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credit goes to porthos on this one:
i'm very happy that black brazilian juan jesus cost 3 points to internazionale in their latest match:

[video=youtube_share;m_hjWC4dZQM]http://youtu.be/m_hjWC4dZQM[/video]

he was the worst player of the match, he had the worst rating, received a yellow card, and was guilty on the 2 goals scored by siena:
http://www.milanotoday.it/sport/inter-siena-voti-fantacalcio-pagelle.html
 

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lazio won his first 3 matches of serie A, but then black central defender from french ligue 1 mikael ciani became titular

he was guilty in the first defeat of the season against genoa, and was incredibly bad in the thrashing of lazio by napoli 3-0 (could have been 5-0 easily)

here are the ratings of the match: http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/?action=read&idnotizia=28696

i know that they say that ciani was the worst player of the match, but if somebody who understands italian could translate what they say about him and the other black defenders it would be great
 

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lazio won his first 3 matches of serie A, but then black central defender from french ligue 1 mikael ciani became titular

he was guilty in the first defeat of the season against genoa, and was incredibly bad in the thrashing of lazio by napoli 3-0 (could have been 5-0 easily)

here are the ratings of the match: http://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/?action=read&idnotizia=28696

i know that they say that ciani was the worst player of the match, but if somebody who understands italian could translate what they say about him and the other black defenders it would be great

Here's the comment from the above site on Ciani (considered the worst player in the field and graded 4 on a scale from 1 to 10):

"Always late, lacks focus, tired/breathless. The strong defender seen against Genoa does not exist anymore, he gets even the most elementary passes wrong. Insigne makes him look like a fool, is fouled, penalty. Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde, it is to be hoped the "real" Ciani is no the one seen this evening."

Ciani made a dumb foul inside the penalty area after Insigne was playing can-and-mouse dribbling him and Napoli was awarded a penalty that Cavani missed. Here are the match highlights http://soccernet.espn.go.com/video/espnfc/video?id=1172391&categoryid=843016 .
 

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Here's the comment from the above site on Ciani (considered the worst player in the field and graded 4 on a scale from 1 to 10):

"Always late, lacks focus, tired/breathless. The strong defender seen against Genoa does not exist anymore, he gets even the most elementary passes wrong. Insigne makes him look like a fool, is fouled, penalty. Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde, it is to be hoped the "real" Ciani is no the one seen this evening."

Ciani made a dumb foul inside the penalty area after Insigne was playing can-and-mouse dribbling him and Napoli was awarded a penalty that Cavani missed. Here are the match highlights http://soccernet.espn.go.com/video/espnfc/video?id=1172391&categoryid=843016 .

thanks for the translation

since it seems that they don't know what kind of player they bought, i'll tell you what kind of player he is

ciani is just a physical black player with no skills and no intelligence

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now let's have a look at his career, something that lazio obviously didn't do:

-->he was bought by bordeaux at the start of the 2009-2010 season
bordeaux won the league the season before
now with ciani and white defender planus as central defenders they did a good first half of the season and it looked like they would retain their title
they had an 8 points lead at the half of the season
ciani scored an owngoal in champions league vs bayern munchen: http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/bordeaux-0-1-bayern-munich-ciani-og
ciani was called for the french national team because of bordeaux's good results: he played against spain in france during a friendly match
unfortunately france was totally humiliated during this match, especially ciani
after this humiliation: http://youtu.be/ojxFIH1IqfI ciani was never called again in the french national team

-->then during the second half of the season ciani was exposed as a clownish defender, because white defender marc planus was injuried, so they played with 2 black central defenders
3 days after his humiliation vs spain, he got a red card after just 31 minutes in the first half against montpellier
then just after this he was clownish again in the final of the french cup against marseille, ruining the effort of the club to retain this title that they also won the past season (with white defender planus being voted best player of the final when they won it)

then in the first leg of the champions league quarter final vs lyon he makes his team lose again, he was absolutely pathetic and guilty on each goal
here is the first goal of the match with a bad mistake by ciani: http://rutube.ru/video/57d2765755557f2cab660dd2bd3e3fa1/

in the rest of the season he got another red card and bordeaux finishes at a very disapointing 7th place

