Paul Skenes

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I hope this isn't too pre-mature, but I'm going ahead and giving Skenes his own thread as it looks like he could be the next dominate pitcher!
Skenes only went 6 innings again today, but struck out 9 and only allowed 2 runs! Unlike his last start the relief came in and saved him his second win in his first 3 starts.
 

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Skenes earns his third win in four starts over the powerful offense of the LA Dodgers. The Pirates beat the Dodgers as Skenes pitched 5 innings had 8 K's, but gave up 3 runs on two HR's. One by defending AL MVP Ohtani. LA Rookie Andy Pages from Cuba also connected for HR off of Skenes.
 
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Baseball needs stars and this guy is one in the making. Not just on the field but also his off-the-field activities are garnering quite a bit of attention. Let's see if MLB fumbles another opportunity to create an American sports superstar.
 

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The Pirates are slowly letting Skenes pitch longer. Yesterday he pitched seven innings for the first time. He gave up a first inning HR to Diaz of Tampa and then threw six scoreless innings, ending up with a no-decision in a game Tampa won 3-1. Skenes' ERA is now 2.14.
 

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Nice seeing the Pirates with a promising Young Ace! Can't say they have had one my 25 Years or so of watching MLB.
 

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Skenes is a beast! The only pitchers I remember from the pirates: John candelaria and Kent tekulve
 

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It's true the Pirates haven't had any all-time great pitchers. When they were often in contention and winning the occasional World Series along with many division titles in the 1960s, '70s and early '90s, they were known for their hitting more than having great pitchers.

But there were some other notable pitchers during that time frame besides Drabek, Candelaria and Tekulve. Vernon Law won the Cy Young Award in 1960 and finished with 162 career victories. Bob Friend won 197 games (and later became an Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) county commissioner as a Republican).

Elroy Face was one of the first prominent closers. He pitched in 848 games and is best known for his 18-1 record in 1959. Steve Blass was one of the top pitchers in the NL from the mid-60s to the early '70s until reporting to spring training in 1973 unable to throw the ball over the plate. It remains the most mystifying example of a pitcher suddenly and completely losing his stuff. 6'6" Bob Veale was one of the league's premier strikeout pitchers in the '60s.

Rick Rhoden had some solid seasons in the '80s and finished his career with 151 wins. Of recent vintage, Gerritt Cole was a top pitcher before owner Bob Nutting, per his m.o., let him go elsewhere rather than ink him to a market value deal. Maybe it'll be different when Skenes is eligible to become a free agent but I highly doubt it. By that time top pitchers will likely be making $100 million or more a year or close to it and Nutting will never shell out that kind of dough.

Honorable mention goes to Dock Ellis, who had some good seasons in the '70s and allegedly threw a no-hitter while tripping on LSD.
 
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It's true the Pirates haven't had any all-time great pitchers. When they were often in contention and winning the occasional World Series along with many division titles in the 1960s, '70s and early '90s, they were known for their hitting more than having great pitchers.

But there were some other notable pitchers during that time frame besides Drabek, Candelaria and Tekulve. Vernon Law won the Cy Young Award in 1960 and finished with 162 career victories. Bob Friend won 197 games (and later became an Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) county commissioner as a Republican).

Elroy Face was one of the first prominent closers. He pitched in 848 games and is best known for his 18-1 record in 1959. Steve Blass was one of the top pitchers in the NL from the mid-60s to the early '70s until reporting to spring training in 1973 unable to throw the ball over the plate. It remains the most mystifying example of a pitcher suddenly and completely losing his stuff. 6'6" Bob Veale was one of the league's premier strikeout pitchers in the '60s.

Rick Rhoden had some solid seasons in the '80s and finished his career with 151 wins. Of recent vintage, Gerritt Cole was a top pitcher before owner Bob Nutting, per his m.o., let him go elsewhere rather than ink him to a market value deal. Maybe it'll be different when Skenes is eligible to become a free agent but I highly doubt it. By that time top pitchers will likely be making $100 million or more a year or close to it and Nutting will never shell out that kind of dough.

