Racist Double Standards in Boxing

[Charles Martel]

"Great White Hope": not considered racist

"Great White Hype": not racist, even a good title for a movie

"Great Black Hope": not an acceptable expression, racist

"Great Black Hype": very racist


Young white boxer beats a older black fighter: Proves nothing, the black fighter was past his prime

Young black boxer beats an older white boxer: Black fighter impressed with his talent


White fighter dominates a division: The division is weak

Black boxer dominates a division: The division is loaded with talent


White boxer goes 40-0 with 28 KOs: A limited boxer who "hasn't fought anybody"

Black boxer goes 40-0 with 28 KOs: Top P4P boxer and ATG great


Mayweather gets one KO in past ten fights: "Floyd is exciting"

Wladimir Klitschko gets 8 KOs in past 10 fights: "Klit doesn't KO opponents early enough"

 

[Wes Woodhead]

White boxer fights mostly in his home nation. Hes scared to fight away from home.

Black boxer fights EXCLUSIVELY in his home town. No big deal.

 

[Charles Martel]

White boxer fights mostly in his home nation. Hes scared to fight away from home.

Black boxer fights EXCLUSIVELY in his home town. No big deal.

Good example.

Floyd Mayweather has never fought outside the USA usually in Las Vegas where he lives and nobody complains. But Ricky Hatton took a lot of criticism for fighting in England.

Andre Ward refused to leave the US during the Super Six and wants all his title fights to be in Oakland, but Joe Calzaghe took a lot of negative criticism for fighting in Wales, even though he also had world title fights in Germany, Scotland, US, Denmark, etc.

 

[Liverlips]

James Toney and Bernard Hopkins routinely made racist comments about white fighters but were never called racist, fined or otherwise given the Paula Dean treatment.

Any white fighter who responded in kind would be drummed from the sport.

 

[Zeus]

"Great White Hope": not considered racist

"Great White Hype": not racist, even a good title for a movie

"Great Black Hope": not an acceptable expression, racist

"Great Black Hype": very racist


Young white boxer beats a older black fighter: Proves nothing, the black fighter was past his prime

Young black boxer beats an older white boxer: Black fighter impressed with his talent


White fighter dominates a division: The division is weak

Black boxer dominates a division: The division is loaded with talent


White boxer goes 40-0 with 28 KOs: A limited boxer who "hasn't fought anybody"

Black boxer goes 40-0 with 28 KOs: Top P4P boxer and ATG great


Mayweather gets one KO in past ten fights: "Floyd is exciting"

Wladimir Klitschko gets 8 KOs in past 10 fights: "Klit doesn't KO opponents early enough"

Excellent topic but I always get impressed with your posts. You are easily the very best and most pro white man (by my standards) in this forum. Keep up the good posts man!

Another one that you missed (like big time):

1. White Olympic champs or World Amateur Champs "So what if those Soviets and rest Eastern Euros dominate amateur boxing for like many decades now, that means nothing. So what if Laszlo Papp or Boris Lagutin or now Vasyl Lomachenko were dominant amateurs, they would probably get smashed in the pros" (keep in mind after a countdown I made, there have been 67 E.Euro world champions who have won 109 major world titles post 1995 that they fight in big numbers, post Iron Curtain. That alone proves the Negroes and self loathing whites wrong)

2. Black Olympic champs, especially Cubans (since they are the only blacks still winning a few medals in major competitions) "Whoah, Whoah, boi you saw dis brotha owning dis Russian motha****a. He da real deal man, I am tellin' ya. Andre Ward is an American Olympic champion and a good role model. His amateur career is da ****, no wonder why he keep rollin' in the pros.........Agh, Agh, Agh, damn you Fidel Castro for not allowing all dese brodas turning pro like my boy Rigondeaux did. They would all be da world champions in da pros too. Fa sho, word. I am tellin' ya!

 

[whiteathlete33]

Excellent topic but I always get impressed with your posts. You are easily the very best and most pro white man (by my standards) in this forum. Keep up the good posts man!

Another one that you missed (like big time):

1. White Olympic champs or World Amateur Champs "So what if those Soviets and rest Eastern Euros dominate amateur boxing for like many decades now, that means nothing. So what if Laszlo Papp or Boris Lagutin or now Vasyl Lomachenko were dominant amateurs, they would probably get smashed in the pros" (keep in mind after a countdown I made, there have been 67 E.Euro world champions who have won 109 major world titles post 1995 that they fight in big numbers, post Iron Curtain. That alone proves the Negroes and self loathing whites wrong)

2. Black Olympic champs, especially Cubans (since they are the only blacks still winning a few medals in major competitions) "Whoah, Whoah, boi you saw dis brotha owning dis Russian motha****a. He da real deal man, I am tellin' ya. Andre Ward is an American Olympic champion and a good role model. His amateur career is da ****, no wonder why he keep rollin' in the pros.........Agh, Agh, Agh, damn you Fidel Castro for not allowing all dese brodas turning pro like my boy Rigondeaux did. They would all be da world champions in da pros too. Fa sho, word. I am tellin' ya!

