Not number one
ESPN's website currently has a huge picture of Tiger with the feature headline "Rough Going." The "big story" of the PGA is not the many great names on the leaderboard of what looks to be a great final major on a very interesting, links-style new course, but whether or not Tiger Woods will make the cut. This is such basic racial propaganda -- when Woods does well he is the main story; when he doesn't do well he is the main story. And for years to come he will remain the main story, whether he returns to dominance (highly unlikely), stays about where he is now, or continues to slip down the list of the sport's stars into mediocrity or worse.
I always like watching the facial expressions of the media people when the constant topic of Tiger is brought up. They are so careful to feign interest and say all the right things. They know that one inadvertent rolling of the eyes or other negative expression showing a "lack of sensitivity" toward the repetitive mentioning of Tiger's permanent, universally acknowledged greatness and charisma could cost them their job.
JD074
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(8/13/04 7:11 pm)
Reply poor Tiger
I love hearing the talking heads complain about the "unfairness" of the criticism towards Tiger. "Other players aren't criticized as much when they slump." So what? He made 70 million dollars in endorsements last year. Since he's still in his physical prime, shouldn't he still be the Wilt Chamberlain of golf if his value is considered that high? No other athlete on the planet is valued as highly as Tiger. Moreover, it's not just Tiger that's criticized... just ask Duval or Mickelson.
bjcash
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(8/13/04 8:09 pm)
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The number one thing that bugs me about Tiger is that he always has a pained look on his face after a shot, like he's got cramps or something. No matter how good his shot, or now, how bad it is, he always acts as if it wasn't good enough.
Personally I have always hated playing golf with guys that think they sould make a perfect shot every time and are constantly bummed out when they don't. I'm sure this and many other reasons make Tiger the most unpopular player to play with on the tour.
donwas
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(8/13/04 11:30 pm)
Reply Re: poor Tiger
I golfed today and had no idea how the second round of the PGA went. Turned on the Golf Channel, and after spending about five minutes with the day's highlights, the next 10-12 minutes was spent showing how Tiger Woods birdied three of the final six holes just to make the cut. It is clear now that the media is now falling back on The Streak -- Woods' 129 straight cuts made -- to justify perpetual Tiger Worship.
It's a great record, no doubt about it, but whereas Woods never used to be in danger of missing the cut, the past two years and especially this year he has been close to having the streak end in many of the tournaments he's entered. Rich Lerner of The Golf Channel was giving the new party line, that the mark of a true champion is not how many majors he wins, but how he finds a way to make the cut every time no matter what.
It looks pretty good that Woods is going to lose his number one slot to either Els or Singh on Sunday. If Mickelson doesn't win it (and it doesn't look good for him at this point) I'll be rooting for Ernie. He would be a most worthy and deserving and popular champion.
donwas
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(8/16/04 1:00 am)
Reply Re: poor Tiger
Singh wasn't my choice to win. Big surprise there. But I do like how the media doesn't consider him a "minority" even though he is blacker in skin tone than Tiger. For some reason Vijay is an honorary "white man" on the tour, probably because his darkness isn't obviously of Negro origin.
colonel callan
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(8/16/04 9:28 am)
Reply It won't stop
Of course, CBS during it's closing video/wrap-up showed more footage of Tiger than anyone else - showed him first, also.
prtalki
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(8/16/04 11:06 pm)
Reply Re: It won't stop
The impression I have about Singh is he would have nothing to do with being a 'great Black hope'. Articles from the 80s and 90s mentioned some Black golf fans took a shine to Singh though Singh was ambivalent at best. Fijian and Subcontinent politics probably trains people to be a bit more cautious about playing the race card.
Also the half-wits posing as sports journalists probably never figured out what Singh was exactly. Not up from the ghetto, not a victim. Polite, serious, considerate. Fiji? Where's his grass skirt? Asian? Gawd, but I love dim sum. Indian? Where's his dot?
donwas
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(9/6/04 5:46 pm)
Reply Tiger #2
Well it finally happened. After 5+ years, Tiger Woods has been surpassed by Vijay Singh in the world rankings.