-->then in the next season (2010-2011) under new coach jean tigana ciani plays less but highlights of this season for him include a pathetic 5-1 defeat to lorient, where he was clownish, and a few weeks later they lost 4-0 at home against sochaux, the biggest defeat in more than 30 years for the club
during this match ciani was so bad that he was replaced after just 35 minutes in the first half (all of the 4 goals of the match were scored while he played ofcourse)

-->during the 2011-2012 season, under new coach gillot, ciani had an horrible first half of the season

he scored an owngoal in the first match of the season vs saint etienne:

[video=youtube_share;RYXeEuSG3zE]http://youtu.be/RYXeEuSG3zE[/video]

then against auxere he was guilty again, his team was leading 1-0 but then he was very late and he deflected the shot of a striker into his own net, and bordeaux lost 2 points because of him

he was no longer a titular

but he still managed to make his team lose: during a match vs dijon, his team was dominating and the score was 0-0
but then at half time ciani came in because a white defender was injuried during the first half
ciani was horrible and bordeaux lost 2-0 (here is a picture making fun of his performance: http://horsjeu.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ciani_dijon_bordeaux.jpg "my team is dominant, i come in at half time, we lose 2-0: like a boss" there are many others made by bordeaux fans making fun of him: http://a3.idata.over-blog.com/300x216/0/59/06/20/CIANI-450x324.jpg http://beatprof.mygirondins.com/files/2011/11/BORDEAUX_CIANI_010809.jpg )
bordeaux was in a relegation position
after this match, he was no longer part of the team and didn't play in the rest of the first half of the season

then in the second part of the season gillot decided to play with 5 defenders including 3 central defenders, because bordeaux no longer had good players so they decided to play like a bad relegation-bound club
ciani made less mistakes in the second halh of the season because there were 3 central defenders (but still had many bad matches, like against evian thonon gaillard, ajaccio, and dijon)
but the bordeaux fans are very disappointed to go from a team that won the league with yohann gourcuff the genius, to a team which starts up to 7-8 blacks and looks clueless, with no skilled players

and then lazio decided to buy him
they should have asked me (or any french fan) who was ciani, they would have saved 2 millions euros :icon_lol:
2 millions, that's the price napoli paid for 21 years old brazilian international bruno uvini with italian passport
not to mention that back then alessandro nesta didn't cost them anything because he was trained at lazio from early age (as a local player)
 
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in this action:

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the black defender wanted to use his physique on paris saint germain's white star ibrahimovc, but unfortunately (for him) ibrahimovic is stronger, taller (1,95m, 6 ft 5) and he is never affraid of these black physical defenders

ecuele manga the black defender is now injuried (knee injury) and will not play again this season most likely (he got the most serious injury that you can have in soccer)
 

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ferdinand had an horrible match vs tottenham (3-2 for tottenham):

Though he did improve in the second half, Rio Ferdinand by all accounts had an absolute nightmare game against Tottenham Saturday.
His lack of pace was ruthlessly exploited on several occasions by Bale, as the defender really began to look his age in the face of a younger, fitter model.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nham-rating-the-united-players-in-loss/page/4

also barcelona struggled against sevilla in the spanish league
puyol and piqué are injuried, so they have to play with song as a central defender
they dd the same last year with abidal, and it they lost points because of this, points that were proven to be crucial since barcelona lost the title that year:
abidal was horrible against valencia last year: http://rutube.ru/video/369027b364e93676b7e2260a787c4ba9/
and he was responsible for a dumb goal that cost barcelona important points too: http://youtu.be/OYyOvYIlv_w

what is happening with song right now is very similar:

Alex Song Is Not the Answer


First of all, it must be said that Alex Song has been a great signing for Barcelona so far.
He is a great passer, strong, tough, and exactly the type of aerial and physical presence in midfield that the team has needed.
But, speaking frankly, he is not the answer in defense.

Luckily for him, Barcelona's possession football will limit the amount of chances he gets to make a mistake.
There also aren't a lot of teams in La Liga that can take advantage of his weaknesses.
Unfortunately, the kinds of teams that can abuse him will only be seen in the Champions League where one or two mistakes could be all it takes to get knocked out of the tournament.


