Oregon WR Jeff Maehl "defies stereotype".

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<div id="GPage1" ="gel-pane gpagediv" style=": left; width: 580px; ">SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- The question seemed innocent enough, but Oregon receivers coach Scott Frost didn't view it that way.</span><div ="articleflex-container" style=": left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 10px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: left; "><div ="articleflex" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: center; min-height: 600px; min-width: 160px; border-bottom-width: 3px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb226, 225, 199; border-top-width: 3px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb226, 225, 199; "></span>
<div id="adcontainer___gelement_adbanner_0"></div><banner ="ArticleFlex_1" id="__gelement_adbanner_0"></banner></div></div></span>When a reporter noted that wide receiver Jeff Maehl has deceptive speed, often turning short passes into long gains, Frost took excep tion to the perceived implication.</span></span>"Unfortunately, he's a white re ceiver so you give him that stereo type," Frost said. "I don't know why you give him that stereotype, but he's gonna run a better 40 time than three fourths of the receiving com ing out in the draft."</span></span>Fair enough. Maehl is more than a possession receiver who runs precise routes. His leaping 45-yard touchdown catch in the USC game was highlight-reel ma terial.</span></span>Maehl is aware of the stereotype surrounding "white receivers" and if anything it has worked to his ad vantage.</span></span>"I guess that's just kind of my advantage if teams think I might be slow or something," said Maehl, a 6-foot-1, 184-pound senior from Par adise, Calif. "I'm guessing it's out there in the media and in the back of some guys' heads, that's probably what they're thinking."</span></span>If Auburn underestimates Maehl's wheels in the BCS national championship game, the Tigers likely will pay the price. The Tigers have given up an average of 250.4 yards passing per game, 105th among the 120 FBS schools.</span></span>With minimal fanfare, Maehl has put together one of the best sea sons for a receiver in school histo ry. He has 68 receptions for 943 yards and a single-season record 12 touchdowns, and was named first-team all-Pac-10.</span></span>"(Defensive backs) don't think he has a lot of moves, (but) he's real quick with his first step and after that he has a long stride," said wideout D.J. Davis.</span></span>"Some times we make fun of him, call him a little ga zelle or a deer."</span></span>Maehl is fourth in career receptions (169) at Oregon and needs nine in the nation al title game to tie Samie Par ker for the season and career mark in receptions. His 24 re ceiving touchdowns matches a school record shared by Keenan Howry and Cristin McLemore. Not bad for a player who began his college career as a safety.</span><div>(2 of 2)<div ="clear"></div>
</span>"He's just a football player. He does everything," Oregon coach Chip Kelly said. "He covers kicks for us. He'll block for you, he runs great routes, he's got great hands, he can jump. He¹s just been an unbelievable player."</span><div ="articleflex-container" style=": left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 10px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: left; "><div ="articleflex" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: center; min-height: 600px; min-width: 160px; border-bottom-width: 3px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb226, 225, 199; border-top-width: 3px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb226, 225, 199; "></span>
<div id="adcontainer___gelement_adbanner_1"></div><banner ="ArticleFlex_1" loadoninit="false" ="false" id="__gelement_adbanner_1"></banner></div></div></span>The Ducks, who arrived in Phoenix on Sunday and are practicing at Pinnacle High School in Scottsdale, are a run-oriented team that is fourth in the nation in rush ing. But Oregon is adept at throwing the ball as well in its no-huddle, spread-option offense.</span></span>When quarterback Darren Thomas goes to the air, his fa vorite target has been Maehl. Davis is Oregon's second leading receiver with 36 catches.</span></span>"Jeff, he's a spectacular player," Thomas said. "He's gonna do some things that you won't see everybody do. He's a big-time player."</span></span>And consistent. Maehl has at least one catch in 33 con secutive games, and his streak of nine consecutive games with a touchdown catch ended in the Civil War victory against Oregon State.</span></span>Maehl has an opportunity to close his college career in spectacular fashion.</span></span>Last year Oregon played in the Rose Bowl game for the first time since the1994 sea son and lost to Ohio State. That experience has given Maehl and the Ducks added incentive.</span></span>"You don't want to look back in 10 years and say, 'What if,' " Maehl said. "That's why we're out here practicing as hard as we do."</span></span>If things had worked out differently, Maehl could be patrolling the Ducks' second ary. He moved from safety to wide receiver late in his freshman year of 2007, start ing the final three games.</span></span>Maehl still plays on some special teams and has no problem averting back to de fensive mode. That could help him land a roster spot in the NFL.</span></span>"That was my love in high school," Maehl said. "I don't look at it (that) I wouldn't have been successful if I would have stayed there. I feel like I'm just competitive and wherever I'm at on the field I want to be the best I can be.</span></span>Frost has no doubt that Maehl has the right stuff to play in the NFL, saying "I'd be shocked if he doesn¹t have a good, long career."</span></span>"He's the kind of kid that understands the game," Frost said. "He's really ath letic and he's gonna do what­ever it takes to win."</span></span>But first things first. Ore gon must get past Auburn to win its first national champi onship. Southeastern Confer ence teams have won the past four BCS title games and are 6-0 in championship games since the inception of the BCS in 1998.</span></span>Oregon and Auburn do not have common opponents, but the Ducks defeated Tennes see 48-13 in the heart of SEC country.</span></span>"We feel like we can play with anyone in the country," Maehl said. "Obviously we played a SEC school already in Tennessee. It's nothing we haven't seen. It's nothing that we're scared of by any means."</span></span></font></div></div></span>
 

