy Johnson still refused to give Konrad a chance to run the ball.
Jim Brown, Ernie Davis, and Floyd Little all wore #44 at Syracuse, which has since been retired. And then there's "fullback" Rob Konrad. There's little better symbolism of the Caste System than that. Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[white is right]

I remember Konrad as an Orangeman. He was hyped and then became 600 yard a year rusher who never really was the feature back. As a pro he never was given any opportunities to even be a short yard specialist.

 

[JReb1]

With Gerhart's mainstream popularity right now and his god given abilities we should be able to put enough pressure on the NFL team that drafts him to give him a FAIR chance to be the featured back should they try to give Toby the shaft like every other white RB since the mid-80's. The only thing the DWF's, Caste coaches, owners and GM's can say negative about Toby to justify his possible discrimination is if he runs a really slow 40. As long as Toby runs a 4.6 or better then there will be NO excuse to switch him to FB or TE. If they do then we have to be rational and spread the word about the Caste NFL system even more so than we currently are. In order to not be immediately labeled a "racist" and then easily dismissed we need to compare the RB position to the known discrimination of black QB's (even coaches). We also can use the 40 time of the NFL's All-Time leading rusher Emmit Smith who ran a 4.7 and the NFL's All-Time leading receiver Jerry Rice who ran a 4.6 if they use Toby's speed to excuse him not being a featured RB. Hopefully Gerhart will run a faster 40 than the NFL's All-Time leading rusher and receiver, that will give us a strong talking point IMHO.

 

[whiteathlete33]

JREB, he needs to run in the 4.5 range. Hass got screwed for running a 4.6 flat while tons of black receivers in the league ran a 4.6 at the combine and are playing. He doesn't need spectacular combine numbers but he does need solid ones.
Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[FootballDad]

Everybody, don't forget to tune in to the Sun Bowl today at 2:00 EST to see his last college game...........

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Thanks FBD. I'm going to dial up the game very shortly. Here's to hoping Toby tears it up...one last time (at Stanford)!

 

[whiteathlete33]

Damn! Pritchard threw a pick first drive.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Stanford's OL is getting handled by OU's DL early on...not opening holes for Toby. Those mugs need to man-the-hell-up!

 

[FootballDad]

Damn! Pritchard threw a pick first drive.

If this is indicative of the way that Pritchard is going to throw, then unless Toby has a monster game against 9-in-the-box, Stanford is through. Pritchard had lots of time, and no pressure when he threw, and yet he through to an areathat was covered by 4 Sooners, and was off-target at that. But having watched him before Luck took the job, it's not surprising.

 

[Guest]

Toby did move the pile for a 1st.

 

[Don Wassall]

I don't know anything about Pritchard, but he does look fast running the ball.

 

[Don Wassall]

Very nice TD run by Toby after getting the snap out of the wildcat formation. He's 10/46/1 early in the second quarter.

 

[whiteathlete33]

The two picks Pritchard has thrown already are killers.

 

[Don Wassall]

Toby is running very hard and extremely well. Just ran for his second TD. He's having a huge game so far against OU's affletes.

 

[jcolec02]

Toby is running very hard and extremely well.  Just ran for his second TD.  He's having a huge game so far against OU's affletes.

Yeah that was a hell of a run...even more impressive that he recovered the fumble

 

[Don Wassall]

24 points so far for Stanford in the first half.

 

[Quiet Speed]

Beautiful running by Toby.

Did Stanford get robbed of a TD? I did not see a chop block on the play.

 

[JReb1]

JREB, he needs to run in the 4.5 range. Hass got screwed for running a 4.6 flat while tons of black receivers in the league ran a 4.6 at the combine and are playing. He doesn't need spectacular combine numbers but he does need solid ones.

Alstott also ran a 4.6 and was labeled slow. Toby really does need to run a 4.5 and hopefully a 4.4 that he's capable of. He really need to hire a combine coach like Don Beebe and his "House of Speed" to help improve his combine and draft ranking.

http://www.houseofspeed.com/

 

[whiteathlete33]

Alstott may not have had breakaway speed but he was very quick in short spurts. His first step was one of the fastest for running backs in the league.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Oklahoma has tied the game.

 

[Don Wassall]

For his size Alstott was very quick at Purdue and in the NFL until all the blocking he had to do eventually took its toll. It's ridiculous to expect big backs to be quite as fast in straight line speed as smaller backs, but it's held against big White backs but not black ones.