Blacks hate any and every white champion. You will never see a black rooting for a white fighter., Never! They are stuck on this Deontay "Blackstar" Wilder clown. He will lose soon enough.

 

[werewolf]

"Great White Hope": not considered racist

"Great White Hype": not racist, even a good title for a movie

"...

No, they didn't used to just mock our guys by calling them great white hypes and hopes, but they also called them "great white dopes", and I'm not talking about the little niglets and wiglets on the boxing forums. they just parrot what they see in the media. i'm talking about the mass media. For example here's one clever talmudic fellow, michael zinberg, who named this 1979 tv episode "The Great White Dope", and you can see what's probably a hapless white athlete in the back row. And that's why I call them great black dopes now.

 

[Zeus]

Man......you I have "studied" in the "University of Yahoo Boxing Forum" and I have LITERALLY been their pain in their a s s and the only pro white member in a forum which is LOADED with black supremacists, self-loathing whites and so on. I can keep coming with a double standard day after day hehe. Wait, I came up with a really good one:

Chapter: FANTASY MATHUPS:

1. Great white boxer of today vs all time great Niglet of the past. The actual examples I will give are real, not fictional.
" Joe Calzaghe vs Tiger Flowers who wins? Agh, agh, agh, dat boi Joe Calzaghe is so overrated. If he was black he would be no special, I am tellin' ya. I know dat Calzaghe is the more modern, taller, bigger and faster boxer but boiiiii had he ever faced a broda like Flowers? They just don't make em boxers like dat nowadays. I predict that Tiger would hunt down the weaker Calzaghe and eventually break him down. Agh, agh, agh, I say Tiger get dis one by TKO in the 11th. Also keep in mind that 5'6 190lbs Sam Langford would KO both these fraud Bitschkos in da same night. Whoahhhhh boi??? You heard it here first "

2. Great black boxer of today (if there's any) vs all time great white of the past.
"Bernard Hopkins vs Harry Greb. Who wins that?
Boi you kiddin? Bernard is the more modern, taller, bigger boxer. He would destroy this overrated bum from the past. Hopkins is the prototype of the new generation of super boxers. Don't compare modern black boxers with old school white bums. Boi you crazy? Hopkins gets this by 3rd round KO, FA SHO!"


Me: "Hey niglet, you contradict yourself with your answers, you were saying about Tiger Flowers............"

Him: "Boi I ain't talkin' to you. You have proved to be a racist. Everybody knows in here that you are a second Hitler. **** you I ain't talkin' to you, you ****in' cracker, I hope Europe dissapears from the map, I hope y'all die from HIV. One bomb from our president and lights out in all Europe. F u c k y'all stiffy pasty white m o d a fockers!

Self loathing white boxing fan: " You owned him Lamar-Watermelonandre-KFCer's brah. You owned that racist European fool. You spoke the truth. I wish more white people were as open-minded and colorblind as you man. I wish we had more whites like you man, you are awesome I ain't hatin'.........Someone once told me I am boxing like a black boxer.....Am I not awesome??"

 

[werewolf]

The boxing forums are filthy with those pests, Zeuss. You'd need to spray them with a giant aerosol bomb that's guaranteed to clean out niglet and wiglet infestations before they become fit for human habitation

Oh, I forgot to post the link to Mr Michael Zinberg's motion picture classic "The Great White Dope".

Here it is and it looks like you can watch the full episode for free. I just watched the beginning where it shows a white kid who says he wants to be a boxer and he says he thinks he can win, and then it goes straight to a scene showing a negro pounding him in the face. I might have watched more but there are interminable commercials.

http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi3292397593/?ref_=tt_ov_vi

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0747580/

 

[white is right]

The boxing forums are filthy with those pests, Zeuss. You'd need to spray them with a giant aerosol bomb that's guaranteed to clean out niglet and wiglet infestations before they become fit for human habitation

Oh, I forgot to post the link to Mr Michael Zinberg's motion picture classic "The Great White Dope".

Here it is and it looks like you can watch the full episode for free. I just watched the beginning where it shows a white kid who says he wants to be a boxer and he says he thinks he can win, and then it goes straight to a scene showing a negro pounding him in the face. I might have watched more but there are interminable commercials.

http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi3292397593/?ref_=tt_ov_vi

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0747580/

If you watch the episode on Hulu the name aside, the story is about Italian American Salami(played by pale blonde Timothy Van Patton) fighting Smokers for extra money. He is pitted against grown men who out weigh him and are a good ten years older. His basketball coach finds out and watches the fights and is dismayed at the street fighting rules and the disregard for an obvious minor. He ends up getting Carlos Palamino's pops to beg Salami's father to train Salami before he is punchy by his 30th birthday. At the end of the episode Salami agrees to try amateur boxing if Palamino's dad and his father co-train him. The dope part was supposedly because Salami was getting his head kicked in for about the inflationary equivalent of about 70 dollars in today's money.

