Preparing for a dark 2011

[athleticwhiteman]

Hello. I've been a lurker on here for a while and finally decided to make an account. I was looking At some teams for 2011-2012 (can never start to early) and became worried that this season would be even darker than last. Now my dream scenario would be two white qb's playing for the national championship, white player winning Heisman, and a lot of breakout white players at caste positions like RB, WR, or DB.
But obviously that didn't happen this year. And I think it could get worse this year. There are a lot more black qb's this year ( didnt count them yet but at first glance it looks like more). And there are a lot of coal black teams who could contend this year. So my question is, should i be worried or is it all in my head and we should actually have a better year than last? I'm hoping for the latter because i don't think I could take another black heisman, black national championship, and black afflete qb's everywhere. What is your early forecast for the 2011-2012 college football season?

 

[celticdb15]

No. Every year there are guys that step up for programs around the country. Most of them are 2 star recruits that are counted out right away. But every year due to suspensions, injuries, and grades, they move up the depth chart. As a whole whites are by far the better "student athlete" I think in our society we forget that these are students first. I wouldn't worry, stick around the site because we always do a good job of previewing some of our studs for the upcoming year. Welcome to castefootball!

 

[jaxvid]

Fairly decent trolling post above. Makes it sound like he's concerned about white players but gets in a comment about how he's worried that blacks are going to 'dominate' everything. Yeah sure you are.

Ok pal, let me comfort you. Yes the NCAA will still be pimping black thugs as super affaletes that have to play everywhere, even at the QB position where they are generally horrible, and yes colleges will still run offenses geared around a running QB that will get drafted high (if he's black----ignored, insulted, or forced to change position if he's white).

And despite them being illiterate, ignorant, and criminal they will still fill their rosters up with black players while ignoring white high school players with similar and even better measureables and attitude. But rest assured, a change is coming. Not even the most brain dead DWF (drunk white fan) can ignore the caste system forever. and with guys like you helping out we are opening more and more eyes everyday.

So thanks for joining and boosting our membership! It helps us reach more people and increases our effectiveness.

 

[athleticwhiteman]

Trolling post? When did i say blacks would dominate everything? I said i was worried that blacks would win the national title and Heisman again. If you ask me wouldn't that be a concern of everybody on this site because it would hurt our cause? I don't know how you got trolling out of that.

 

[FootballDad]

Boy, jaxvid, you must be having a tough day! I didn't get the impression that athleticwhiteman thought that blacks would "dominate", but that based on recruiting and offseason hype, that more teams than ever were going to be flush with affletic "talent" and god-awful black signal-callers.

Besides that, I thought the rest of your post, besides the surly attitude, to be spot-on.

Welcome to the boards, athleticwhiteman! As jaxvid said, this is the way it is every Spring, with schools touting all of their manufactured four and five-star (always black, for some mysterious reason) recruits. And every year, many of the no-star walk-ons (almost exclusively white, another thing to ponder) outperform their darker-hued teammates. So, keep the faith, and post about the myriad outstanding white players.

 

[Don Wassall]

I really can't understand why so many new posters here are made to feel unwelcome. If athleticwhiteman's first post is clearly that of a "troll," I guess we're all trolls here. Jeesh!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

athleticwhiteman, welcome to Caste Football! Remember that the media always hypes non-white athletes so it isn't something to get upset about. Things have actually improved in the college game a bit over the last few years. I think the following info might allay some of your fears. Of course, we can't be satisfied with these small increases. Although we've seen things get better than they were in '07 and '08, we need to keep talking up White athletes and publicizing them as much as possible if we are to see an end to the Caste System. The '10 numbers are from the second week of the last college football season. White players tend to rise to the top over the course of fall camp and during the first few weeks of the season. Predictions made early in the year about a team's starters usually end up differing quite a bit from the actual starters.

