Peyton Hillis

whiteathlete33

Hall of Famer
Joined
Mar 18, 2007
Messages
12,669
Location
New Jersey
ToughJ, every time a white player at a caste position has a successful season or few games there is a plan to kick whitey out. Hillis proved he could be a good running back in the league so what do the Broncos do? They draft an afflete at running back who sucks but has "potential" so that they can kick Hillis to the curb. Mike Furrey comes in second in the league in receptions so what do the Lions do? They draft Calvin Johnson and fill up their roster with very average affletes at wide receiver to give Furrey the boot. Matt Jones has a breakout season for the Jags and he is no longer in the league. This is all done on a consistent basis. There are a handful of whites who are allowed to start and play at the caste positions and this is done purposely so the average DWF won't become suspicious. If they totally shut whites out at the caste positions I have a feeling attendance and ratings would go down significantly.


Edited by: whiteathlete33
 
G

Guest

Guest
Moreno is horrible, what I seen of him consisted of several plays where he went up to the line, stood up and was wrapped up at the legs and then he fell down. Pop Warner backs of the 8 year old set show more form. My guess is that he showed some speed and moves on the outside runs thruout HS and college and the Drunk White Coaches and Drunk White Boosters thought they found the next coming of OJ.
 

FootballDad

Hall of Famer
Joined
Oct 19, 2009
Messages
5,540
Location
Somewhere near Kansas City, MO
They had Hillis returning kicks in the first half of the Chiefs game, and three of the returns that I saw he fielded the ball2-5 yards deep in the end zone and ran them out. One back to the 20, one to the 25 or so, and the last one only to around the 15. Normally, I would say it would be smarter to take the touchback, but with his lack of playing, I'm sure that he just thought to himself, "what the heck, I'll just give it a shot." I saw late in the game they had an "afflete" back there, doing all sorts of "shake and bake" and all that, and still gets dumped at the 17. That's after running it out to the 25 and then dancing back to the 17.
 

FootballDad

Hall of Famer
Joined
Oct 19, 2009
Messages
5,540
Location
Somewhere near Kansas City, MO
wile said:
Moreno is horrible, what I seen of him consisted of several plays where he went up to the line, stood up and was wrapped up at the legs and then he fell down. Pop Warner backs of the 8 year old set show more form. My guess is that he showed some speed and moves on the outside runs thruout HS and college and the Drunk White Coaches and Drunk White Boosters thought they found the next coming of OJ.
You know that. I know that. But I was listening to the announcers and they described every move he made as if he were the second coming of Barry Sanders.
 

Don Wassall

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
31,565
Location
Pennsylvania
Even the Denver fans who really embraced Hillis last year are calling for him to be used in the short yardage running game, not as the starter. By next season his '08 accomplishments will be arapidly dimmingmemory.

As others have said his agent needs to agitate to get him released or traded, but the problem remains, what team would actually use him given the NFL's track record over the last 30 years of screwing White running backs without fail. And it is the rare White player who ever demandsto be traded or released. Those who still believe that he'll follow Shanahan forget what it took for Shanahan to even consider using him.

But we can always hope. Hope that Gerhart will "smash" the Caste System. Hope that Hillis, Leonard, Hester and Woodhead will suddenly be used properly. Yeah, that's it, keep hope alive. . .
 

ToughJ.Riggins

Hall of Famer
Joined
Nov 19, 2006
Messages
5,063
Location
Ontario Canada
Exactly Don, it's like the idiot fans can't make the connection that absolutely dominant play for 3 1/2 games as a starter should be rewarded with more playing time- to see if Hillis could continue with consistency. He ran like a man among boys against the 7th ranked Jets defense last year and showed serious upside with improvement each game.

Somehow every time a white player excels in limited opportunity= most of the time (Forsey, Hester, Hillis, Woodhead this pre-season) these numb-brained fans think it's a fluke and will not question the party line that the coach "plays the best". We here all know there's more forces behind it than that. I gave my top 3 "team chemistry" reasons in my article and I do agree cultural Marxism has a role too.
 

