scarcity of black centers

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I found this today oncbs sportsline.com - nfl news. Read it and puke. Centers are the new target of the caste system. When will it end? Punters? Waterboys?
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http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8846923Edited by: Kaptain Poop
 

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From the article:

"There are no white cornerbacks, but thats for skill reasons. So no one says anything about that.

But why are there no black centers?"

I'm at a loss for words. I don't know what to say. I'm sitting here angry but with a lump in my throat at the same time. Its pretty discouraging.
 

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It is "discouraging", as in dis-COURAGING. They want to take away our COURAGE to even say a singlething. There are plenty of posts in here about how great, yes great, white college CB's and WR'sare all over the nation, but they cannot fit into the caste system of the NFLbecause of who pulls the strings in it. I guess when we're a minority some day, we'll get some fairness. NOT!


I guess we need to start speaking up on some level whether it's letters to Sports radio stations or something. I'm not sure where to start. But actually a good start would be introducing reasonable, rational, logical people to this web site!
 

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Why don't you guys take some action and email/write him back like I did.
 

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Anti-White double standards rule of the day in the NFL.



Obviously nothing more than another anti-white athlete piece of trash
masking itself as a "fair" article. Yes, every Caste forum reader
should email this reporter and let him know that anti-white bias is
wrong. Not that he will really care, but you might as well at least let
him know that not every fan is a black worshipper like he thinks they
are.



And that is really what it comes down to: if blacks do not dominate nearly every position than of course it must be racism
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There's this false idea that puts black athletes on a pedastel as god
like super athletes. Ironically, it is whites who dominate in athletics
beyond sprinting and long jumping. And sometimes whites win in these
events.

The NFL is becoming more and more of a joke every season.



This reporter is just trying to score some brownie points with his masters in at CBS.

Happens all the time.



I often notice that when they do the TV highlights on ESPN, they do not
even show key plays made by white players if they are a DB, LB,
WR...these positions must be known as black dominated.

It is sickening and caste should organize a day for an email blitz to
some of the more anti-white sports writers. Say like the punk who wrote
this article on why there is no black centers in the NFL?
 
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whiteCB said:
Why don't you guys take some action and email/write him back like I did.

Good suggestion. I just did. Unlike most corporate media articles this one has a feedback feature. I suggest others do the same.Edited by: right winger
 

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I responded back to Prisco. If nothing else, he'll at least know that not everyone in this country buys into the double-standards perpetuated by the media.
 

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Here is the what I sent via the feeback option:

Dear Sir
I'm writing in regards to your article concerning the lack of black centers in the NFL.

As I understand your position, you believe there is some vestigial racism left in the NFL that has prevented more black men from playing the position of center. Yet, the lack of white cornerbacks (and running backs, I might add) you attribute simply to blacks having more 'skill' at the position.

1) Why can't the same assumption be made about whites being more 'skilled' at playing center. Or quarterback, for example?

2) Do you really believe that there is not 1 white football player in this country who is capable of playing the position of cornerback or running back better than the worst black athlete currently at that position? Out of 100 million white men in this country, that belief is untenable, at best.

3)Have you ever considered doing a piece on the difficulties faced by white football players attempting to make it in the NFL as cornerback or running back, or perhaps, even wide receiver? It would surely be a controversial piece and would garner plenty of attention for your column.

Thanks for your time.
 

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Great letter WS, I decided to quickly rip off a letter also this morning. I couldn't have said it better than you already did though but the more he hears I figure the better. Here's mine:


Dear Sir,


I question your motive for writing an article about the racism you assume exists in the NFL against black centers. At the same time you write off the complete lack of white cornerbacks as a "lack of skill". Black americans compose roughly 11% of the american population and at the persent time only 3% of NFL centers are black. However, just 2 more black centers in the NFL would remedy this disparity. Is that your purpose for writing this article? Two black centers? Hardly seems like something worth writing. What about 0% percent at running back and quarterback from 70% of the population? Have you written similar articles pointing out this striking reality? If not, why? Seems to me the unglorified position of center in the NFL is less important.


Thank you,
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I just sent him a reply in the same mold as ya'lls. I forgot to copy it before I sent it though, so I guess you won't be able to see it. Anyway, I hope he gets the message.
 

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I was a little less tactful than you guys, but who cares, he probably won't read them anyways.
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I sent him a feedback as well. Wish I would have copied the damn thing, though it wasn't nearly as kind as Shoguns.
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great job guys! thanks for the heads-up. i sent one, as well. it was just a little tweaking of his article...but i think it made a statement. you be the judge, 'cause here it is...