Number of teams that started at least 11 whites out of 22 positions since 2005
2005-35 teams out of 89-used non-black criteria
2006-36 teams out of all 119-used non-black criteria
2007-26 teams out of all 120-used non-black criteria
2008-26 teams out of all 120-used strict criteria
2009-33 teams out of all 120-used strict criteria
2010-36 teams out of all 120-used strict criteria

Number of teams that started at least 10 whites out of 22 positions since 2005
2005-43 teams out of 89-used non-black criteria

2006-48 teams out of all 119-used non-black criteria

2007-37 teams out of all 120-used non-black criteria

2008-36 teams out of all 120-used strict criteria

2009-47 teams out of all 120-used strict criteria

2010-48 teams out of all 120-used strict criteria

 

[sport historian]

I really can't understand why so many new posters here are made to feel unwelcome.  If athleticwhiteman's first post is clearly that of a "troll," I guess we're all trolls here.  Jeesh!

I've been posting here since this Forum's inception and was called a troll (or worse) several months ago.

 

[foobar75]

I really can't understand why so many new posters here are made to feel unwelcome.  If athleticwhiteman's first post is clearly that of a "troll," I guess we're all trolls here.  Jeesh!

I, too, have noticed this recent trend. New posters don't even get the benefit of the doubt beginning with their first posts! Now, if someone's first post is a personal attack on a current member or is clearly anti-white/pro-afflete, then the troll is very easy to spot. But as of late, even people with somewhat moderate views with whom we may not agree all the time are getting criticized right off the bat. This can't possibly help the CF cause or increase the membership rolls.

Trolls will eventually give themselves up, it happens all the time. It may take 10-15 posts, but ultimately their true colors will be unveiled. Otherwise, I think we should welcome people and give them a chance to participate and be part of the CF community.

 

[Deadlift]

athleticwhiteman,

From my documentation of White linebackers' and d-linemen, I have seen an increase in the number of highly-productive White phenoms! What do you think about those positions?

What do you think about Tanner Brock, Tank Carder, Luke Kuechly, Derek Wolfe, Jared Crick, Audie Cole, Max Bullough, Andrew Sweat, J.R. Sweezy, Tom Wort, Dan Giordano, Chase Thomas, Chas Alecxih, etc etc??

 

[FootballDad]

C'mon, give the newbie a break! I guess certain posters here are so trigger happy, that every new poster is just a troll, we'll just become a "country club" for veteran posters and that's it. I agree with Don, based on what you, Truthteller, are saying, we must all be trolls, because for some reason, we ain't all grammatically perfect, and some folks like run-on sentences.......

athleticwhiteman, I'd like to hear more about what you think about the plight of the white athlete. Every poster here was new at one point, and not an "expert" at casteonomics.

 

[athleticwhiteman]

Footballdad I am disappointed with the lack of white players in sports, particularly in football. I first came on this site after watching this video on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9PK8ufEfr8 It was about quarterback prospects with the strongest arms. Four out of the 5 they mentioned were black. I know they could have put more white kids on there but chose not too. Thats why I came on this site. I'm angry with how they portray the white players as not as good as the black players. That video is what really made me want to do something about these anti white recruiting service. I thought i would be talking about sports on here and not being called a troll. But I guess i was wrong.

 

[Deadlift]

I think our point is.. we already know that an "essentially black team" will probably win the "National Championship."

A team like Stanford could make a run, but, generally, teams' like Iowa and Wisconsin don't get the best QBs. Regardless of who gets the NC, there are still a significant number of White impact-athletes in the FBS and their performances are not negated by the current "Bowl System."

Knowledge is power, and the hardcore posters on this site aren't easily emasculated by the MSMs pro-black agenda in sports.

 

[Truthteller]

I thought i would be talking about sports on here and not being called a troll. But I guess i was wrong.

Well, you are no longer being called a troll, so there is no reason to even use theterm 'troll' again. Hopefully you will be a quality poster for some period of time here at CF, because after all my posts in this thread were deleted without explanation (I spent at least 30 minutesreplying to your posts)I think I willstay away fromthis sitefor a few weeks, at the very least.

By the way, on final thing:Colonel_Reb was nice enough to give you a detailed answer, perhaps you can, at least,thank him?