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9 catches for 133 yards and he caught the 2 point conversion to tie the game late in the 4th quarter. Great game in a losing effort.
 

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Well Frost should be aware of stereotypes and discrimination, despite being a great dual threat qb that took Nebraska to a National Championship, he was converted to safety. At 6'3 230 pounds he wouldve been 10 x the qb that Newton will ever be in the NFL. Glad to see he isn't afraid of saying things like this.
 

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Yeah, thanks for posting the article, PoliticallyIncorrect. Here it is with a couple of formatting fixes.

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SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- The question
seemed innocent enough, but Oregon receivers coach Scott Frost didn't view it
that way.</span>
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When a reporter noted that wide
receiver Jeff Maehl has deceptive speed, often turning short passes into long
gains, Frost took exception to the perceived implication.</span>
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"Unfortunately, he's a white receiver so you give him that stereo type," Frost said. "I don't know
why you give him that stereotype, but he's gonna run a better 40 time than
three fourths of the receiving coming out in the draft."</span>
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Fair enough. Maehl is more than a
possession receiver who runs precise routes. His leaping 45-yard touchdown
catch in the USC game was highlight-reel material.</span>
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Maehl is aware of the stereotype
surrounding "white receivers" and if anything it has worked to his ad
vantage.</span>
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"I guess that's just kind of my
advantage if teams think I might be slow or something," said Maehl, a
6-foot-1, 184-pound senior from Paradise, Calif. "I'm guessing it's out
there in the media and in the back of some guys' heads, that's probably what
they're thinking."</span>
</font>

If Auburn underestimates Maehl's
wheels in the BCS national championship game, the Tigers likely will pay the
price. The Tigers have given up an average of 250.4 yards passing per game,
105th among the 120 FBS schools.</span>
</font>

With minimal fanfare, Maehl has put
together one of the best sea sons for a receiver in school history. He has 68
receptions for 943 yards and a single-season record 12 touchdowns, and was
named first-team all-Pac-10.</span>
</font>

"(Defensive backs) don't think
he has a lot of moves, (but) he's real quick with his first step and after that
he has a long stride," said wideout D.J. Davis.</span>
</font>

"Some times we make fun of him,
call him a little gazelle or a deer."</span>
</font>

Maehl is fourth in career receptions
(169) at Oregon and needs nine in the national title game to tie Samie Parker
for the season and career mark in receptions. His 24 receiving touchdowns
matches a school record shared by Keenan Howry and Cristin McLemore. Not bad
for a player who began his college career as a safety.</span>
</font>