Don Wassall

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
31,565
Location
Pennsylvania
Here's three articles on the Broncos' fiasco of a season that mention Hillis. One has himbeing tradedto the Redskins and Shanahan for a fourth round draft pick. With Clinton Portis maybe finished or close to it, there are worse teams for Hillis to go to.

Broncos team photos not a pretty pictures -- after disgruntled fans rip them to shreds
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/01/broncos_team_photo_is_not_a_pr.php

Denver Broncos Mock Draft Pt. Seven: Time for Marshall, Scheffler to Go
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/319837-denver-broncos-mock-draft-pt-seven-time-for-marshall-scheffler-to-go

Broncos holdovers had hard time under McDaniels
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-01-04/broncos-holdovers-had-hard-time-under-mcdaniels
 
G

Guest

Guest
Don "Hope" is what is sold to the lumpen morons so they shut up and pray instead of grabbing the pitchforks. Think Obama, the titular head of the low IQ and emotionally stunted set selling "Hope and Change" while the banksters loot the treasury.
 

icsept

Master
Joined
Oct 12, 2008
Messages
3,773
Location
Oklahoma
The first blog referred to Scheffler as a "journeyman" tight-end. That's ridiculous, the guy is a 4 year pro who had improved each of his first three years. He was on his way to becoming an elite tight-end with great speed (16.1 ypc in '08). If he lands somewhere with a good quarterback, then McDaniels is going to look like an even bigger stooge.

The second blog talked about Hillis to the Redskins to reunite with Shanahan. He could be in a two back system with Portis. Anything's better than Denver.
 

whiteathlete33

Hall of Famer
Joined
Mar 18, 2007
Messages
12,669
Location
New Jersey
icsept said:
The first blog referred to Scheffler as a "journeyman" tight-end. That's ridiculous, the guy is a 4 year pro who had improved each of his first three years. He was on his way to becoming an elite tight-end with great speed (16.1 ypc in '08). If he lands somewhere with a good quarterback, then McDaniels is going to look like an even bigger stooge.



The second blog talked about Hillis to the Redskins to reunite with Shanahan. He could be in a two back system with Portis. Anything's better than Denver.

There is no doubt in my mind that if Scheffler was used correctly and involved more in the offense like he was pre-McEminem he would be one of the top tight ends in football. He has great speed(4.5 40), runs excellent routes, and doesn't drop passes. He has now taken a backseat to Daniel Graham and is no longer a starter. Graham was rewarded with a huge contract but as an offensive weapon he is very mediocre at best. His best season was 38 receptions for 409 yards. Scheffler had much better numbers than that last year and the year before.
Edited by: whiteathlete33
 

ToughJ.Riggins

Hall of Famer
Joined
Nov 19, 2006
Messages
5,063
Location
Ontario Canada
I should make a sig bet with some numb skull Broncos fans on their forum that "if Hillis gets 160 carries as a Redskin if he goes to D.C= 10/game, he will beat Knowshow's YPC despite being behind a bad run blocking line!

It's amazing how brainwashed these foolish team fans are...Hey idiots wake up and realize that your team is the biggest piece of Affirmative Action bullsh*t the United States has ever known in the last 25 years! How any white person can cheer for this Bronco team after what the owner and McDaniels have done just shows how clueless whites are!
 

Don Wassall

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
31,565
Location
Pennsylvania
Peyton Hillis Speaks on his First Season with Josh McDaniels












In 2008, when the Denver Broncos endured the adversity of losing six running backs to injury, Peyton Hillis saw a window for his opportunity and he seized it. After former Bronco back Ryan Torain went down himself, Hillis rose to the occasion recording his first career 100-yard rushing game en route to leading the Broncos on the ground that season.

Although Hillis'year was abruptly ended by an unfortunate hamstring injury incurred after making an acrobatic catch against Kansas City, the young prospect out of Arkansas was riding high in the knowledge he'd proven himself to Mike Shanahan.