Obviously it would have been great if Els or Mickelson had been the one to pass Woods as number one, but man how sweet it'll be to not constantly hear "Tiger Woods, the number one player in the world, blah, blah, blah" over and over again!
colonel callan
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(9/9/04 4:27 pm)
Reply Some way to say he's tops
As mentioned earlier though, we'll now have to hear about how many times Tiger has made the cut. After all, that's what really counts, eh?
donwas
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(9/9/04 6:53 pm)
Reply Re: Some way to say he's tops
Not only that, I may have been premature on the number one thing. Stuart "Booyah" Scott of ESPN still ranks Woods #1 because "he never misses a cut, plus he's been No. 1 longer than anyone else ever has. A year of playing golf that isn't subpar but merely normal doesn't take that away. When my Nos. 2 and 3, Vijay and Phil, do what Tiger has done the past six years, then I'll move them to my personal No. 1." [source: latest issue of the insufferable "ESPN The Magazine"]
In other words, Tiger will retain his number one ranking among at least some segments of the media for another five years or so because of what he accomplished from 1997-'02. I guess if the New England Patriots miss the playoffs for the next three seasons, Scott will still consider them the best team in the NFL "until someone else duplicates what they've done over a three-year period."
white lightning
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(9/10/04 12:05 am)
Reply re:tiger
Can we call him tiiiger or baby tiger. Hes the biggest
cry baby and he loses his temper on tv alot. It is
disrespectful to the fans but he doesn't care. I'm glad
hes not number 1 and hope he continues to struggle.
I'm sick of Tiger this and that. Its like in Basketball, they
act like Lebron is the 2nd coming or something! He is
an ok player who they worship in the media! I'm really
enjoying seeing the *******y, errogant, William Sisters
get taken down match after match. Even with a couple
of bad call, Capriatti kicked Serenas ass again. Her ego
won't admit it. So what will the media do when they are
gone. Its not going to be easy to find replacements.
One more thing, Lebron was a joke at Athens and it was
a pleasure seeing him sit on the bench and cry because
he couldn't play!LOL!!!
donwas
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(9/10/04 12:15 am)
Reply Re: re:tiger
You hit the nail on the head there, WL -- there are no replacements anywhere on the horizon for either Tiger or the Williams girls. In fact, there are ZERO black golfers other than Tiger, and ZERO black tennis players other than Serena and Venus, much less top-notch ones. Weren't Tiger and the Williams sisters going to unleash that heretofore latent "black supremacy" in golf and tennis? Ha, ha, ha, what a joke!
donwas
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(9/21/04 3:39 pm)
Reply Re:tiger
Tiger flopped again at the Ryder Cup matches, along with most of the rest of the U.S. team. Woods is now 8-11-2 all-time in Ryder Cup play, much of that occurring during that time frame when the media routinely assured us that he was virtually unbeatable and his mere presence intimidated opponents into submission.
It's obvious that the world ranking system is skewed to favor the PGA tour over the European tour, just as the international players have to travel to the U.S. to play in three of the four majors along with other important tournaments that are based here, while the Americans never leave the country except to play in the British Open. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't soon a request by the European and other international players to switch at least one of the three U.S.-based majors outside of America. That would only be fair. The PGA would be the likely candidate. But given the out-of-control arrogance and hubris that characterizes so much of America these days, it's unlikely to be allowed to happen.
BTW, Tiger Woods announced last Thursday that he would play in the 84 Lumber Classic this week, a second year tournament being played south of Pittsburgh. John Daly is 84 Lumber's main corporate spokesman and host for the tournament. He has a close relationship with Joe Hardy, the owner/founder of 84 Lumber, and the resort where the tournament is played is basically his second home now. Woods agreed to play in the tournament after Daly agreed to play at Tiger's request in the Deutsche Bank Championship in Boston three weeks ago, which is unofficially hosted by Woods. Quid pro quo, you help me I'll help you, all that mutually beneficial stuff.
Well, yesterday afternoon, three days before the first round, Woods suddenly pulled out, giving no official reason, though "mental exhaustion" from the Ryder Cup is the one circulating in the media. The article announcing Woods' withdrawal in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today is located right above an ad for the tournament -- featuring a picture of Woods, Vijay Singh and John Daly.
bjcash
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(9/21/04 9:24 pm)
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You got it wrong donwas, Tiger was fine it was all Mickelson's fault. Tiger is great, Phil sucks, if you don't believe it read this story from the AP.
Remember don, if a black man fails it's only because a white guy messed him up!
sports.yahoo.golfserv.com/gdc/news/article.asp?id=27661
Lefty back under microscope
by DOUG FERGUSON, Associated Press
And he was using Woods' golf ball when Mickelson came up short on the 11th green and spun back down the hill into the fairway, a pivotal point in their alternate-shot match Friday afternoon.....
And Here is why Woods won't be playing in the 84 Lumber Classic. The guys got a video to do for cryin out loud, you can't expect him to show up for a tournament that he promised to do if he has a VIDEO, you can't just do VIDEO's anytime you want, ya know!
