Mate may I add three things too?
Sure, mate! By all means, have at it!
1) The American teams that won gold medals at the Olympics until 1976 were either fully white or heavily white dominated
So? I'm American. As long as they win, I couldn't care less what color they are. I think race is your obsession, not mine.
2) What about all these Olympics (1972, 1980, 1988,
Surely you're aware that before 1992, we were sending our amateur college kids to compete against the professional men of other countries, right? You do realize that's why the original Dream Team's quest was such a monumental event, no? Taking that into consideration, isn't getting all excited and tingly over victories in the 70's and 80's a tad bit silly? Especially considering that savagery the Dream Teams inflicted on your overwhelmed, overmatched, ill-equipped, incapable countymen in '92, '96, '08, and to a slightly lesser extent, 2000?
2004 has been addressed on this board ad nauseum. Patriotism through sport is held in much higher regard around the world than in the US. After we had been decimating the world with relative ease, our best players began concocting the most silly, most puerile excuses to forego international play. "Wanting to spend time with their family", "terrorism concerns", "healing up injuries", "been there, done that" were among the more common refrains from that year. In reality, they felt wasting their summer skinning some woefully inept overseas pretenders really wasn't worth their precious time.. so they gracefully bowed out. The top Euros, in 180 degree diametric opposite fashion, would rather take a bullet than miss throwing on their national colors and competing for their countries.
In 2004, while the other countries sent their very best of their best, we only sent *2* stars, and 10 spare parts who weren't even good enough to make the all-star 24.
All teams are NOT created equal. If we had added Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson to those 10 who DIDN'T GO, the global eviceration would have been '92-esque. Simply sending them with 10 random youngsters, and emblazoning USA across their chests does not a dominant team make, nor does it automatically equal the best our Mighty Might has to offer. That continues to be the fatal flaw in you and your ilk's warped, imaginary Eurobasketball-supremist, fantasy-based "logic".
Imagine if in 2008, Spain had sent the Gasol brothers, and 10 other random Spaniards.. all of whom weren't even good enough to make their respective all-star teams. It would have meant:
NO Ricky Rubio
NO Rudy Fernandez
NO Jose Calderon
NO Juan Carlos Navarro
NO Felipe Reyes
NO Alex Mumbru
NO Carlos Jimenez
NO Jorge Garbajosa
NO Berni Rodriguez
NO Raul Lopez
Just the Gasol brothers and 10 other random kids. They would have been laughed out of Beijing, and sent home with clown masks permanently welded to their skulls. That would have been the equivalent of what WE sent in 2004. We were STILL somewhat competitive, beating Greece, Spain, Australia, then Lithuania for the bronze.
and numerous world championships ( just mentioning the three last, 1998, 2002, 2006) that white fully white teams ( Spain, Greece, USSR, Serbia, Lithuania, Argentina) were dismantling the over hyped and overrated black dominated teams from the US?
1998?!? You mean the NBA strike year? LOLOL! Again, a little research on these actual teams might do you some good. The World Championship team that we sent that year would have been beaten down by 12 goofballs at a local park. The team composed of CBA players, college kids, guys who sucked so bad, they were reduced to playing in Europe, and guys totally out of basketball!
Look at that motley crew! NONE OF THOSE GUYS WERE EVEN IN THE NBA, and most of the elite college studs didn't want to anger that NBA Player's Union by crossing the proverbial picket line. However, THEY STILL WENT 7-2.. beating Brazil (by 24), Argentina (by 13), Australia (by 18), Italy, and Greece (by 23). You should be embarassed that you even referenced them, lol! These scrubs spanked several of your boys, while only losing to Lithuania by 2, and Russia by 2!
Here are the 1998 stars who COULD have gone had it not been for the strike. Considering how close that awful team that did go came to winning, how epic do you think the devastation would have been had 12 of THESE guys actually gone instead?
The 2002 team, while NBA player-laden, barely amounted to junior varsity quality either.
Not even a bonifide fool would consider either of those squads that competed the least bit competitve, or representative of what the US could have unleashed. Euros used those years to pad their stats. The '06 team was only slightly better.
By 2008, our crème-de-la-crème had heard enough of the ignorant, moronic, wishful thinking bilge that the rest of the US-hating, easily manipulated cornballs were spewing about how international teams have caught up to us in athleticism and technical play. That year our stars decided to get off their asses, go to Beijing to rip the world a collective new one, and return the 12 gold medals to their rightful owner's necks. The adults were back in the building.. and unsuprisingly, they so thoroughly thrashed the weak, flailing, opposing eunuchs, that it became "cool" again to represent their country.
We played 'possom in those meek years by sending lousy squads.. thereby inadvertantly suckering international team-loving sychophants into thinking they were actually capable of competing with us. Au contraire, mon frère!
You see the pattern? I took the time to color-code it for emphasis. We outclass EVERYONE in just about EVERY FACET OF THE GAME. PERIOD.
And 2010? Despite not having a single returning Beijing player to the '10 world championships, our next rung of USA elite resulting in producing the same predictable 25 point victory margin castrations.
3) If one sees even the sport of basketball, that is widely considered as the only global black dominated team sport, even that sport statistically and historically and on a global basis it's a white dominated sport............Isn't Serbia the team with most wins in FIBA world games with 5? I thought so!
Owned!