The only problem: it wasn't in the cards for Shanahan to return. Suddenly, once more, Hillis found himself weighed with uncertainty upon the arrival of the Broncos' new head coach, Josh McDaniels.

McDaniels was a new coach bringing in his own players at Hillis' position; namely: Knowshon Moreno, the new regime's 1<SUP>st</SUP> round draft pick; and Correll Buckhalter, who McDaniels personally picked from the free agent crop. Unfortunately for Hillis, both players pocketed more money, and had more clout before one snap was even taken in the 2009 preseason.

Before you know it, in a blink of an eye, Hillis went from teetering on the cusp of his potential, to practically dropping off the radar.

Three days after the Denver Broncos' 2009 season ended in an epic tailspin with a shocking 44-24 domination by the Kansas City Chiefs, Hillis agreed to a one-on-one interview with Fox31's Josina Anderson to reflect on the past, the present, and the future.


Here is the transcript of their Q &amp; A:

Josina Anderson: Your first season in the league you had 68 carries for 343 yards under Mike Shanahan. This season, under Josh McDaniels you logged 13 carries for 54 yards. Having said that, when you look back at this year, how do you feel this season went?

Peyton Hillis: Well, I was kind of like everybody else in that I was expecting a lot of good things to happen to me this year, especially after last season. Unfortunately, when the new coaching staff arrived it ended up not being that way. It really got me down for a little while. However, I just accepted it because I am really kind of used to it from my days at Arkansas being very similar. It's been a rough road but I tend to overcome things like this and come out on top. With me not knowing what will happen next year, meaning whether I stay here or go somewhere else, it's totally out of my hands. It's up to the coaching staff and everybody else to really decide that for me. Wherever my opportunity is, I am going to be grateful and try to take advantage of it. If I stay here, I just got to prove to my coaches that I deserve to play and that I deserve to be here.

Josina: So with that, what do you think your future is with the Broncos? What can you tell Denver fans about the likelihood of whether you will stay in Denver?

Peyton: Well when you look at yourself and you realize that you're not playing very much anything can happen. I have to anticipate that I might return, or that I that I might get cut. I have to keep everything up in the air right now so I am not caught off guard if it happens.

Josina: What do you think was the reason for your decline in playing time this season, and for your decrease in production? Some of your teammates that I talk to think it's a combination of your preseason performance, your fumble against Cleveland early in the regular season, and the politics of McDaniels' guys Moreno and Buckhalter being in front of you.

Peyton: Well yes, I did fumble one time against Cleveland and that was it. It does feel like all the opportunities I had or could have had demolished after that point, but I thought I had a really good preseason. I thought I was doing exceptionally well, but hey life is full of surprises.

Josina: So do you think politics played a part in how your season unraveled when you consider the fact you had only one fumble this season, and Moreno had four?

Peyton: Well when you get a new head coach, a new philosophy, a new scheme, and he brings all of his new guys, you're probably going to have to accept that you might have to take a backseat. I'm just the type of guy that continues to work hard and the guy that continues to hope that eventually my coaches will see my potential and talent. When it comes to Knowshon, obviously (McDaniels) drafted him so he is going to get more opportunities.

Josina: As the season progressed, and the media and fans observed that you were not getting as much playing time, many of them assumed that you were in the doghouse. Did you ever feel like you were, was there ever any tension between you and McDaniels?

Peyton: Being the guy that I am, I'm not the one to ask a lot of questions or question the leader. I just kind of like to let things happen the way they will.I'm the one that is going to just put my head down and keep on working hard. Josh and I were always very friendly whenever we talked to one another. We didn't talk a lot, but when we did it was very conversational.

Josina: But do you feel now in hindsight, given the way that you just described the nature of your personality that perhaps you should have spoke up more on your own behalf?

Peyton: I think not. I think that I am a smart enough guy to speak up if I feel like I can get something accomplished. But being a 7th round draft pick, I just realize that I am in less of a position to impose myself on any coach. So, there was really no reason in doing that.

Josina: But what about a case like your teammate Tony Carter? He was on the Broncos practice squad most of the season, and Josh promoted him to the active roster. Evidently your introductory status is not related to your ability to advance or progress, or so it would seem from that example. What's the truth, or what was your truth?

