hello rebajlo
i'm sorry, i don't speak english well enough so people think i am aggressive when i am not
i support white teams, like you
but what i said was true
let me precise what i wanted to say
if you look a a match, and you want to know who will win, you have to look at the number of africans blacks and european blacks
it's a known fact, the less blacks you have, the better you are
BUT, you have to take another thing into consideration: south america produces players that are partly black, but that are "game breakers", or at least talentfull players
so, counting the black players is not enough, you have to look at the non southern american players
then, you have to take the status of the player into consideration
portuguese clubs don't win every champions league, because they often have bad brazilian players, while spain and italy usually have the best ones
but, if you look at the money they have, it is very impressive: they won the 2004 champions league, with a combination of excellent european players (the russian, maniche, ect) but also with brazilian players like deco
and this year, 3 clubs out of 4 in europa league semi finals
these results are not portugal's result, this happens because they have an amazing number of south americans, and sometimes good ones like hulk and falcao
as for the number of victory brazil has, yes they dominate soccer: yes they have the biggest number of victories , but they also are favorites EVERY 4 YEARS, this is incredible
just look at this: 1994: they won
1998: second (they were better than france, they should have won, and i'm french)
2002:they won
2006: quarter finals, they lost because they had a black goalkeeper, and because edmilson was injuried
2010: quarter finals, they lost because of a red card, and the injury of elano blumer
these results are amazing
not only this, but also paraguay did very well in 2010, with a ridiculously low population
they eliminated spain, but the referee gave the match to spain without even noticing it i think, because of the status of the spanish team (the foul piqué made=red card, not yellow, it's a joke, and he also refused a goal for paraguay)
uruguay should have beat holland (
http://rutube.ru/tracks/4029333.html this is a video i made about the referee's "mistakes")
also, europe has the largest number of participants to the world cup
it's OK, but it's easier to win this way
Brazil (population a whopping circa. 190 million!) has won 5 World Cups -
whereas Argentina (40 million) has won 2, as has Uruguay (a mere 3.5
million)
yes, and it's amazing
uruguay even won more copa america than brazil
i think uruguay will win the next copa america by the way
Argentine clubs have won the trophy on 22 occasions while Brazilian clubs have won it 15 times
great accomplishment, but it can't be significant, since the best south americans are in europe, unfortunately
but, wait! According to Your theory, Bayern (with their one South
American, Argentine Martin Demichelis) shouldn't have got past Lyon in
the quarterfinals, given the "French" team's high South American content
(3 Brazilians, 1 Argentine)
let's apply what i told you about the number of blacks
munchen had no african blacks, while lyon had a lot of them
and the brazilian in french ligue 1 are bad brazilian players, while demichelis is a monster (of northern italian blood)
BUT, if you look at lyon, their best players eveer, the ones that allowed them to gain respect in the champions league, were brazilians: sonny anderson,edmilson, and juninho, and now lisandro lopez
With the exception of Internazionale in 2010, no European Cup /
Champions League winner has started more than 3 South Americans in the
final since 1960
not significant, since there is a limit of not europeanplayers per team....3 non europeans per team
internazionale could play with a lot of south americans because they had european blood, and so they could have european citizenship ( i listed the origins of every player)
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With regard to the stream ofSouth American players signed by
European clubs and their obvious impact on European football, consider
this: if the biggest football money was in South America, European
players would be signed by South American clubs and we would talk of
the impact of the Old World players on the leagues of Argentina, Uruguay
and (dare I say it?) Brazil. I'd like to see just how strong the
Brazilian national team would be if Brazilian clubs were filled with
Spaniards, Italians, Germans, Englishmen, Serbs, et cetera - plus
several dozen Africans.
i agree, and i noticed that the english team for example is less and less skillfull because of that, even the white players are not on the same level as shearer, owen ect
Look at the 2005 Champions League final. As they featured no South
Americans, I guess that Liverpool must have been pretty lucky against an
AC Milan side which started 3 magical Brazilians (Dida, Cafu, Kaka)
plus Argentine Hernan Crespo.
liverpool had an excellent team, with only one black i think, maybe zero
milan had a great team too
kaka for example, is one of those brazilian players that can win a champions league on their own: he did it in 2006 i think (now he is injuried)
hernan crespo too
and the two are white
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"brazilians" that play for european national teams are the ones that are not good enough to play for brazil
this is why dunga (of german and northern italian descent) said that portugal was the B team of brazil
How about 2001? Only the Devil knows how Bayern Munich managed to
avoid annihilation against a Valencia side containing 4 Argentines (Kily
Gonzalez, Pablo Aimar, Roberto Ayala and Mauricio Pellegrino)
again, this example proves my point
valencia is a team that was nothing, but bought a lot of southern americans, and because of that, managed to attain 2 times the champions league final, that is unbelievable
and by the way, a lot of those south americans were whites, because they had european cityzenship
kily=french and spanish
lopez= spanish
ayala=spanish
aimar=italain
pellegrino= italian
if we look at the last editions of the champions league:
2011: messi
2010:inter full of brazilians and argentineans
2009:messi
2008: c.ronaldo
2007:kaka
2006: ronaldinho
we can see that brazilians and argentineans dominate
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Edited by: frederic38