 

[SuperSpeed23]

Athleticwhiteman welcome to castefootball. Its a shame your introduction here wasnt the best but if you stick around youl see itll be worth it. I dont always post but i go on here everyday to keep myself in the loop. If your serious about supporting white athletes this is the place to be.

 

[Don Wassall]

Well, you are no longer being called a troll, so there is no reason to even use theterm 'troll' again. Hopefully you will be a quality poster for some period of time here at CF, because after all my posts in this thread were deleted without explanation (I spent at least 30 minutesreplying to your posts)I think I willstay away fromthis sitefor a few weeks, at the very least.

By the way, on final thing:Colonel_Reb was nice enough to give you a detailed answer, perhaps you can, at least,thank him?

Truthteller, I enjoy your posts, but it should have been clear from my post earlier in this thread why your posts were deleted. This is a troll-free site but it isalso a welcoming one. I've seen too many posters that have been bullied off the site based on just one post or a few posts. There was absolutely no justification for going after athleticwhiteman based on his initial post. Maybe your first post on this board and others was brilliant, but new posters often take a while tofit inon an established board. It's not easy to start posting at a place where many of the posters have thousands of posts and I appreciate those that want to be part of the community here. Trolls always give themselves away sooner or later; deconstructing someone's initial post for hints of "heresy" or for grammatical errors is not the way to build the community here.

 

[Truthteller]

Fair enough, Don. But I just wish you had made it clear that you would delete any more posts that dealtwith the topic, so I would not have wasted so much time last night replying to his posts directed at me.

And I agree withyour points,maybe we are a bit too hasty looking for trolls? But because so many show uphere looking to 'stir things up', perhaps some of us get alittle bit too protective? Also,as far as the grammar, I make many errors in haste and can't spell every word or name correctly, no big deal. I just thought his first post was way too sloppy (one long paragraph)and, to his credit, he's cleaned up his next few posts. I think we must make sure we present ourselves in a certain way, because our rivals would love to portray us in very unflattering ways.

In sum, I hope this is the last time the term 'troll'is brought up here. And, again, I hope 'atheticwhiteman' will come back and add a lot to this site. Perhaps instead of just asking what we think about things we covered a zillion times over the years, he'll offer his own unique insights about these topics?

 

[Don Wassall]

I appreciate the protectiveness many have toward CF, but as I've mentioned before the best way to communicate one's concerns is through a PM to me or Jaxvid or White Lightning. I think only those thatare just findingthis site don't realize that it's a troll-free zone as we've done a good job of weeding them out through the years. Some trollsare actually quite amusing to keep around for a while. But posters like athleticwhiteman should be welcomed; if he has an adversarialagenda it will be obvious soon enough.

 

[LabMan]

I come down on the side of Jax,not because he may have overeacted to a post here,we have all done that,but because of what he knows,and where he resides,in my opinion,there is only so much one can take watching the destruction of our country state by state and college campus by college campus,I am not pandering to Jax as I'm sure he knows,as he has had my respect for years,it will be a darker year for college football,but the real damage will be done as each campus and and the college life experience is altered through racial transformation.

 

[Deadlift]

I think I have a great ear to what the MSM is hyping.. LSU (Jordan Jefferson) and Florida State (E.J. Manuel) are at the top.. and, of course, Oregon with Darron Thomas. V-Tech will start another black quarterback. Clemson will likely start their OVERRATED-looking black quarterback.

Ohio State, by playing another weak non-conference schedule, could certainly make a run, and the MSM would love that..

However, I don't see how the NCAA has gotten blacker since last season.. many White recruits really do get late scholie-offers, and this past year was no exception. Several White athletes, from the rather "small pool" of players that I'm able to follow, are going FBS.

And, many black and Poly "studs" have to go the JC-route out of high school.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Only time will tell whether this college football season will be a darker or Whiter one. It is too early to even speculate, imho. We'll know soon enough, and then we'll be able to moan the darkening or celebrate the Whitening with confidence.