Woods drops out of 84 Lumber Classic
by Associated Press
FARMINGTON, Pa. (AP) -- Tiger Woods won't be playing in this week's 84 Lumber Classic after all.
After much fanfare last week over Woods' decision to play at Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in western Pennsylvania, his agent said Tuesday morning he was worn out from the Ryder Cup.
``He wouldn't be ready to play this week,'' Mark Steinberg of IMG said from New York, where Woods was doing a media tour to promote his new video game from EA Sports.
Woods and the rest of the Americans suffered their worst loss ever in the Ryder Cup, as Europe won all three formats for an 18 1/2-9 1/2 margin to capture the cup for the seventh time in the last 10 years.
Tournament and resort founder Joe Hardy held a news conference last week to announce Woods was playing, and it was a huge boost for the 2-year-old tournament to have such a strong field. Advertisements last week touted the 84 Lumber Classic as a matchup between Woods and Vijay Singh, who earlier this month replaced Woods at No. 1 in the world ranking.
Woods is scheduled to play next week in Ireland at the American Express Championship.
More than 80,000 tickets have already been sold for the 84 Lumber Classic, and officials were counting on Woods' participation to draw its largest crowd ever.
Re: Re:tiger
"Lefty back under microscope" -- I love it! Not "Woods continues fall to mediocrity." Phil's had his five-month media reprieve after winning the Masters and almost winning the other majors. Damn that Mickelson, holding back the (three-eighths) black man!
Edited by: donwas at: 9/21/04 11:59 pm
donwas
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(10/4/04 2:22 am)
Reply Re: Woods
In case you missed it, Tiger fell to #3 in the world rankings today behind Vijay Singh and Ernie Els. Remember Els? He has been forgotten in the media attention given Singh of late. He won the tournament in Ireland today, which was also contested by a fair amount of top PGA tour players, including Woods, who finished ninth, one of the few times U.S. players leave the U.S. to play in a tournament other than The Open.
It was really a coin toss as to whether Singh or Els was going to supplant Woods at number one at some point in 2004. Els had a heartbreaking quartet of majors this year and disappeared for six weeks or so while Singh had his amazing streak of domination. But Ernie is right there, close to the number one ranking, depending on which tournaments he chooses to participate in.
ESPN's website currently has a huge picture of Tiger with the feature headline "Rough Going." The "big story" of the PGA is not the many great names on the leaderboard of what looks to be a great final major on a very interesting, links-style new course, but whether or not Tiger Woods will make the cut. This is such basic racial propaganda -- when Woods does well he is the main story; when he doesn't do well he is the main story. And for years to come he will remain the main story, whether he returns to dominance (highly unlikely), stays about where he is now, or continues to slip down the list of the sport's stars into mediocrity or worse.
I always like watching the facial expressions of the media people when the constant topic of Tiger is brought up. They are so careful to feign interest and say all the right things. They know that one inadvertent rolling of the eyes or other negative expression showing a "lack of sensitivity" toward the repetitive mentioning of Tiger's permanent, universally acknowledged greatness and charisma could cost them their job.
JD074
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(8/13/04 7:11 pm)
Reply poor Tiger
I love hearing the talking heads complain about the "unfairness" of the criticism towards Tiger. "Other players aren't criticized as much when they slump." So what? He made 70 million dollars in endorsements last year. Since he's still in his physical prime, shouldn't he still be the Wilt Chamberlain of golf if his value is considered that high? No other athlete on the planet is valued as highly as Tiger. Moreover, it's not just Tiger that's criticized... just ask Duval or Mickelson.
bjcash
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(8/13/04 8:09 pm)
Reply | Edit Re: poor Tiger
The number one thing that bugs me about Tiger is that he always has a pained look on his face after a shot, like he's got cramps or something. No matter how good his shot, or now, how bad it is, he always acts as if it wasn't good enough.
Personally I have always hated playing golf with guys that think they sould make a perfect shot every time and are constantly bummed out when they don't. I'm sure this and many other reasons make Tiger the most unpopular player to play with on the tour.
donwas
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(8/13/04 11:30 pm)
Reply Re: poor Tiger
I golfed today and had no idea how the second round of the PGA went. Turned on the Golf Channel, and after spending about five minutes with the day's highlights, the next 10-12 minutes was spent showing how Tiger Woods birdied three of the final six holes just to make the cut. It is clear now that the media is now falling back on The Streak -- Woods' 129 straight cuts made -- to justify perpetual Tiger Worship.