Peyton: Tony (Carter) is still (McDaniels') guy. They brought him in as (an undrafted free agent), so I feel like (McDaniels) still has more of a comfort level with a guy like Tony when it comes to integrating him into his own system. My experience in what I had to deal with individually was different, so there is really nothing different that I could have done about it.

Josina: So when you see all the drama that began under this new regime, and how it flared up again at the end of the season with the "McScheffler"Â and the latest "McMarshall"Â episodes, what goes through your head? When you combine what happen with you and those guys, is it your observation that the locker room is split between Shanahan's guys and McDaniels' guys?

Peyton: That could be the case. I really couldn't say to tell you the truth. I don't know the story behind Brandon (Marshall) and Tony (Scheffler). What I do know is that this is a business. As far as the guys that are left over from the Shanahan era, you can only hope that we are all on the same playing field; so in the end, what can you do?

Josina: So what did you hear about your future in your exit interview?

Peyton: I was told they just need to take some more time and go over everything to determine how they feel about me. I was fine with that. There's nothing I can do about that. Time will tell.

Josina: So do you want to be here in Denver Peyton? Could you be happy if you had the same playing time next season? Obviously, Moreno will still be here, and there is a good chance Buckhalter will remain as well with how things currently stand.

Peyton: I guess it would all depend on if things would change. I don't really know what will happen at this point. I love being here. I love being a Bronco, and I love this city.

Josina: So is your happiness dependant upon your playing time?

Peyton: Most definitely. I went from doing really good things for this team to not doing anything, and I would like to be a good teammate and contribute. Clearly, the overall success of this team is very important to me, but also within that I would like things to change because right now it's all speculation what coach thinks about me.But to say once again, most definitely I would like things to change.


http://community.kdvr.com/_Peyton-Hillis-Speaks-on-his-First-Season-with-Josh-McDaniels/blog/1695189/96399.htmlEdited by: Don Wassall
 

white lightning

Hall of Famer
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
21,492
He is too nice for his own good. That it typical of whites in general. It sometimes can be our downfall. Sometimes you have to speak up. He got screwed all year long and he still is sitting their keeping his mouth shut. I know he is getting paid good money but you can tell he is not happy. Ask to play or be traded. Hell even if he is cut, some team will take a chance on him. The difference between him and Matt Jones is that Peyton has never got in trouble. Matt deserves another shot and hopefully next year he will return as well.

Good luck to Peyton Hillis. What ever happens, he is a classy guy.
 

foobar75

Master
Joined
Jul 29, 2008
Messages
2,332
If I were Peyton Hillis, here's what I would do. Pick up the phone tomorrow, and call Mike Shanahan.

"Coach, you probably know about how my season went in Denver this past year. I just want to say I want to thank you for the opportunity you gave me in 2008 and I think I showed you that I can be a solid contributor in your offense. I'd like to ask if there's any chance I can part of your program again next season in Washington, because clearly, there is no future for me here in Denver."

If Shanahan says "Sorry Peyton, I don't think there's any room for you here", well what does he have to lose by at least trying? I don't think Shanahan will say that. At the salary he's making, he'd be a bargain. Trade a 4th or 5th rounder for him, and everyone is happy. If Hillis stays in Denver for another year, there's a good chance his career will be over. If the WAS thing doesn't work out, he and his agent need to get the word out and he should ask for his release immediately. I have no doubt he'll do better anywhere but in Denver.
 

Tom Iron

Mentor
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
1,597
Location
New Jersey
He did well in the interview. There's nothing to be gained by burning bridges. Just keep saying everything neutral and he'll be fine. McDaniels is the one on the defensive, not Hillis. Everybodies asking him why he sat Hillis all year. If Hillis stays, McDaniels knows he can't pull the same stunt again, and if he leaves, then, hopefully he'll get a real shot wherever he goes.

Tom Iron...
 