"He's just a football player.
He does everything," Oregon coach Chip Kelly said. "He covers kicks
for us. He'll block for you, he runs great routes, he's got great hands, he can
jump. He¹s just been an unbelievable player."</span>
</font>

The Ducks, who arrived in Phoenix on
Sunday and are practicing at Pinnacle High School in Scottsdale, are a
run-oriented team that is fourth in the nation in rushing. But Oregon is adept
at throwing the ball as well in its no-huddle, spread-option offense.</span>
</font>

When quarterback Darren Thomas goes
to the air, his favorite target has been Maehl. Davis is Oregon's second
leading receiver with 36 catches.</span>
</font>

"Jeff, he's a spectacular player,"
Thomas said. "He's gonna do some things that you won't see everybody do.
He's a big-time player."</span>
</font>

And consistent. Maehl has at least
one catch in 33 consecutive games, and his streak of nine consecutive games
with a touchdown catch ended in the Civil War victory against Oregon State.</span>
</font>

Maehl has an opportunity to close
his college career in spectacular fashion.</span>
</font>

Last year Oregon played in the Rose
Bowl game for the first time since the1994 season and lost to Ohio State. That
experience has given Maehl and the Ducks added incentive.</span>
</font>

"You don't want to look back in
10 years and say, 'What if,' " Maehl said. "That's why we're out here
practicing as hard as we do."</span>
</font>

If things had worked out
differently, Maehl could be patrolling the Ducks' secondary. He moved from
safety to wide receiver late in his freshman year of 2007, starting the final
three games.</span>
</font>

Maehl still plays on some special
teams and has no problem averting back to defensive mode. That could help him
land a roster spot in the NFL.</span>
</font>

"That was my love in high
school," Maehl said. "I don't look at it (that) I wouldn't have been
successful if I would have stayed there. I feel like I'm just competitive and
wherever I'm at on the field I want to be the best I can be.</span>
</font>

Frost has no doubt that Maehl has
the right stuff to play in the NFL, saying "I'd be shocked if he doesn¹t
have a good, long career."</span>
</font>

"He's the kind of kid that
understands the game," Frost said. "He's really athletic and he's
gonna do what­ever it takes to win."</span>
</font>

But first things first. Oregon must
get past Auburn to win its first national championship. Southeastern Conference teams have won the past four BCS title games and are 6-0 in championship
games since the inception of the BCS in 1998.</span>
</font>

Oregon and Auburn do not have common
opponents, but the Ducks defeated Tennessee 48-13 in the heart of SEC country.</span>
</font>

"We feel like we can play with
anyone in the country," Maehl said. "Obviously we played a SEC school
already in Tennessee. It's nothing we haven't seen. It's nothing that we're scared
of by any means."</span>
</font>



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snow said:
Well Frost should be aware of stereotypes and discrimination, despite being a great dual threat qb that took Nebraska to a National Championship, he was converted to safety. At 6'3 230 pounds he wouldve been 10 x the qb that Newton will ever be in the NFL. Glad to see he isn't afraid of saying things like this.



Congrats to Jeff and a big kudos to a coach who is aware ofthe caste system in Jack Frost.Itsrefreshing to see a coachnot allow thecaste system hold back oneof thenations top white athletes. There's no reason this guy should be being called a "possesion receiver." He's got great body control, runs precise routes, great hands, and has legit speed.
 

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snow said:
Well Frost should be aware of stereotypes and discrimination, despite being a great dual threat qb that took Nebraska to a National Championship, he was converted to safety. At 6'3 230 pounds he wouldve  been 10 x the qb that Newton will ever be in the NFL. Glad to see he isn't afraid of saying things like this. 

snow, there's no way Frost would have ever gotten a chance to play qb at the NFL level. no caste system in it either. he played qb at Nebraska dude. NFL caliber athlete though. if i would've been his agent i would've had him convert to WR or HB.
 