It's a great record, no doubt about it, but whereas Woods never used to be in danger of missing the cut, the past two years and especially this year he has been close to having the streak end in many of the tournaments he's entered. Rich Lerner of The Golf Channel was giving the new party line, that the mark of a true champion is not how many majors he wins, but how he finds a way to make the cut every time no matter what.
It looks pretty good that Woods is going to lose his number one slot to either Els or Singh on Sunday. If Mickelson doesn't win it (and it doesn't look good for him at this point) I'll be rooting for Ernie. He would be a most worthy and deserving and popular champion.
donwas
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(8/16/04 1:00 am)
Reply Re: poor Tiger
Singh wasn't my choice to win. Big surprise there. But I do like how the media doesn't consider him a "minority" even though he is blacker in skin tone than Tiger. For some reason Vijay is an honorary "white man" on the tour, probably because his darkness isn't obviously of Negro origin.
colonel callan
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(8/16/04 9:28 am)
Reply It won't stop
Of course, CBS during it's closing video/wrap-up showed more footage of Tiger than anyone else - showed him first, also.
prtalki
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(8/16/04 11:06 pm)
Reply Re: It won't stop
The impression I have about Singh is he would have nothing to do with being a 'great Black hope'. Articles from the 80s and 90s mentioned some Black golf fans took a shine to Singh though Singh was ambivalent at best. Fijian and Subcontinent politics probably trains people to be a bit more cautious about playing the race card.
Also the half-wits posing as sports journalists probably never figured out what Singh was exactly. Not up from the ghetto, not a victim. Polite, serious, considerate. Fiji? Where's his grass skirt? Asian? Gawd, but I love dim sum. Indian? Where's his dot?
donwas
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(9/6/04 5:46 pm)
Reply Tiger #2
Well it finally happened. After 5+ years, Tiger Woods has been surpassed by Vijay Singh in the world rankings.
Obviously it would have been great if Els or Mickelson had been the one to pass Woods as number one, but man how sweet it'll be to not constantly hear "Tiger Woods, the number one player in the world, blah, blah, blah" over and over again!
colonel callan
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(9/9/04 4:27 pm)
Reply Some way to say he's tops
As mentioned earlier though, we'll now have to hear about how many times Tiger has made the cut. After all, that's what really counts, eh?
donwas
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(9/9/04 6:53 pm)
Reply Re: Some way to say he's tops
Not only that, I may have been premature on the number one thing. Stuart "Booyah" Scott of ESPN still ranks Woods #1 because "he never misses a cut, plus he's been No. 1 longer than anyone else ever has. A year of playing golf that isn't subpar but merely normal doesn't take that away. When my Nos. 2 and 3, Vijay and Phil, do what Tiger has done the past six years, then I'll move them to my personal No. 1." [source: latest issue of the insufferable "ESPN The Magazine"]
In other words, Tiger will retain his number one ranking among at least some segments of the media for another five years or so because of what he accomplished from 1997-'02. I guess if the New England Patriots miss the playoffs for the next three seasons, Scott will still consider them the best team in the NFL "until someone else duplicates what they've done over a three-year period."
white lightning
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(9/10/04 12:05 am)
Reply re:tiger
Can we call him tiiiger or baby tiger. Hes the biggest
cry baby and he loses his temper on tv alot. It is
disrespectful to the fans but he doesn't care. I'm glad
hes not number 1 and hope he continues to struggle.
I'm sick of Tiger this and that. Its like in Basketball, they
act like Lebron is the 2nd coming or something! He is
an ok player who they worship in the media! I'm really
enjoying seeing the *******y, errogant, William Sisters
get taken down match after match. Even with a couple
of bad call, Capriatti kicked Serenas ass again. Her ego
won't admit it. So what will the media do when they are
gone. Its not going to be easy to find replacements.
One more thing, Lebron was a joke at Athens and it was
a pleasure seeing him sit on the bench and cry because
he couldn't play!LOL!!!
donwas
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Posts: 151
(9/10/04 12:15 am)
Reply Re: re:tiger
You hit the nail on the head there, WL -- there are no replacements anywhere on the horizon for either Tiger or the Williams girls. In fact, there are ZERO black golfers other than Tiger, and ZERO black tennis players other than Serena and Venus, much less top-notch ones. Weren't Tiger and the Williams sisters going to unleash that heretofore latent "black supremacy" in golf and tennis? Ha, ha, ha, what a joke!
donwas
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(9/21/04 3:39 pm)
Reply Re:tiger
Tiger flopped again at the Ryder Cup matches, along with most of the rest of the U.S. team. Woods is now 8-11-2 all-time in Ryder Cup play, much of that occurring during that time frame when the media routinely assured us that he was virtually unbeatable and his mere presence intimidated opponents into submission.