Against Sevilla, we saw the best and worst of Song.
We saw him make some great sliding tackles and interceptions that killed off Sevilla's attack, we saw him venturing forward to aid in attack, we saw his height become a valuable tool defending set pieces.
But we also saw him get lost at the back. When Sevilla came on the counter and he had to close off lanes, Song would often get caught looking around for his defender just as a key pass opened up his marker.
Song is often praised for being a physical player, but Negredo showed that being a physical midfielder and being a strong, physical center back are two very different things.

The Cameroonian just doesn't have the right combination of brute strength and positional awareness to take on a strong striker by himself.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ng-points-from-the-controversial-match/page/5
 

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marseille and their black defenders and goalkeeper were exposed today

black goalkeeper mandanda who plays for the french national team had the worst mistake of the year so far:

[video=youtube_share;nKrKLbJ2EAs]http://youtu.be/nKrKLbJ2EAs[/video]

so congratulations to him

other mistakes by him from other seasons:
http://rutube.ru/video/e75fb43accd78a49f89c4d9e2e938c44/
http://rutube.ru/video/2d00419eaf725306ad97fa4880a4ec21/
http://youtu.be/o4qQAAd_aK0

on another goal, here's black central defender rod fanny patiently waiting until the forward takes the ball from him: http://youtu.be/1HtswjQ31pg

marseille lost 4-1 (and there was 3-0 at half time, 4-0 until the 90th minute)

also from the french league:

black goalkeeper novaes messing up on a powerfull shot: http://youtu.be/zW3JxZ6r8Kg

black defender missing his clearance: http://youtu.be/X81_dpHgi20

in spain: "french" central defender varane being guilty on this goal while the score was 0-0: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xy3bq5_raphael-varane_shortfilms#.UTx6jVfWplM
there was also cross on which varane did a fould that should have been a penalty but the referee rightfully gave an offside so varane's foul had no consequence
real madrid needs to stop the black central defender experiment otherwise they won't have any chance to win the champions league
 
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champions league, dortmund vs manchester city:

http://rutube.ru/video/3573e6a12fe6a2bebc5065dbf00dcf78/#.UHFdYVG0hlM

The German champions took the lead when Marco Reus pounced on a poor cross-field pass from City substitute Jack Rodwell to race clear and finish past City keeper Joe Hart on 61 minutes.

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/sports...-with-dortmund/article4586956/?service=mobile


here's his first mistake this season:

[video=dailymotion;xu2c9s]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu2c9s_rodwell_sport[/video]

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...ders-2012-2013?p=255920&viewfull=1#post255920
 
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a black defender scoring an owngoal in an acrobatic position for bordeaux in europa league:

http://rutube.ru/video/e1c2f890a3dcd0bc7fe3843f2150cde1/#.UHBTkFG0hlM

and in europa league too, black defender koné from lyon, mentionned multiple times last year, was guilty on every goal scored against lyon by a small israelian club:

[video=youtube_share;L75qmo7tO-k]http://youtu.be/L75qmo7tO-k[/video]

on the second goal he passes the ball to the referee, thinking that he was a team mate :icon_lol:

the suporters were very angry because lyon was leading in israel and koné allowed them to put the score at 3-3
then lyon managed to score in injury time and win 4-3 but the suporters are very angry at koné
koné was said to be a great prospect last year in central defence, but he's no longer titular this season
 

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LOL...I like the song in that Boumsong. It goes well with the video

he looks like the disney character baloo (don't know if he has the same name in english speaking countries): http://youtu.be/ZU7B6lRVv6U

while looking at other black defenders who played for lyon i remembered pape diakhaté
he was one of the worst defenders i ever saw
so i decided to do a summary of his season with lyon, like i did with ciani: http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...ders-2012-2013?p=259089&viewfull=1#post259089
i like talking about these classic black defenders, so many good memories, at the time i wasn't posting here but i was already keeping track of the mistakes of some black defenders :

inacceptable-diakhate-101906.jpg


pape diakhaté came to lyon before the 2010-2011 season
when he came to the club lyon was the most successfull french club in history (they were champions for 7 seasons in a row) and they just reached the semi finals of the champions league

but here's pape diakhité's contribution during this 2010-2011 season when lyon lost the french title for the first time in 8 years:

in the french league:

**this mastake vs lens: http://rutube.ru/video/621619b4382362acdb4a2552012f0bff/#.UHBZIlG0hlN

**this one against arles avignon was really costly because lyon lost 3 points in this match against the club ranked dead last of the league: http://rutube.ru/video/90a299d9f9d10b31f707700721650165/#.UHBZb1G0hlO

**but pape diakhaté is the kind of player that shines in the most important matches
when lyon faced nice, they had to win otherwise they would have no hope left to win the league
this is the momment when pape did the best match in his short career:
http://rutube.ru/video/0e8ca88cfe47cb14aca12755adb6416e/#.UHBY7lG0hlN

he gifted 2 really dumb penalties in a match that lyon would have won easily otherwise
he also got a red card
after this performance he was insulted by fans during the training sessions and cris, the legendary lyon defender, said that he prefered to play with lovren (croatian defender)

lyon lost the title in that match
here are lloris and cris insulting pape , with english subtitltes:
[video=youtube_share;BWufnVrG1zA]http://youtu.be/BWufnVrG1zA[/video]

cris also says "i told you not to do so pape!" :icon_lol:




in champions league:
lyon was perfect during the first 3 matches of the groupstage, and they had to finish in first place of the group because otherwise they would have faced real madrid in 8th of finals
but in the last 3 matches of the group stages pape diakhité showed his skills:

**he was humiliated vs benfica, the score was only 4-3 at the end of the match but there was 4-0 i believe until pape diakhaté was substituted

**vs schalke 04 he was humiliated again: http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/schalke-1-0-lyon-farfan1

**then all lyon had to do was win against a small israelian club to finish in first position of the group and avoid real madrid in the next round
but here came pape diakhité again!
they drew against hapoel tel aviv again because of pape's mistakes
here he's not following the other defenders so the israelian striker is put onside because of him: http://rutube.ru/video/24efcffc0f27b94048f1d6225c217ff4/#.UHBZWlG0hlN

so lyon faced real madrid in the next round because they finished in second position of the group, and ofcourse they lost

it was the only season that pape played with lyon, he disappeared after this , i think that he's in spain but i'm not sure if he still plays football
 

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2nd owngal of the season for rincon already: http://youtu.be/hUt16J8vPhk

black goal keeper ali ahamada, thought to be the future of the french national team: http://youtu.be/yay2kqeFWzk

valencienne's black players.... http://youtu.be/dRMBGDrbnYs

daniel congré cost another 3 points to montpellier, montpellier surprisingly ( :icon_rolleyes: ) looks like they won't retain their title this year now that giroud left, they'll battle against relegation instead: http://youtu.be/ZalfXZjUGr8

"french" international mapou yanga mbiwa was also guilty on this goal: http://youtu.be/IZVWWIw5CXE
he was suspended with the french national team because he commited a foul against belarus (he offered the penalty to belarus) an he'll also be suspended in the fench league for 5 matches for this: http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...tsmanship-quot?p=258748&viewfull=1#post258748

yet he's still called in the french national team
 

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great own goal by black defender paredes, in ecuador-chile, qualifying for the 2014 world cup:

[video=youtube_share;w7d8GnRKBP4]http://youtu.be/w7d8GnRKBP4[/video]
 

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ome black defenders from the past:

djimi traoré from liverpool:

[video=youtube_share;rAjSFStLIiw]http://youtu.be/rAjSFStLIiw[/video]

with his legendary owngoal at 0.56

and sulley muntary from internazionale:

http://youtu.be/bOXDqeosDvg

the description:
85 seconds of sheer stupidity from the worse player in Inter Milan's History !!

he came in to secure the result, but offered a penalty and was red carded in 85 seconds!

then he went to ac milan
 

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i have to post this GIF of mandanda's mistake against valenciennes:

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he did this while everybody was asking if lloris could play as titular in the french national team while he's not titular in his new club (tottenham)
but after this mistake and lloris' excellent match against spain, this is over now :icon_lol:
 
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gallas had an horrible match in tottenham's defeat against chelsea:

Gallas, who endured a miserable day defensively, wasted a perfect opportunity to give Spurs the lead after only three minutes when he failed to make firm contact with Gylfi Sigurdsson's free-kick from six yards.