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johnnyboy said:
snow said:
Well Frost should be aware of stereotypes and discrimination, despite being a great dual threat qb that took Nebraska to a National Championship, he was converted to safety. At 6'3 230 pounds he wouldve been 10 x the qb that Newton will ever be in the NFL. Glad to see he isn't afraid of saying things like this.



snow, there's no way Frost would have ever gotten a chance to play qb at the NFL level. no caste system in it either. he played qb at Nebraska dude. NFL caliber athlete though. if i would've been his agent i would've had him convert to WR or HB.

Playing at Nebraska is no different than the gimmick offenses they have now like Auburn, Oregon, Florida etc. except he had to drop back to pass (the detractors many white qbs have now who play in the spread), didn't run the hurry up and the offenses didn't have components of Mike Leach's Airraid (how many white quarterbacks got chances in the NFL under Leach?) but Frost still had comparable numbers to Vick. Vick's last season he had 1439 passing yards 9 tds and 7 int, and 636 rushing yards 9 tds. Frost had similar numbers his junior season with 1440 passing yards 13 tds and 3 int, 578 rushing yards, 9 tds. I can't find exactly what Frost's senior numbers were but he was the first at Nebraska to have 1,000 rushing and 1,000 passing, and held the record for most attempts without an interception (155).

Tebow is the only white quarterback to get a chance like this, and it has been an uphill battle for him, and now we aren't even sure if the new coach will start him at qb with Elway's weird comments. Cam Newton, and all of the other black qbs play in the same type of offenses yet are proclaimed to be quarterbacks at the next level. Frost had a good arm and might have been able to play qb at Stanford if he didn't transfer and got more experience in their offense. I think he wouldve made a good dual threat qb in the NFL. It might not be Drew Brees, Tom Brady level, but he would be doing better than Vick's best performances. For the record, Vick's best college season was 1840 yards, 58 percent passing completion, 12 tds 5 interceptions, 110 attempts for 580 yards 8 tds. Didn't exactly light the world on fire, but was the first overall pick.

So you are saying Eric Crouch also wasn't capable of being an NFL quarterback since he played at Nebraska?

When you break it down, the new spread option teams aren't much different, similar concepts to what Nebraska was running. The passing is the same one read crap that even Vince Young was doing at Texas. They just spread out the offense more so wider running lanes and have components of Mike Leach's Airraid, which like I said, hasn't done any white quarterback favors as to getting into the NFL. The only difference is the passing concepts are simplified because you have to work on the run game so much. Florida had a dive back just like Nebraska had one, except it was in shotgun, the pitchman, instead of lining up in the backfield exclusively was usually a slot receiver that goes in motion in Urban Meyer's offense (at least when Tebow was there). I haven't watched much of Auburn or Oregon. I know its not that much different from what Tebow was running except they added a ton of wrinkles to make the quarterback look better than he actually is. Plus Gus is a much better offensive coordinator than Meyer and college defenses haven't caught up to what he is doing. Also Frost, like Tebow ran one play that I haven't seen too many black spread qbs run, which is qb power. I agree that Frost couldve made a great halfback, and also think Tebow can, but I still think Frost could play qb in the NFL, just like Tebow is proving.

Unfortunately, the simplified passing game will be a detractor for Maehl, just like it was for Riley Cooper. Every "guru" said he was raw and would have to make a huge adjustment to the NFL because of Florida's route tree. Cooper went lower than every other wide receiver that played under Tebow, despite putting up the best receiving stats for Florida since 2002. Even if Maehl runs a 4.4 which is suspect he will, they will have some negative to say of him.
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snow said:
johnnyboy said:
snow said:
Well Frost should be aware of stereotypes and discrimination, despite being a great dual threat qb that took Nebraska to a National Championship, he was converted to safety. At 6'3 230 pounds he wouldve been 10 x the qb that Newton will ever be in the NFL. Glad to see he isn't afraid of saying things like this.



snow, there's no way Frost would have ever gotten a chance to play qb at the NFL level. no caste system in it either. he played qb at Nebraska dude. NFL caliber athlete though. if i would've been his agent i would've had him convert to WR or HB.