It's obvious that the world ranking system is skewed to favor the PGA tour over the European tour, just as the international players have to travel to the U.S. to play in three of the four majors along with other important tournaments that are based here, while the Americans never leave the country except to play in the British Open. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't soon a request by the European and other international players to switch at least one of the three U.S.-based majors outside of America. That would only be fair. The PGA would be the likely candidate. But given the out-of-control arrogance and hubris that characterizes so much of America these days, it's unlikely to be allowed to happen.
BTW, Tiger Woods announced last Thursday that he would play in the 84 Lumber Classic this week, a second year tournament being played south of Pittsburgh. John Daly is 84 Lumber's main corporate spokesman and host for the tournament. He has a close relationship with Joe Hardy, the owner/founder of 84 Lumber, and the resort where the tournament is played is basically his second home now. Woods agreed to play in the tournament after Daly agreed to play at Tiger's request in the Deutsche Bank Championship in Boston three weeks ago, which is unofficially hosted by Woods. Quid pro quo, you help me I'll help you, all that mutually beneficial stuff.
Well, yesterday afternoon, three days before the first round, Woods suddenly pulled out, giving no official reason, though "mental exhaustion" from the Ryder Cup is the one circulating in the media. The article announcing Woods' withdrawal in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today is located right above an ad for the tournament -- featuring a picture of Woods, Vijay Singh and John Daly.
bjcash
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(9/21/04 9:24 pm)
Reply | Edit Re: Re:tiger
You got it wrong donwas, Tiger was fine it was all Mickelson's fault. Tiger is great, Phil sucks, if you don't believe it read this story from the AP.
Remember don, if a black man fails it's only because a white guy messed him up!
sports.yahoo.golfserv.com/gdc/news/article.asp?id=27661
Lefty back under microscope
by DOUG FERGUSON, Associated Press
And he was using Woods' golf ball when Mickelson came up short on the 11th green and spun back down the hill into the fairway, a pivotal point in their alternate-shot match Friday afternoon.....
And Here is why Woods won't be playing in the 84 Lumber Classic. The guys got a video to do for cryin out loud, you can't expect him to show up for a tournament that he promised to do if he has a VIDEO, you can't just do VIDEO's anytime you want, ya know!
Woods drops out of 84 Lumber Classic
by Associated Press
FARMINGTON, Pa. (AP) -- Tiger Woods won't be playing in this week's 84 Lumber Classic after all.
After much fanfare last week over Woods' decision to play at Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in western Pennsylvania, his agent said Tuesday morning he was worn out from the Ryder Cup.
``He wouldn't be ready to play this week,'' Mark Steinberg of IMG said from New York, where Woods was doing a media tour to promote his new video game from EA Sports.
Woods and the rest of the Americans suffered their worst loss ever in the Ryder Cup, as Europe won all three formats for an 18 1/2-9 1/2 margin to capture the cup for the seventh time in the last 10 years.
Tournament and resort founder Joe Hardy held a news conference last week to announce Woods was playing, and it was a huge boost for the 2-year-old tournament to have such a strong field. Advertisements last week touted the 84 Lumber Classic as a matchup between Woods and Vijay Singh, who earlier this month replaced Woods at No. 1 in the world ranking.
Woods is scheduled to play next week in Ireland at the American Express Championship.
More than 80,000 tickets have already been sold for the 84 Lumber Classic, and officials were counting on Woods' participation to draw its largest crowd ever.
Re: Re:tiger
"Lefty back under microscope" -- I love it! Not "Woods continues fall to mediocrity." Phil's had his five-month media reprieve after winning the Masters and almost winning the other majors. Damn that Mickelson, holding back the (three-eighths) black man!
Edited by: donwas at: 9/21/04 11:59 pm
donwas
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(10/4/04 2:22 am)
Reply Re: Woods
In case you missed it, Tiger fell to #3 in the world rankings today behind Vijay Singh and Ernie Els. Remember Els? He has been forgotten in the media attention given Singh of late. He won the tournament in Ireland today, which was also contested by a fair amount of top PGA tour players, including Woods, who finished ninth, one of the few times U.S. players leave the U.S. to play in a tournament other than The Open.
It was really a coin toss as to whether Singh or Els was going to supplant Woods at number one at some point in 2004. Els had a heartbreaking quartet of majors this year and disappeared for six weeks or so while Singh had his amazing streak of domination. But Ernie is right there, close to the number one ranking, depending on which tournaments he chooses to participate in.