Honorable mention goes to Dock Ellis, who had some good seasons in the '70s and allegedly threw a no-hitter while tripping on LSD.

I think Bert Blyleven could be considered an all time great, even if he did part of it in Minnesota.
 

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I think Bert Blyleven could be considered an all time great, even if he did part of it in Minnesota.
Blyleven only played for the Pirates three years out of a 22 season career and only won 26 games for them in those three years. He may be a borderline all-time great but with such a short career in Pittsburgh I didn't consider him when writing about notable Pirates pitchers.

Blyleven did win Game 5 of the 1979 World Series for which he'll always be remembered by Pirates fans, a game I saw in person and which was a great experience as the atmosphere was so intense and enjoyable as the Pirates came into Game 5 down 3 games to 1 to the Orioles and then won three straight. They haven't been to the World Series since.
 
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Just now reading about Bob Moose. He had an interesting story for the Pirates. On the '71 champs but threw a wild pitch to George Foster, allowing the Reds to advance in '72. '74 suffered a blood clot needing a rib removal. Killed in a car accident returning from a golf course in Ohio in 1976.
 

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Just now reading about Bob Moose. He had an interesting story for the Pirates. On the '71 champs but threw a wild pitch to George Foster, allowing the Reds to advance in '72. '74 suffered a blood clot needing a rib removal. Killed in a car accident returning from a golf course in Ohio in 1976.
That one brings back a memory. A local news station, think it was Channel 11, had hired a young black sports news reader a few months previously. He wasn't the main one just a backup but was on duty that night after Moose's mistake. As the footage of the series clinching play was shown, the young guy said "What a shitty way to go."

This was in 1972, about the time when George Carlin became famous because of his "seven dirty words" skit. As best I can remember, the young black kid was fired the next day.

It's odd the things one remembers when so much is forgotten.
 

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Skenes made the All Star team, not much more than a month into his MLB career, very impressive.
 

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Crazy thing is Paul Skenes was already MLB caliber on last year's LSU National Championship Team . As the Ace it was almost unfair doing that to college batters! Originally played at Air Force as a Catcher & Pitcher; and at 6'-6" almost looked like a Tight End.

Some are already calling Skenes the Best Pitcher in the World at only 22 years of age!
 

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I guess I’m finally getting used to pitchers being pulled after 7 innings, even though they’re pitching a no-hitter. Nolan Ryan’s record of 7 no-hitters is literally untouchable. I presume pitchers used to pace themselves in order to pitch complete games. The modem pitcher knows he’s throwing a finite number of pitches and can let it fly. Analytics also doesn’t want the same batter to see a pitcher 3 times in a game.
 

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I guess I’m finally getting used to pitchers being pulled after 7 innings, even though they’re pitching a no-hitter. Nolan Ryan’s record of 7 no-hitters is literally untouchable. I presume pitchers used to pace themselves in order to pitch complete games. The modem pitcher knows he’s throwing a finite number of pitches and can let it fly. Analytics also doesn’t want the same batter to see a pitcher 3 times in a game.
It makes the game much less enjoyable for sure.
 

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Skenes recorded his 100th strikeout tonight against the Astros. He did it in just 76 innings. He's also walked just 13 batters, which is a superb strikeouts to walk ratio.
 

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Paul Skenes continued his amazing rookie season by striking out nine and getting his 10th win of the season. Skenes also set the Pirates rookie record for K's passing Cy Blanton's 143 strikeouts that was set in 1935. Skenes now has 151 strikeouts.
Skenes will be heavily considered for ROY!
 

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Skenes won National League Rookie of the Year and finished third in the NL Cy Young voting even though he wasn't called up from the minors until May. Pretty sensational rookie season.
 
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