Playing at Nebraska is no different than the gimmick offenses they have now like Auburn, Oregon, Florida etc. except he had to drop back to pass (the detractors many white qbs have now who play in the spread), didn't run the hurry up and the offenses didn't have components of Mike Leach's Airraid (how many white quarterbacks got chances in the NFL under Leach?) but Frost still had comparable numbers to Vick. Vick's last season he had 1439 passing yards 9 tds and 7 int, and 636 rushing yards 9 tds. Frost had similar numbers his junior season with 1440 passing yards 13 tds and 3 int, 578 rushing yards, 9 tds. I can't find exactly what Frost's senior numbers were but he was the first at Nebraska to have 1,000 rushing and 1,000 passing, and held the record for most attempts without an interception (155).

Tebow is the only white quarterback to get a chance like this, and it has been an uphill battle for him, and now we aren't even sure if the new coach will start him at qb with Elway's weird comments. Cam Newton, and all of the other black qbs play in the same type of offenses yet are proclaimed to be quarterbacks at the next level. Frost had a good arm and might have been able to play qb at Stanford if he didn't transfer and got more experience in their offense. I think he wouldve made a good dual threat qb in the NFL. It might not be Drew Brees, Tom Brady level, but he would be doing better than Vick's best performances. For the record, Vick's best college season was 1840 yards, 58 percent passing completion, 12 tds 5 interceptions, 110 attempts for 580 yards 8 tds. Didn't exactly light the world on fire, but was the first overall pick.

So you are saying Eric Crouch also wasn't capable of being an NFL quarterback since he played at Nebraska?

When you break it down, the new spread option teams aren't much different, similar concepts to what Nebraska was running. The passing is the same one read crap that even Vince Young was doing at Texas. They just spread out the offense more so wider running lanes and have components of Mike Leach's Airraid, which like I said, hasn't done any white quarterback favors as to getting into the NFL. The only difference is the passing concepts are simplified because you have to work on the run game so much. Florida had a dive back just like Nebraska had one, except it was in shotgun, the pitchman, instead of lining up in the backfield exclusively was usually a slot receiver that goes in motion in Urban Meyer's offense (at least when Tebow was there). I haven't watched much of Auburn or Oregon. I know its not that much different from what Tebow was running except they added a ton of wrinkles to make the quarterback look better than he actually is. Plus Gus is a much better offensive coordinator than Meyer and college defenses haven't caught up to what he is doing. Also Frost, like Tebow ran one play that I haven't seen too many black spread qbs run, which is qb power. I agree that Frost couldve made a great halfback, and also think Tebow can, but I still think Frost could play qb in the NFL, just like Tebow is proving.

Unfortunately, the simplified passing game will be a detractor for Maehl, just like it was for Riley Cooper. Every "guru" said he was raw and would have to make a huge adjustment to the NFL because of Florida's route tree. Cooper went lower than every other wide receiver that played under Tebow, despite putting up the best receiving stats for Florida since 2002. Even if Maehl runs a 4.4 which is suspect he will, they will have some negative to say of him.

Frost would have been a great NFL quarterback. Same goes for Eric Crouch. I would have loved to see them both play qb in the league. Both had the potential to rush for 1,000 yards in a season.
 

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How many times during this season did Darron dink-it to Maehl and MAEHL USED HIS LEGS AND TURNED IT INTO BIG GAINS?!!

A classic case of Darron "padding his stats".. A White man made him look infinitely better than he really was!

Darron wasn't throwing a bunch of "long TDs" this year, wasn't actually "airing it out" so to speak... he's a farce of a QB!!
 

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Frost and Crouch would both have been drafted high as QBs had they been black. They were both exactly what the NFL claims it's been looking for at QB for the past 15 years.

Crouch and Vick entered the draft the same year, and the difference in the way they were treated was as stark and vivid asthat givenReggie Bush and Mike Hass in 2006. The only knock against Crouch the Caste media and its DWF clapping seals could come up with was that his arm wasn't strong enough, whereas Vick possessed a "cannon arm." Even if that was true, how many 60 yard passes are thrown in a game, and what good is a "cannon arm" if the QB possessing it can't throw accurately?

Crouch was obviously much smarter than Vick, but that is one of the taboos that isn't allowed to be mentioned about black athletes (along with their generally poor hand-eye coordination, poor balance, lack of stamina and strength, and selfishness), whereas any time a White athlete is judged as "slow" (and often wrongly so), it is constantly repeated and even made fun of.Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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Don Wassall said:
Frost and Crouch would both have been drafted high as QBs had they been black. They were both exactly what the NFL claims it's been looking for at QB for the past 15 years.
<div></div>
<div>Crouch and Vick entered the draft the same year, and the difference in the way they were treated was as stark and vivid asthat givenReggie Bush and Mike Hass in 2006. The only knock against Crouch the Caste media and its DWF clapping seals could come up with was that his arm wasn't strong enough, whereas Vick possessed a "cannon arm." Even if that was true, how many 60 yard passes are thrown in a game, and what good is a "cannon arm" if the QB possessing it can't throw accurately?</div>
<div></div>
<div>Crouch was obviously much smarter than Vick, but that is one of the taboos that isn't allowed to be mentioned about black athletes (along with their generally poor hand-eye coordination, poor balance, lack of stamina and strength, and selfishness), whereas any time a White athlete is judged as "slow" (and often wrongly so), it is constantly repeated and even made fun of.</div>

I totally agree Don. Crouch was extremely athletic and even the biased SI stated that he has the athleticism to play tailback in the NFL. Here is SI's scouting report on Crouch.

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Athletic prospect with nice
size/speed numbers that must now find a new position at the next level.
As a ballcarrier he runs with vision and patience, waits for his
blocks to develop then follows them. Fast and explosive when the ball
is in his hands, beats defenders to the flanks displaying the speed to
get around the corner. Can cut it back, quick getting to top speed and
works his runs. As a passer he does not see the field or read defenses
and has only average arm strength. Successful the few times he was
used at receiver and does have the body type and speed to fit that
role. Not big enough to be an every down back at the next level,
history of shoulder problems may prevent him from doling out punishment
at free safety and ultimately he could end up as a receiver or a third
down back-type at the next level but whatever the position he'll need a
lot of work and time. Early Seventh Round.
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2001 Receiving Statistics
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<td align="CENTER">

Receptions
</font>
</td>
<td align="CENTER">

Receiving Yards
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Yards Per Reception
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Touchdowns
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63
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1
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2001 Rushing Statistics
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Rushing Yards
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Attempts
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Average per Rush
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Touchdowns
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1229
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225
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5.5
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18
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The normally biased SI gave Crouch nice props.
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
Don Wassall said:
Frost and Crouch would both have been drafted high as QBs had they been black. They were both exactly what the NFL claims it's been looking for at QB for the past 15 years.
<div></div>
<div>Crouch and Vick entered the draft the same year, and the difference in the way they were treated was as stark and vivid asthat givenReggie Bush and Mike Hass in 2006. The only knock against Crouch the Caste media and its DWF clapping seals could come up with was that his arm wasn't strong enough, whereas Vick possessed a "cannon arm." Even if that was true, how many 60 yard passes are thrown in a game, and what good is a "cannon arm" if the QB possessing it can't throw accurately?</div>
<div></div>
<div>Crouch was obviously much smarter than Vick, but that is one of the taboos that isn't allowed to be mentioned about black athletes (along with their generally poor hand-eye coordination, poor balance, lack of stamina and strength, and selfishness), whereas any time a White athlete is judged as "slow" (and often wrongly so), it is constantly repeated and even made fun of.</div>

I totally agree Don. Crouch was extremely athletic and even the biased SI stated that he has the athleticism to play tailback in the NFL. Here is SI's scouting report on Crouch.

<t></t><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="770"><t><tr valign="top"><td width="470"><t></t><table align="CENTER" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="450"><t><tr><td colspan="9">


Athletic prospect with nice
size/speed numbers that must now find a new position at the next level.
As a ballcarrier he runs with vision and patience, waits for his
blocks to develop then follows them. Fast and explosive when the ball
is in his hands, beats defenders to the flanks displaying the speed to
get around the corner. Can cut it back, quick getting to top speed and
works his runs. As a passer he does not see the field or read defenses
and has only average arm strength. Successful the few times he was
used at receiver and does have the body type and speed to fit that
role. Not big enough to be an every down back at the next level,
history of shoulder problems may prevent him from doling out punishment
at free safety and ultimately he could end up as a receiver or a third
down back-type at the next level but whatever the position he'll need a
lot of work and time. Early Seventh Round.
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2001 Receiving Statistics
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Receptions
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<td align="CENTER">

Receiving Yards
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Touchdowns
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63
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63
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1
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2001 Rushing Statistics
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<td align="CENTER">

Rushing Yards
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<td align="CENTER">

Attempts
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Average per Rush
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Touchdowns
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1229
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</td>
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225
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5.5
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18
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The normally biased SI gave Crouch nice props.

If Vick was drafted first overall I can't see why this kid wasn't.
 
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Brace yourselves for this short articlefilled with Caste speak,back handedpraise (sort of), etc. I posted an interesting one from ESPN last night on the White WRs thread.



Love the orginal article posted in this thread. Hopefully, WR coach Frost becomes Head Coach Frost some day soon.Edited by: Toby Hillis
 

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Just look at list of current favorite athletes. Everyone of them is black. It doesn't suprise me. What an idiot! He admits he couldn't play sports so I guess like alot of DWF's he assumes most whites cannot either. This guy needs to find a new job. He cannot writeworth a damn.
 

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The bleacherreport article is odious drivel. "Jeff Maehl couldn't crack the starting lineup at most programs" yet amazingly, he's the best athlete in the national championship game. A punk with a laptop writes an article from his dorm room between circle jerk sessions, and he's a bleacherreport "columnist."
 
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Toby Hillis said:
whiteathlete33 said:
What an idiot the writer is.  Here is the DWF himself.  http://bleacherreport.com/users/339853-tom-kinslow
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<div>I'm having a little back in forth with the tard now in the comments section of his trash article.  Anybody want to jump in, feel free.</div>

Dude you're awesome! You totally owned him. I didn't add anything because I thougt it would be too cruel the way you nailed it. Nice job.
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Thanks Jaxvid. He just threw out the whole "do you even realize Im White, Whites cant discriminate against Whites" thing. The ignorance is phenomenal!
 

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keep up the good work, Toby Hillis.and make sure that you continue to refrain fromany emotional rants. stick with the facts, mate, as they back up our position.
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Amazing that Maehl's draft stock like Zach Line's isn't a hot commmodity yet. According to some analysts these two might not even get drafted. Both these guys have a very productive body of work this season and coveted skill that you can see right on your t.v and solid triangle numbers to play at the next level. And in Maehl's situation he had a great season and starred in the BCS championship for the very close runner up team. Check around the draft websites, I wonder what's going on?
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Jimmy Chitwood said:
keep up the good work, Toby Hillis.and make sure that you continue to refrain fromany emotional rants. stick with the facts, mate, as they back up our position.
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Thanks, JC. Should've read what you wrote about an hour agoas I probably crossed over into the emotional rant zone by now!It's just so hard to refrain sometimes. All these facts come into my head, I just want to jump through the screen and shake these MFers sometimes, you know what I mean? Oh well, hopefully the writer will think twice before he partakes in demeaning Caste speak again.


ToughJ,

I hope I'm wrong, but I thinkZach Line will not be drafted and if he does get a shot in the NFL, it will be as a fullback. Very sad if it comes true. Maehl HAS to go in one of the late rounds. I just can't believe the NFL would discriminate against such an obviously elite athlete...then again, maybe I can.
 

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ToughJ.Riggins said:
Amazing that Maehl's draft stock like Zach Line's isn't a hot commmodity yet. According to some analysts these two might not even get drafted. Both these guys have a very productive body of work this season and coveted skill that you can see right on your t.v and solid triangle numbers to play at the next level. And in Maehl's situation he had a great season and starred in the BCS championship for the very close runner up team. Check around the draft websites, I wonder what's going on?
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Tough, Zach Line is just a sophomore. he's still got a couple more years left to dominate in college ...before he gets screwed by the NFL.
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