Edited by: Colonel_Reb

 

[celticdb15]

McGuffie is due for a breakout year. If him and Zach Line both rush for over 1,000 yards in 2011, I see that as a great year!!

 

[Carolina Speed]

Welcome aboard atleticwhiteman. I have only been posting for a few months myself, but I was welcomed to CF in a little better way. I hope you'll return to CF.

I found this site by simply googling "white running backs". I couldn't believe the prejudices against white athletes.I wouldtry to discuss this with the DWF and they haven't a clue as to what's happening around them. I was very pleased when I stumbled on to this site and found others who understood.

I really appreciate the knowledge and information CF produces. I try to view this site everyday, though with a large family, whoI spend much of my time with, it's difficult to find time post on a regular basis.

I've probably posted some things that have already been covered, but when there's so much out there and you're new, it's hard not to. Also, alot of things we know and understand, some are just waking up to.

While I don't always agree with everything on this forum, I think we all know what the one common goal is!

Thanks CF and all who contribute.

 

[whiteCB]

McGuffie is due for a breakout year. If him and Zach Line both rush for over 1,000 yards in 2011, I see that as a great year!!

Agreed! Too many ppl on here get caught up in the love affair the MSM has with black QBs. As long as things are going good at other positions such as WR and RB then things are going good and people are being "awakened" to the caste system. Remember its NOT the QB position where whites are not systematically shut out of but the other "skill" positions where white guys are thrown to the curb. We need successes at those spots wayyyy more than QB where the DWFs know that whites can play.

 

[snow]

McGuffie will at least get 1,000 yards from scrimmage. They have a pretty crappy offense though. Its what you call a "grab bag offense". You don't have one particular scheme, you just grab a few things from all of the schemes out there, what you get is garbage and inconsistency. Hopefully Rice has a real offense installed. I don't care what it is, just find a way to get the ball into McGuffie's hands. Line could crack 2k if it weren't for the run and shoot. Its nice to see June Jones not be so stubborn and go with what works rather than being dead set on passing to win. Smart coaches do things they don't want to do.

Burkhead has a shot at 1k as well. Don't be surprised to see JJ Di Luigi hit the 1k mark as well. Hopefully Tyler Gaffney will have a bigger role in Stanford's offense next year. So thats at least 4 white backs that will have good years.

Im not worried about the black qb situation. Cam Newton will be a huge bust. People overlook the previous qbs that Gus (Auburn coordinator) had, Paul Smith and David Johnson. Paul Smith threw for like 2k yards the year before Gus arrived at Tulsa, like 18 tds I think. Gus arrives and he throws for 5k yards and 47 tds. He was a better passer than Newton and he didn't make it. David Johnson threw for 4,000 and 46 tds, 10 yards per attempt. Didn't get a real shot in the NFL. Gus had always wanted to implement more qb running but never had an "athletic qb", so he mixed up his Texas Tech like passing schemes with what Urban Meyer and RichRod run. People always drool over Newton's passer rating, big deal. Nobody cared about those guys at Tulsa and always overlook the Texas Tech guys. Speaking of which, Taylor Potts looks like the best qb prospect that Tech has had since the offense was installed. He has the size and the arm, no attention to that though.

Newton can't even throw an out route. Watch the combine where he did terrible, fails to hit it pretty much every single time. He improved at his pro day but thats not saying much, he went 50 of 60 at his pro day, which sounds good, but it was the worst among the top qb prospects, Gabbert only missed 5, Locker missed 2, both were 50 yard attempts. Tebow only missed two last year, Bradford only missed one last year. Dalton only missed a few as well. The passes that Newton couldn't hit? the out route. If you want to be an NFL qb you have to be able to make all of the throws. So much for that "rocket arm".

The only black qb next year that has any pro potential is Terrelle Pryor and that isn't saying much. They could have had better quarterbacks these past few years but what they basically did was take an athlete and waste years on making him learn a pro style system. The result is a mediocre NFL qb prospect. I think he is worth a 5th, since he is black that will make him a 1st rounder.