NFL 100 ALL-Time Team

[sport historian]

The NFL Network tonight did a show announcing the running backs on the NFL 100 All-Time Team from a "Blue Ribbon Panel." There were 24 nominees, 12 were selected.

12 Running Backs Making the Team.

Jim Brown
Earl Campbell
Dutch Clark
Eric Dickerson
Lenny Moore
Marion Motley
Walter Payton
Barry Sanders
Gale Sayers
O.J. Simpson
Emmitt Smith
Steve Van Buren


12 Finalists Who Did Not.

Marcus Allen
Jerome Bettis
Tony Dorsett
Marshall Faulk
Red Grange
Franco Harris
Hugh McElhenny
Bronko Nagurski
Adrian Peterson
Jim Taylor
Thurman Thomas
LaDanian Tomlinson


They tried to spread the selections over eras and time. Dutch Clark from the 30s and Steve Van Buren of the 40s. Moore was a surprise. He was mainly a flanker in his peak years. Nagurski had previously been on these all time teams instead of Clark.

 

[white is right]

The NFL Network tonight did a show announcing the running backs on the NFL 100 All-Time Team from a "Blue Ribbon Panel." There were 24 nominees, 12 were selected.

12 Running Backs Making the Team.

Jim Brown
Earl Campbell
Dutch Clark
Eric Dickerson
Lenny Moore
Marion Motley
Walter Payton
Barry Sanders
Gale Sayers
O.J. Simpson
Emmitt Smith
Steve Van Buren


12 Finalists Who Did Not.

Marcus Allen
Jerome Bettis
Tony Dorsett
Marshall Faulk
Red Grange
Franco Harris
Hugh McElhenny
Bronko Nagurski
Adrian Peterson
Jim Taylor
Thurman Thomas
LaDanian Tomlinson


They tried to spread the selections over eras and time. Dutch Clark from the 30s and Steve Van Buren of the 40s. Moore was a surprise. He was mainly a flanker in his peak years. Nagurski had previously been on these all time teams instead of Clark.

So Red Grange the biggest star in the 20's is omitted but other era stars are left on the roster? Jim Thorpe didn't make the cut down list? Also Joe Perry(Black) could have been on the cut down list too, and Barry Sanders wasn't a complete back who did too many things wrong to be on the final list (as spectacular as he was).

 

[La France Blanche]

Are they doing fullbacks separately?

I'm guessing the Juice's name was accompanied by a lot of "hurr durr off-field actions don't take away accomplishments on the field blah blah blah" (which mysteriously doesn't seem to apply to Pete Rose).

Bettis is a surprise to be on the list, even as one not making the final cut - he had a very good career, but to me he's not a serious contender for one of the top dozen running backs of all time.

 

[sport historian]

Are they doing fullbacks separately?

I'm guessing the Juice's name was accompanied by a lot of "hurr durr off-field actions don't take away accomplishments on the field blah blah blah" (which mysteriously doesn't seem to apply to Pete Rose).

Bettis is a surprise to be on the list, even as one not making the final cut - he had a very good career, but to me he's not a serious contender for one of the top dozen running backs of all time.

For these lists fullbacks and halfbacks are grouped together.

Pete Rose was involved in gambling, which pro sports considers the worst of sins.

These kind of lists are always subjective. Bettis didn't make the top 12 anyway.

 

[white is right]

Are they doing fullbacks separately?

I'm guessing the Juice's name was accompanied by a lot of "hurr durr off-field actions don't take away accomplishments on the field blah blah blah" (which mysteriously doesn't seem to apply to Pete Rose).

Bettis is a surprise to be on the list, even as one not making the final cut - he had a very good career, but to me he's not a serious contender for one of the top dozen running backs of all time.

Brown, Motley, Van Buren were all fullbacks in the classical sense. So were Nagurski, Taylor and Harris who didn't make the final cut.

I never thought of Clark as a running back before this list because he was really an option quarterback(similar to the way Lamar Jackson is described), the segment on Clark I caught at the gym BB described the all around skills of Clark getting him on the list. If that was the criteria than Thorpe should have at least been on the cut down list ahead of Bettis, or maybe Thomas.

PS, Csonka was on the greatest running backs panel a few months back, but with old football players many aren't lucid near the end of their lives so Csonka might have been considered for that reason. Even Jim Brown doesn't talk above a whisper now and could die at any time now as he doesn't walk anymore from what I saw when he visited the Cleveland Browns training facility in the 2018 training camp.

 

[sport historian]

This week more members were announced:

Defensive End

Doug Atkins
Bill Hewitt
Deacon Jones
Gino Marchetti
Lee Roy Selmon
Bruce Smith
Reggie White


Defensive Tackle

Buck Buchanan
Joe Greene
Bob Lilly
Merlin Olsen
Alan Page
John Randle
Randy White


Outside Linebacker

Chuck Bednarik
Bobby Bell
Derrick Brooks
Jack Ham
Ted Hendricks
Lawrence Taylor


Middle Linebacker

Dick Butkus
Jack Lambert
Willie Lanier
Ray Lewis
Joe Schmidt
Junior Seau

 

[sport historian]

The NFL 100 All-Time Quarterbacks have been announced.

Sammy Baugh
Tom Brady
John Elway
Brett Favre
Otto Graham
Peyton Manning
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Roger Staubach
John Unitas

 

[sport historian]

The NFL 100 All-Time Wide Receivers.

Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Larry Fitzgerald
Raymond Berry
Lance Alworth
Paul Warfield
Marvin Harrison
Don Hutson
Elroy Hirsch
Steve Largent

 

[BeyondFedUp]

Thanks sport historian,
It's good to see these lists aren't full-on caste or duped modern-day proponents of black supremacy. At least not that bad IMO.

 

[sport historian]

Thanks sport historian,
It's good to see these lists aren't full-on caste or duped modern-day proponents of black supremacy. At least not that bad IMO.

The Blue Ribbon Committee made an effort to pick someone from each era. These kind of lists are always subjective, but they did a reasonably good job.

 

[rajuncajun]

45 out of 100 isn’t too bad and all of the Coaches as well!

 

[Don Wassall]

The Blue Ribbon Committee made an effort to pick someone from each era. These kind of lists are always subjective, but they did a reasonably good job.

That's fair, especially given that the general attitude supporting the big lie of black athletic supremacy is that NFL players are always getting "bigger, faster, stronger and more athletic!!" Never is there any decline in any way, even as the general population has been swiftly deteriorating physically and mentally for quite some time.

With some training and updating, players from the past could more than hold their own with today's product. Same with baseball, would love to see how Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Honus Wagner, the Babe, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, et. al. would fare today.

 

[backrow]

If those players had access to modern supplements and nutrition (and all of the science) there is no doubt in my mind that they would blow current "stars" out of the water. I mean defense could actually tackle back then and players had sound fundamentals. Not to mention that even only 40-50 years ago people were much tougher overall.

 

[Shadowlight]

The players were tougher back then that is irrefutable. Not even close.

Tackling? Yes there was a time when many to most NFL defenses featured six or more white defenders and if you watch old Super Bowl footage you see perfect tackling techniques and ferocious physicality that did not include head shots for the most part. You saw alert white safeties in proper positions and making disruptive plays.

If you compare the eras you would think these new modern mainly black defensive unit looks are playing some sort of semi flag football. And the cluelessness is rampant.

 

[sport historian]

Also, skill position players wear gloves, form-fitting gloves designed to catch the football. This makes passing easier as well. Some years ago, someone commented that with so many blacks playing, wearing gloves became the norm.

 

[greyghost]

Where's John riggins ...

 

[dwid]

Also, skill position players wear gloves, form-fitting gloves designed to catch the football. This makes passing easier as well. Some years ago, someone commented that with so many blacks playing, wearing gloves became the norm.

Yet every time Fred Biletnikoff is mentioned they bring up him using stickum to help catch. From everything I hear, the gloves nowadays are much better than wearing stickum.

A recent MIT study says it's about 20 percent stickier than a hand.


“It is macroscopically a solid,” Kumar explained of the silicone. “But at shorter, microscopic lengths, it is liquidlike.”

That liquidlike property makes it sticky. Imagine a tight spiral thrown onto a hard surface like a road. It skips right off. Now imagine the same ball chucked into a large puddle of honey. The honey makes the grab. That is because the silicone surface of the gloves is, at the microscopic level, a viscous, honeylike liquid, and when a football comes in contact with it, the ball stalls in it the way it would on the surface of a gooey liquid, like the honey. The ball must work to get through it."

Damn I should have worn these when I played

 

[dwid]

That's fair, especially given that the general attitude supporting the big lie of black athletic supremacy is that NFL players are always getting "bigger, faster, stronger and more athletic!!" Never is there any decline in any way, even as the general population has been swiftly deteriorating physically and mentally for quite some time.

With some training and updating, players from the past could more than hold their own with today's product. Same with baseball, would love to see how Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Honus Wagner, the Babe, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, et. al. would fare today.

I definitely think so.

In Lombardi's 60s playbooks it states the minimum speed required for a halfback is 4.7. Nowadays they have training for the 40 down to a science where pretty much every player at the combine sees a speed coach. With proper training and technique you can easily shave off .2 from your times.

Yet we still have halfbacks and receivers that run 4.7 that are successful (Blount, Arian Foster, Rex Burkhead, Boldin) in the NFL.

100s more that have success at the FBS level, even with 4.8 and 4.9 times at the NFL combine. Yet our guys are still not "athletic" enough to get D1 scholarships. I know the 40 is overrated but most of these guys had pretty bad shuttle and 3 cone times too, except some of our guys who excelled in every drill except the 40, like TJ Moe who ran a similar 40 as Anquan Boldin but almost a second faster in the 3 cone drill, and almost a half second faster in the 20 yard shuttle. One was a 2nd round pick the other never got a chance.

 

[sport historian]

Where's John riggins ...

John Riggins didn't make the top 24. Jerome Bettis and Franco Harris were picked ahead of him, neither made the top 12. Bettis' "compiling" was ahead of Riggins and Harris was on more winners.

The PFRA Forum of pro football historians considered four selections questionable: Doug Atkins ("inconsistent"), Elroy Hirsch (only one super-great year). Gene Upshaw, and Art Shell.

But as I said it's all subjective.

 

[Rocky B]

I had a neighbor that worked briefly with the NFL.....One of the players gave him some gloves the receivers use and I put them on and we chucked the ball in the street....
Back in the day, I could catch a football....We would practice diving catches and one hand grabs while growing up......When I put those gloves on, at 40+ years old, I felt I could pluck anything out of the air....They make a huge difference.......

Yet every time Fred Biletnikoff is mentioned they bring up him using stickum to help catch. From everything I hear, the gloves nowadays are much better than wearing stickum.

A recent MIT study says it's about 20 percent stickier than a hand.


“It is macroscopically a solid,” Kumar explained of the silicone. “But at shorter, microscopic lengths, it is liquidlike.”

That liquidlike property makes it sticky. Imagine a tight spiral thrown onto a hard surface like a road. It skips right off. Now imagine the same ball chucked into a large puddle of honey. The honey makes the grab. That is because the silicone surface of the gloves is, at the microscopic level, a viscous, honeylike liquid, and when a football comes in contact with it, the ball stalls in it the way it would on the surface of a gooey liquid, like the honey. The ball must work to get through it."

Damn I should have worn these when I played

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[Extra Point]

I had a neighbor that worked briefly with the NFL.....One of the players gave him some gloves the receivers use and I put them on and we chucked the ball in the street....
Back in the day, I could catch a football....We would practice diving catches and one hand grabs while growing up......When I put those gloves on, at 40+ years old, I felt I could pluck anything out of the air....They make a huge difference.......

Yet you still see so many receivers dropping passes.

 

[limitless]

If an all white, all time NFL all star team played an all time, all black NFL all star team, I would bet money on the white team.

If this country Balkanized, and the blacks had their own state (or even better moved back home), the NFL would still be great.