 

[werewolf]

WIR -

Is it worth watching? Do I owe Mr Zinberg an apology? But it's not like that was the only time "great white dope" was used referring to white boxers, especially heavyweight contenders, and even if Mr Z was only using it benignly in this instance he was still using it because it was a commonly heard phrase in the media at the time. Larry Holmes called Gerry Cooney a "great white dope" and went on about how no one would have ever heard about him if he wasn't white, and bla bla bla, the usual. And by the way why did Mr Z name the white fighter "Salami"? To mock him? To mock Italians?

ww

 

[white is right]

WIR -

Is it worth watching? Do I owe Mr Zinberg an apology? But it's not like that was the only time "great white dope" was used referring to white boxers, especially heavyweight contenders, and even if Mr Z was only using it benignly in this instance he was still using it because it was a commonly heard phrase in the media at the time. Larry Holmes called Gerry Cooney a "great white dope" and went on about how no one would have ever heard about him if he wasn't white, and bla bla bla, the usual. And by the way why did Mr Z name the white fighter "Salami"? To mock him? To mock Italians?

ww

It's okay. In one scene his classmates razz him about fighting in underground boxing matches by interviewing him and one teammate does a Howard Cosell interview. I think Salami was chosen as a knickname because the blonde Van Patten doesn't really look Italian(stereotypically) so it's to keep the watchers on point on his ethnicity. Basically all of the White characters are stereotypes, one season they have an Irish street fighter type , Salami has his cousin staying with him and Goldstein is a nerdy Jew.....

 

[werewolf]

Well if they're going to call that guy Tommy Salami they oughta call the negro Leroy Watermelon and the Jew Irving Matzoball. Maybe I'll watch it later for historical interest if nothing else.

 

[Farmboxer]

The is what the American media is doing with Wilder. Wilder refused to fight Thompson because he knew he would get knocked out. Wilder should fight Wach. Both Klitschko will KO Wilder and so will most other top white fighters.

 

[werewolf]

...Wilder should fight Wach

Wasn't Wach banned for a year? If so the year will be up in 2 1/2 months.

 

[Charles Martel]

Wasn't Wach banned for a year? If so the year will be up in 2 1/2 months.

The ban was shortened to six months.

He's going to be sparring with Haye, and the Polish media says he's scheduled to fight on Oct 5.

 

[Charles Martel]

The Ring HW rankings still include David Haye, even though he hasn't fought since July 2012.

He's ranked very high at #2 for an inactive boxer without a belt, ahead of more deserving people like Kubrat Pulev.

The Ring quickly dropped off Vitali Klitschko, the WBC champion, when he passed 12 months inactive on September 8, 2013.

Race-based double standard?

 

[Charles Martel]

The fans of a white heavyweight champion are called "white supremacists", while the fans of a black heavyweight champion "can appreciate a great fighter".

 

[Rap Is Crap]

If a white boxer fights a defensive cautious style of hitting and not getting hit, he's considered boring. But if a black boxer fights that same style, he's considered a "genius" of the sweet science. Many "experts" and DWFs believe only black boxers can be defensively good without much criticism. This is why they praise Mayweather and Hopkins while bashing on the Klitschkos. The tnb that they show could also have a lot to do with it. So if the Klitschkos were to start acting like wiggers maybe then the jew media will give them credit.

 

[Truthman]

I swear those LDBC type guys even call Tyson Fury a great white hope when hes number 1, they even say it to Lomachenko. Crazy ignorant racist pricks.

When you think of how the HW division is right now (and how its largely been for the last 25 years) with Usyk and Fury as the champs and clear top 2 best beating up black boy after black boy. You'd think it'd be acceptable to use the term Great Black Hope (considering its fine to use it the other way around), but no say that term and you'll be banned on boxing forums for racism.

 

[white lightning]

I swear those LDBC type guys even call Tyson Fury a great white hope when hes number 1, they even say it to Lomachenko. Crazy ignorant racist pricks.

When you think of how the HW division is right now (and how its largely been for the last 25 years) with Usyk and Fury as the champs and clear top 2 best beating up black boy after black boy. You'd think it'd be acceptable to use the term Great Black Hope (considering its fine to use it the other way around), but no say that term and you'll be banned on boxing forums for racism.

Excellent points. Between the Klitschkos holding the title for years and years to the current champs both Usyk and Fury. Whites have
dominated the Heavyweight divison for well over 2 decades. It's great to see as the media and fans always said there would never be
another white heavy weight champ! Just like in track where they said a white would never run the 100 meters under 10 seconds. The
media and so called anti white racists were wrong on both counts. It's all just propaganda. Everything you see and read these days.

 

[Truthman]

White fighter dominates a division: The division is weak

Black boxer dominates a division: The division is loaded with talent

Some great points in this thread. And I really notice this one a lot on forums recently ^

They did it with the Klitschho's era, and they are doing it with the Usyk/Fury era now.