Seriously, bud, with your weak, sickly, easily-refuted (non)logic, you couldn't "own" me in your wildest dreams.
Anyway, for the seemingly 100th time.. Yugoslav's PROFESSIONAL
MEN played our COLLEGE
KIDS until 1992. In '94, the first world championships in which we sent our pros, Shaq O'Neal, Dominique Wilkins, Alonzo Mourning, and company MUTILATED our opposition by an average of 38 points per game.. including Australia by 56, your precious Russia by 46 in the Gold medal game, and Greece by 39.
After slapping up the overseas scrubs in '92, '94, and '96, we were done with the 'Our Best versus Your Best" sociological experimental thrashings, and going forward, our top guys were no longer interested in enlisting for duty. We went back to sending our lower echelon players in 1998 (as proven by the posted '98 and '02 squads also posted above).
When we sent absolute crap in 1998:
Lithuania only beat us by 2
Russia only beat us by 2
When we sent absolute crap in 2002:
Argentina only beat us by 7
Yugoslavia only beat us by 3
When we sent absolute crap in 2004:
Lithuania only beat us by 4
Argentina only beat us by 7
When we sent a marginal team in 2006:
Greece only beat us by 5
Ya' see that? You got all hot and moist over 2, 2, 7, 3, 4, 7, and 5 point victories. So a TOTAL of 30 points in 7 games OVER 8 YEARS against our garbage confirmed for you your belief of Europe's basketball supremacy? Seriously? A handful of wins by an average of 4 points per game? When we send our mediocre to marginal talent, the top Euro stud elites squeak by them in single-digit nailbiters.
When we sent our ELITE talent in 1992:
We crushed Lithuania by 51
We crushed Germany by 43
We crushed Spain by 41
We crushed Croatia by 33
We crushed Croatia by 32
When we sent our ELITE talent in 1994:
We crushed Russia by 46
We crushed Greece by 39
We crushed Russia by 17
We crushed Spain by 15
When we sent our ELITE talent in 1996:
We crushed Croatia by 31
We crushed Argentina by 28
We crushed Yugoslavia by 26
We crushed Lithuania by 22
When we sent our ELITE talent in 2008:
We crushed Germany by 49
We crushed Spain by 37
We crushed Lithuania by 36
We crushed Turkey by 32
We crushed Greece by 23
We crushed Russia by 21
We crushed Argentina by 20
When we sent our ELITE talent in 2010:
We crushed France by 31
We crushed Croatia by 28
We crushed Greece by 28
We crushed Greece by 23
We crushed Slovenia by 22
We crushed Lithuania by 16
We crushed Lithuania by 15
We crushed Russia by 10
You see the slight (the word "slight" is dripping with sarcasm, obviously) difference in the margins of victory by OUR Elite's victories as opposed to your? You see the slight (the word "slight" is dripping with sarcasm, obviously) difference in the sheer number of victories by OUR Elite, as opposed to yours? That's what's known as rock-solid, iron-clad, proof that your buddies couldn't carry our sweaty jocks with a John Deere backhoe (or the Euro equivalent) when it comes to basketball. THE ONLY WAY you forerigners can ever possibly beat us is if you send your very, very best, and we send our scrubs. And EVEN THEN YOU ONLY BEAT US BY A BASKET OR 2.
Our Elite DOMINATES every once else's elite, while everyone else's elite
squeaks by our
SCRUBS.
PERIOD. The proof is right there in black & white.
Your best will NEVER beat our best. NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL.. AND YOU KNOW IT. Acknowledging such, however, would blast your mythical, imaginary premise of European basketball supremacy out of the water once and for all.. so obviously, I won't hold my breath awaiting the truth to escape your now pursed, very vexed lips.
Now THAT, my friend, is how you properly "own" someone. :icon_smile:
PS
The "magnificent" team of the US back in 2008, needed the blatant unfair help of the referrers and was the only team that denied to pass from any doping control test and still did bleed and sweat to win in a dramatic final vs the all white team of Spain.........Just reminding u
Those gosh dern refs! HAHAHAHA! Is that the best you comedians can come up with after 4 years? The Dream Team gutted you like a carp in practically every game, yet with such nobility and grace you contiunue to resort to the same pathetic talking points which you guys constantly reference to explain away each and every defeat.
You really think "refs" could cause such disparities? Why would the jealous, America-hating international refs do so anyway?
'roids? Hahaha! Now 'Roids was the reason the Dream Team murdered the Euro's in '92, '94, '96, '00, '08, '10, and in a few weeks here in '12? Again.. pathetic. 63 whites were either banned and/or had their records expunged from the 2008 Olympic games due to testing positive for PEDS, or skipping tests altogether.. 3 blacks. 63 to 3. Sorry.
I take it the Dynamic R&R ("roids" and "refs") Duo is also responsible for the lopsided 54-2, 96% winning percentage (15-1 against your young Euro's) the U16, U17, and U18 USA boys have logged against the overwhelmed world's boys too, eh?
Zeus? Give it up, bro. Quit while you're behind. Your Euro-stiffs simply can't hang, and you know it. No matter what you say, the proof just smacked you upside your puss. No matter how desperately you try to twist, manipulate, contort, and shoehorn your non-argument into some semblance of clarity, you'll always fail. Why? Because you can't impeach the truth. The facts will never be on your side.
Better luck next time..
if you dare. :icon_smile:
