Not enough black coaches...again

[Sean]

From ESPN

Just the typical read on how too few black coaches there are (also states 54% of NCAA players are non-white, yet no one complains about that). The usual. What's interesting, is down at the bottom, the comments that fans made about the article. Seems to be a lot of intelligent responses, but of course, not all of them are good. Go read the comments, I think you guys will like some of them.

Also, the poll on ESPN is; should schools be required to interview minority coaches. Right now 80% says no. Interesting.

 

[Europe]

I always get a kick out of the retired coaches on Espn when they say there should be more black coaches. I didn't see them turn down their high paying jobs and tell the colleges to hire a black person instead of them. Now that they have their money and are retired it's ok to hire black coaches.

 

[Don Wassall]

From ESPN

What's interesting, is down at the bottom, the comments that fans made about the article. Seems to be a lot of intelligent responses, but of course, not all of them are good. Go read the comments, I think you guys will like some of them.

Also, the poll on ESPN is; should schools be required to interview minority coaches. Right now 80% says no. Interesting.

Yes, the comments are more intelligent than usual (at least the several dozen I read out of 700+ of them), and also leaning our way more than before. Is it possible that more white fans are starting to see the ridiculous double standards and hypocrisy in sports when it comes to race, with everything always grossly tilted in favor of blacks and against whites (and all other races)? There was also a very hostile reaction to the ESPN writer who complained a few weeks ago about the Red Sox not having enough blacks on their team.


A benefit to the election of Obama may end up being that a lot more whites finally say ENOUGH to endless black whining and excuse making, not to mention the Cultural Marxist white media people who always promote an anti-white agenda.

 

[OldSchoolBoy75]

It doesn't come as a surprise that all of this crap suddenly rose to the surface like a tsunami once Barry O was elected as our upcoming president. When you consider that professional football is overwhelmingly tar-black, it's a good thing that the majority of the coaches are White. Who else is going to attempt to keep the black players in line? With black coaches, it's all good in chocolate with them. College football isn't as easy to pick apart because there is a plethora of good White athletes there who have yet to be totally immersed in the art of the caste.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

there is a simple, non-racist reason for there being so few black head coaches.

go to any college football game and look at the graduate assistant coaches on any football team's sideline. a graduate assistant is the first step toward being a college head football coach, yet there are more female grad assistants in the NCAA than there are blacks.

until blacks are willing to put in the time at the ground floor and work their way up, the way white people do, they will never get many head coaching jobs.

if there were a long list of qualified blacks who were getting the shaft, lame articles such as this would provide names of these "overlooked" black coaching candidates. but these types of articles never do.

why? there simply aren't any, so the black-loving crowd just keeps whining.

 

[Van_Slyke_CF]

I can't imagine why there aren't more black coaches after seeing the stellar performance of Tyrone Willingham over the years.

Looking at the subpar work of most black NFL coaches in recent years should give pause to those doing the hiring in college football.

The last thing the college game needs is some sort of Rooney Rule. Edited by: Van_Slyke_CF

 

[Don Wassall]

Willingham's been a big-time flop. Sylvester Croom is 20-36 at Mississippi State. But both are regarded as saintly men, much like the black head coaches in the NFL.


UCLA had a black coach recently who was fired because the program had regressed so much. The one at Michigan State a few years back all but wrecked the program before being canned in mid-season.


Has there ever been a successful black college coach at a major program? Eddie Robinson doesn't count.

 

[Don Wassall]

St. Sylvester Croom, who got ridiculously good press after being hired, has resigned after guiding Mississippi State to a 21-38 record.


These black head coaches at I-A seem to be uniformly bad. There should be less of them, not more.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3733168

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I agree Don but Spencer Tillman, one of CBS's black talking heads said roughly"college football needs to look itself in the mirror and give these qualified coaches a chance." What a load of BS! He wouldn't even comment on Croom's lack of success. Same with Willingham. The problem is that NO black college coaches have been proven winners. The ones that have been given a chance usually do not fare well. Its no wonder that colleges don't want to hire them. Now there are 2 blacks coaches in the FBS.

 

[sport historian]

The Tennessee AD had to publicly say that he would interview a minority candidate to succeed Phillip Fulmer.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

The Tennessee AD had to publicly say that he would interview a minority candidate to succeed Phillip Fulmer.

What? Who "forced" him to say that?

 

[sport historian]

Some reporters asked him if he would interview a minority. If he had said, "No," there would have been a big deal about it. The modern culture "forced" the Tenesssee AD to say it.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

What a pathetic excuse for a man, prostrating himself beforethe PC gods. Sickening!

 

[Gi-15]

Sylvester Croom resigned at Miss. State, look for a lot more Not enough black coaches stories

 

[GiovaniMarcon]

Typical racist caste attitude.

"Blacks are well represented on the field because it's a meritocracy, but not on the coaching staff because of the good ol' boy network."

Just once I wish the media would tell the truth and show its hand: "Blacks should be numerous on the coaching staff for the same reason they are numerous on the player roster -- because the white race has collectively decided to commit voluntary suicide."

I'm just waiting for the media to start charging into hospitals and decrying the fact that there are far too many whiteys, Indians, and asians there.

Or have they already started to do that?

Tomorrow morning I'm going to run out to the freeway onramp and complain to the hispanic guy selling oranges that I'm fed up with Hispanics having all the cool orange-selling and flower-hocking jobs.

Sigh...

Once again, the media wants to just give it to blacks as a gift, don't they.Edited by: GiovaniMarcon

 

[Sean]

I agree Don but Spencer Tillman, one of CBS's black talking heads said roughly "college football needs to look itself in the mirror and give these qualified coaches a chance." What a load of BS! He wouldn't even comment on Croom's lack of success. Same with Willingham. The problem is that NO black college coaches have been proven winners. The ones that have been given a chance usually do not fare well. Its no wonder that colleges don't want to hire them. Now there are 2 blacks coaches in the FBS.

I saw when Spencer Tillman said that...I had to chuckle.

Once again, the media wants to just give it to blacks as a gift, don't they.

Yes they do

 

[Van_Slyke_CF]

Colonel Reb wrote:

"The problem is that NO black college coaches have been proven winners."

But what about Turner Gill at Buffalo? That's big-time, isn't it?

 

[FieldThrower]

Step 1: Good, smart white NCAA player goes to NFL for maybe 1 or 2 years if he is lucky, while his black counterparts go become all-pros and make millions for 10-15 years.

Step 2: White player inevitably gets cut, if he gets a camp invite, and goes back to his college as a grad assistant.

Step 3: White player's skills and football savvy make him climb the coaching ranks, and gain experience while black players of his age are using the 70-30 black-white ratio in the NFL to their advantage, and gaining playing experience.

Step 4: After lengthy career, black player decides to retire from the sport. He still wants an income source related to football, so he has a few options - be a coach, be a "color" commentator for ESPN, NFL network, or one of the broadcast networks that cover pro or college football, or sign autographs at sports memorabilia conventions.

Step 5: So the black former player decides college football coach. The best he can hope for right off the bat is a position coach at a major university. He still is at a huge disadvantage to his white counterpart, who is now a 10-15 year veteran coach, who is in his mid to late 30s. He may even have a head coaching job at a major university by now, and who knows - could be the one hiring the ex-pro-bowler to his position coach slot.

Step 6: The NFL hotshot tries coaching for about 5-10 years, noticing a bunch of guys are still far more experienced and skilled coaches, and 15 years his junior. The white head coach is now making $1-4 million/year at his new top-level head coaching job, and the NFL player decides he should take up golf or buy a ranch somewhere. After all, his bank account is bursting at the seams, and he didn't realize how much work this coaching stuff would be. He had a fun couple years coaching, but now it's on to something else.

OK, this is just one example, but I'm sure it's happened a couple times. I think it's safe to say that the caste system for players contributes quite a bit to the inverse system for coaches. Not only do some players become coaches after college, but some do it after high school, after the local colleges don't offer them a scholarship. They then join the high school coaching staff, and move up the high school ranks. Many then go on to college ranks to be some of the most legendary college football head coaches, and some even go on the NFL.

 

[Bronk]

FieldThrower is correct, the white guys work their way to jobs by sacrificing early as grad assistants doing the grinding coaching grunt work: driving all over creation to scout, breaking down tapes, handling agility drills, keeping the prima donnas in line, coaching subvarsity high school teams etc., etc.

Blacks come into the profession looking to be made offensive coordinator right off the bat. Check the grad assistants at most any college/university and you'll find they're white.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

FieldThrower is correct, the white guys work their way to jobs by sacrificing early as grad assistants doing the grinding coaching grunt work: driving all over creation to scout, breaking down tapes, handling agility drills, keeping the prima donnas in line, coaching subvarsity high school teams etc., etc.

Blacks come into the profession looking to be made offensive coordinator right off the bat. Check the grad assistants at most any college/university and you'll find they're white.

Correct indeed gentlemen. College coaches work insane hours (year round) and only make good money when they get to the D1 "powerhouse" level and/or HC, DC or OC. Many spend years as position coaches in the bush leagues & work their way up to the D1 upper level programs.

 

[Van_Slyke_CF]

I was just watching the Ball State-Buffalo game and the announcers, Chris Spielman and Sean McDonough, were discussing whether or not college football needs some sort of "Rooney Rule" to address the "appalling" fact that only 3 of 119 Division 1A coaches so far for 2009 are black.

It was pathetic how they showed no backbone in the discussion and simply said it was needed. Of course they wouldn't want to draw any attention to the blatant discrimination against white players that has been going on for decades, no sirree!

If they believe that someday 50% of the coaches should be black as 50% of the players are, then how would they feel if one of them was fired to make room for the requisite 50% black announcers in the broadcast booth?

 

[white is right]

Colonel Reb wrote:

"The problem is that NO black college coaches have been proven winners."

But what about Turner Gill at Buffalo? That's big-time, isn't it?

He won't be at UB for much longer and will get a shot at former big time program that is currently down. Will he succeed who knows? Part of the problem for any coach at his level is that it is much easier to build a mid major up, since the competition is much worse than in the Big 10, PAC 10, Big 12 and the SEC. Tryone Willingham is probably going to have to go to a D1 doormat like a Rice or Baylor if he wants a head coaching job. Not that he deserves even that with his abysmal record at Washington and Notre Dame.

 

[FieldThrower]

If they believe that someday 50% of the coaches should be black as 50% of the players are, then how would they feel if one of them was fired to make room for the requisite 50% black announcers in the broadcast booth?

Never underestimate the power of selfishness. Keeping one's job in the short term usually supercedes all other concerns - especially when they pay as well as ESPN does for one 3 hour game a week.

 

[Don Wassall]

Another black claiming "racism" because his wife is white. More whining, promoted uncritically by the media.
<H1>Report: Florida assistant Strong says race affected opportunities </H1>


Florida defensive coordinator Charlie Strong believes race was a reason he hasn't been offered a head-coaching job during his 25 years in college football, a newspaper reported Tuesday.


Strong, a 48-year-old black man, shook his head affirmatively when an Orlando Sentinel reporter asked him if his interracial marriage was a factor in getting passed over for jobs including one at a Southern school a few years ago. Strong, whose wife is white, said he heard that too many times for it to be rumor.


"Everybody always said I didn't get that job because my wife is white," Strong said at media day Monday. "If you think about it, a coach is standing up there representing the university. If you're not strong enough to look through that (interracial marriage), then you have an issue."


[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/01/06/fl orida.strong.ap/index.html[/url]

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Charlie Strong is grossly overrated as a DC btw.