Gallas's headed clearance from Eden Hazard's corner was met by Cahill, who showed perfect technique to send a thunderous volley high past Friedel.

Another poor clearance from Gallas offered Mata the opportunity to shoot low past Friedel from the edge of the area

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19939634


i had no idea that this clown was still playing in premiere league
tottenham whithout bale was very black, maybe 3-4 non black players
 

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I just saw a clip from the first half of the Europa League match between Borussia Monchengladbach and Marseille. (A caveat: I only saw it once and not in slow motion) It looked as if a black Marseille player gave away a terrible penalty, in which he handled it above his own head with both hands! I don't know his name or if he's a defender but it was just an awful hand ball. BM scored from the spot.
 

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I just saw a clip from the first half of the Europa League match between Borussia Monchengladbach and Marseille. (A caveat: I only saw it once and not in slow motion) It looked as if a black Marseille player gave away a terrible penalty, in which he handled it above his own head with both hands! I don't know his name or if he's a defender but it was just an awful hand ball. BM scored from the spot.

that was charles kabore, a goofy defender who can play fullback, defensive middlefielder, centre back ect

he did a great save:

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notice how he comes with his arms fully extended
then he blocks the ball like a goalkeeper would do
too bad that the shot wasn't even dangerous :lol:

by the way, here's a clip from the latest manchester city match in premiere league
edin dzeko saved the team in the last 10 minutes because manchester city were down to 10 men, here is why they were down to 10 men:

[video=dailymotion;xuid2c]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xuid2c_kompany-loses-the-ball_sport[/video]

kompany is getting really exposed this year
he was the only black defender considered world class
 

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today in arsenal - QPR:
QPR had stubbornly kept out Arsenal at the Emirates before the game changed when Rangers defender Stephane Mbia was dismissed after 80 minutes.
Referee Taylor instantly produced a red card when Mbia, who was lying on the ground after being fouled and had already been awarded a free-kick, kicked out at Arsenal defender Thomas Vermaelen.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20112898

black defender mbia dumbly cost his team 1 point at least

and he said that he was calm before the match: http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-arsenal-game-says-stephane-mbia-8224275.html
obviously he was not

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alan hansen exposing kompany...again

[video=dailymotion;xuogj5]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xuogj5_kompany-exposed_sport[/video]

kompany is the big story in this thread, last year he was considered the best defender of premiere league and top 5 in the world, but actually manchester city's defence wasn't convincing, and it was the main reason why they weren't able to get passed the group stages of the champions league

boateng's owngoal for bayern munchen, leading to bayern munchen's first defeat of the season:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xuqbes_boateng-own-goal_sport
 

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black defender from cameroon gaetan bong scored an owngoal vs lille:

http://youtu.be/ZjpFbjf7zrU

but the biggest story was sakho making his team, PSG, lose for the first time in the french league
he scored an owngoal while the score was still 0-0
this clown has now scored as many own-goals as regular goals for PSG (5)

last year he was the one to make PSG miss the title because of an horrible match vs lille (i posted about it in last year's thread), with an absolutely dumb penalty and a red card
as it could be read everywhere after that match against lille: "sakho annihilates PSG's hopes of winning the title"

now he gets PSG to lose for the first time in the french league
ancelotti needs to be more intelligent
if he wants to have black players, he can have black defensive middlefielders or black fullbacks, like most top european teams
but not a black central defender

PSG have 3 central defenders that can play, 2 brazilians (alex and tiago silva) and sakho (lugano never plays, i have no idea why)
sakho needs to sit on the bench, or he needs to play as a fullback
 
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Lugano really need to play in the place of this baboon.
And this stat is shocking to say the least:


"this clown has now scored as many own-goals as regular goals for PSG (5)"

I mean you could have just put that stat to me randomly,and I would guess(correctly) that the player in question is a black.
Also isn't Sakho captain of PSG??

Also,Kompany was poor all game against West Ham.
And this guy "Clichy" is just a liability of a footballer.I've seen him from his arsenal days and he is really a token black fullback who can run fast-thats about it.
Numerous times he was in advanced positions and not once could he produce a telling ball.Aleksander Kolarov would have had atleast two assists!
 
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