Dear sir, please allow me to make my opinion clear with regard to your article by doing some simple editing. i won't be making money off it, so i hope it doesn't infringe upon any copyright laws.

When the NFL opened its season last week, 32 starting quarterbacks took the field. Of those 32, six were African-American, which is a sign of progress and means skin color is no longer an issue when it comes to playing the position.
Moreover, most of those men are playing the position well, shooting down a stereotype that wrongly lived for years.

One needs to look only as far as the passes of those quarterbacks on game day to find a position where the progress hasn't come as fast. Of the starting receivers on opening day, one was white: Drew Bennett -- of the Tennessee Titans. There were also a total of zero starting white cornerbacks or tailbacks.

Think about that? Just none.

"In 2005, you look at everybody's roster and their starting receivers and I am the only one," Bennett could have said. "Then you go, 'Hmmm?' You know, what can you say?"

Receiver, like tailback or cornerback, was viewed for years as a position of playmaking and athleticism and the coaching network now frowns on playing whites at the "skill positions" for the same reasons it took years to see a black quarterback starting in the NFL. Nobody would dare come out and say such a thing, but the history is there to back it up.

A handful of league types we talked to about the subject wanted no part of discussing the topic for sensitivity reasons.
"It kind of has a pink elephant feel to it," said any general manager or player or personnel director, who is white or black. "You won't get the NFL personnel people to say any of that."

There have been more black starting quarterbacks than there have been white tailbacks, cornerbacks, or wide receivers combined over the last 20 years. There is no database for white tailbacks, receivers or corners, but in discussing it with some who have played the position, it's clear the number is minimal, much like it was for decades for the quarterbacks.

"At the present time, the tailback position and the receiver and cornerback position are considered to be the playmaking positions and whites, Caucasian-Americans, aren't considered athletic enough to handle the workload," Bennett could have said. "It just goes to show you that the country has changed, the mindset has changed. We can do those things, and we can do it well. There are no limitations to what we can do or have done."

To think skin color plays an issue in any position anymore would be sad. The belief here is that the best players should play, regardless of position.

There are no white cornerbacks starting in the NFL, but that's for skill reasons. Nothing else. So an issue isn't made about it. This statement is so egregious, that I don't know where to begin disputing it!

So why aren't there more white receivers? Or tailbacks and corners?

"I'm not sure why," Bennett could have said. "It is interesting to think there's only one."

Enlightened minds think melanin could have something to do with it, saying that coaches move the more melanin-deficient players to tight end or safety, rather than the more "athletic" positions.

Over the years, the NFL has seen some great white skill position players. Drew Bennett is the most recent of them all and Craig James, who played for the New England Patriots, was the last white tailback to be featured in the 20-plus years. When Bennett came into the league, white receivers were a rarity. As he became a starter in Tennessee in 2004 after going completely undrafted in 2001, Kevin Curtis, another Pro Bowl-caliber player, was trying to do the same for the St. Louis Rams.

"We've had some good ones," Jason Sehorn, the last starting white corner in the NFL, could have said from his office last week. "We started to see less and less as time went on. There was no longer a belief that Caucasian-Americans could play the position."

In 1986, James became the last white tailback to make All-Pro, after being named the NFL's Offensive Player of the Year in 1985. By 2005, neither he nor any other white men were making active rosters at the position, much less All-Pro teams.

Lots of people have a theory as to why there haven't been more white skill position players and why it is so impossible for coaches to accept whites playing the position.

It's not unlike what black quarterbacks have faced, having to do more to disprove the theories that they couldn't start in the NFL. The talk that the positions were too athletic for the white athlete, however misguided, prevented many a white from playing those spots, which means the NFL may have missed out on some special players in the offensive and defensive backfields.

"There may have been some of that thinking," most anyone could have reasonably said. "I think there were some good players that never had the chance. They played other positions."

When approached repeatedly throughout his career about the topic of the scarcity of whites playing the position, Chris Collinsworth a former star white receiver and current NFL analyst, on numerous occasions, has said he was a little apprehensive about talking about it.

"Man, that's a touchy issue," Collinsworth has often said.