Jimmy Chitwood

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Messages
8,975
Location
Arkansas
i think it's pretty obvious that Hillis knows the real deal, and he is just trying to play the game within the limits that he knows exist.

i wish him nothing but the best, because he certainly deserves it.
 

whiteathlete33

Hall of Famer
Joined
Mar 18, 2007
Messages
12,669
Location
New Jersey
He's the Broncos most versatile offensive player. He can play running back, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and can also return kicks and punts. Hopefully some team realizes this and gives him a chance.
 

DixieDestroyer

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jan 19, 2007
Messages
9,464
Location
Dixieland
Jimmy Chitwood said:
i think it's pretty obvious that Hillis knows the real deal, and he is just trying to play the game within the limits that he knows exist.
<div> </div>
<div>i wish him nothing but the best, because he certainly deserves it.</div>

Precisely JC. He knows full well if he "rocks the (caste) boat" he'll get blackballed ala Matt Jones. I hope they trade him somewhere he can get carries. McEminem is a hardcore caste lackey...as YOshown clearly isn't as good as Hillis.
 

SoberWF

Newbie
Joined
Dec 9, 2008
Messages
78
Whatever happens to Hillis is one thing, but I take huge delight in the fact that the Broncos imploded after game 6. At the beginning of the year, I would tune in to see Hillis play only to be disappointed as the season progressed. After they lost in week 7, I was hoping for them to lose the rest of the season (and almost got my wish!). McDaniels now has already got to be on a short leash. Unless you coach for the Steelers, your tenure as a head coach in the NFL is short unless you produce. The sooner this snot-nose know-it-all is out of the league the better. Good riddance to his antiquated ways in thinking how to put the best football team on the field to win.
 

Don Wassall

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
31,565
Location
Pennsylvania
Joined
Dec 18, 2004
Messages
2,988
Don Wassall said:
Here's a couple more pertinent articles re Hillis.  In the first one, Woody Paige (who is a reliable Caste hound in my experience) says Hillis is gone, and has some interesting observations about Eminem and the team.  The second one is a blogger's interpretation of Peyton wanting "change" in reference to the interview posted yesterday:


http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_14137003
<div></div>
<div></div>
<div></div>
<div></div>
<div>http://broncotalk.net/2010/01/13439/broncos-blog/peyton-hillis-wants-change-in-2010/</div>

Woody Paige writes that he has been in this business for 40 years. I recall seeing his byline in Pro Football Weekly in the 1970's and 80's. To me, Paige's most notable observations were:

"Truth is, players play for themselves, not the team. I've certainly seen the changes from when I started doing this 40 years ago. It was all about the team. Now, it's all about me, me, me."

"The players don't care about fans or teammates or the coaches. They care about the cash. That's true in all professional team sports. The only solution is to get rid of long-term contracts and personal incentive clauses."
 

newguy

Guru
Joined
Dec 7, 2008
Messages
129
I found this post on the blog Don posted Yesterday. I don't know if the poster is from caste football, but the poster sums up what most of us feel about Peyton Hill's situation this year.



DantePakistan 1 day ago

I think the majority of us would agree that this season Hillis was the best opition to carry the ball but McDaniels has way too much pride to not be giving his 12th overall, who will never be better then an average running back, the majority of the work load.
 

icsept

Master
Joined
Oct 12, 2008
Messages
3,773
Location
Oklahoma
Its tragic to see Hillis rotting on the bench. McDaniels mangaged to alienate the Broncos' four best offensive players all because of his ego. What a fool. Did he think that if he had a good season with Shanahan's players that he wouldn't get any credit? This guy is an ego-maniacal fool.
 

Bear Backer

Mentor
Joined
Jan 23, 2007
Messages
658
Location
Illinois
icsept said:
Its tragic to see Hillis rotting on the bench. McDaniels mangaged to alienate the Broncos' four best offensive players all because of his ego. What a fool. Did he think that if he had a good season with Shanahan's players that he wouldn't get any credit? This guy is an ego-maniacal fool.

He really reminds me of a kid, who got his own real life copy of Madden Football and went silly trying out all the features.
 
Top