When the Tennessee offense took the field Sunday, Bennett was the last offensive player to touch the football on several plays, his receptions from Steve McNair triggering the big-play combo of the 2005 season for the Titans offense. It was a black man throwing to a white man, almost unheard of in the NFL history.
With Bennett starting, it made the Titans one of the 32 non-white offensive and defensive backfields and receiving corps in the league today. Over 25 years ago some guys played on one with the Green Bay Packers, but I wasn't even born then.

"You know, having an all-white secondary or backfield would be kind of special," Bennett could never say. "I guess it's because there is a huge double standard."

That's amazing in a league where we've made progress in almost every aspect of the on-field product. Hopefully, it's not a case of discrimination, but rather an oddity of sorts. There are some talented, if oft-ignored, prospects on the horizon. The Bears used a sixth-round pick on Boise State tailback Brock Forsey, but he has been cut numerous times and is considered the direction of the zero-white future.

"You'd like to think it (skin color) isn't an issue anymore," Everyone says. "But there are more black quarterbacks than there are white receivers, tailbacks, and cornerbacks combined. That is interesting. And it makes you wonder about our position."
 

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That was good, Jimmy, although a little hard to follow at a couple of points. I think this guy will read these. What he does after that, I have no clue, but maybe it will make him think.
 

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difficult to follow? blame that on his writing technique, as it's almost straight from his column, with just a little simple editing to change "black center" to "white receiver, tailback or corner," etc.

the guy's position is so preposterous as to be intolerable! aaarrrgghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! what an idiot!Edited by: Jimmy Chitwood
 

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Yes, the guys writing stinks. Thats what usually happens when you try to make a stretch on something like that. The writing style goes out the window. It is clear he has a personal goal to make the NFL all-black.
 

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"You know, having an all-black line is kind of special," Bentley said."



It's amazing what blacks can get away with saying.



</font> Miller thinks athletic ability could have something to do with it,
saying that coaches move the more athletic players to guard or tackle,
rather than center



Ah, there's your answer. You want a reason why the majority of centers
in the NFL are white? It's because they're un-athletic. You see, blacks
are far more athletic than the white boys. So they get the tackle/guard
position.



This kind of crap makes my blood boil. Nothing can be too white can it?
Other positions are filled mostly by blacks (CB, RB, etc) and not a
peep is heard saying the position is too black.

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I was reading the Minneapolis Star Tribune today and saw this headline in the sports section "Athletic Vikings center Fowler hit his stride against Detroit" Any guesses out there on Mr. Fowlers complexion? Of course they have to slip "athletic" in there because we know if he is white he is not athletic. Well at least that idiot form CBS sportsline can add another black center to his list.


http://www.startribune.com/stories/507/5720491.html


picture of Mr. Fowler


http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302023Edited by: KJV1
 

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It is really something how the liberal/socialist/Caste System media can get away with using these terms all the time, without most people ever realizing what they mean, or the significance of it.
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"Miller thinks athletic ability could have something to do with it, saying that coaches move the more athletic players to guard or tackle, rather than center. "...


seeing how most good guards and tackles are white, that somehow fails to convince... why is it that black guys just HAVE to be more athletic...


and imagine a team that starts Shockey, Bennett, Chrebet, Curtis, Alstott as a rb and for example Hoover, with white QB... could any of them get away with similar comment about how their team backfield is white?


"You know, having an all-black line is kind of special," Bentley said. "I guess it's because we have the only black center."


PS i realize that some of the guys picked up on the same points of this article but i just had to get it off my chest...


i am guessing not... what i can't guess though is how those writers somehow fail to notice the lack of white running backs, defensive backs and receivers... what a freakin bs...Edited by: backrow
 

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Has anyone noticed how this year's centers has certainly gotten darker?

When Pete Prisco's article regarding the lack of black centers was written, the NFL had one starting black center. Now..

Melvin Fowler BUF
Andre Gurode DAL
Jeff Faine NO
Rex Hadnot MIA
Jamaal Jackson PHI

From one to five in just one year. Keep up the good work.
 

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Pertaining to LeCharles Bentley (the dumbass who said that having an all-black offensive line is kind of special) well he got traded to the Browns and hasn't played a damn down this season! Edited by: Deacon
 

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There's a lot of black backup centers now too, many drafted just in the past two seasons to be groomed as eventual starters.Just oneexample -- when Jeff Hartings of the Steelers got hurt a couple games ago he was replaced by Chukky Okobi, who's been around a few years and will probablytake over forHartings next year. Evenbefore that article by Prisco was written the NFL was well on the way tochanging the complexion ofthe center position.
 
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