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Gator Dad

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Sailer is an HBDer, which means he believes in a sort of "balancing act" concerning human racial differences. I don't expect him to change his position much he has had it for years.
There's no reason for "balancing acts" to occur in nature. For example, and to make this as much of an apples-to-apples comparison as possible, take two birds of similar size - the eagle and the dodo. The eagle is superior in every way - faster, stronger, smarter, better eyesight, and can fly. There is no "balancing act" on behalf of the dodo. This is why HBD is not a pure science - it is certainly science-based, but it's tainted by politically correct politics, as, sadly, so many scientific fields are these days.

HBDers are classic "alt-lighters" who want to cautiously express some controversial ideas without straying too far off the PC plantation and getting themselves canceled. The problem is that it won't work. Cancel culture is totalitarian; it has zero tolerance for dissent of any kind. James Watson, the co-discoverer of DNA and a far more brilliant scientist than Sailer or any other HBDer, was canceled for a statement that was milder than many of the things Sailer has said. HBDers think they can compromise or reason with wokeness. They can't. No one can. Woke people are ideological fanatics who will never compromise with anyone and cannot ever be reasoned with.

HBDers also think they can appeal to black people by selling them the "supa affletes" talking point. It won't work either. No one wants to be told that their race has a low average IQ, least of all a race with the "we wuz kangz" mentality. No amount of "at least you guys are supa affletes" sugar-coating will be enough to sufficiently sweeten the bitterness of the low IQ red pill.
 

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It’s certainly possible that certain groups could be stronger at some things and weaker at others but as you rightly point out, it’s not a guarantee.

I work with some pretty sharp black folks and to some degree I think talented blacks do get caught up in the mess that is the American school system

None of that changes the fact that, sadly, they commit far more crime, have lower iqs, and lower impulse control.

There are plenty of athletic whites and plenty of athletic blacks. Reading this site has helped me realize how many of our people don’t get the opportunities they should. Thanks to all for documenting this
 

Gator Dad

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It’s certainly possible that certain groups could be stronger at some things and weaker at others but as you rightly point out, it’s not a guarantee.

I work with some pretty sharp black folks and to some degree I think talented blacks do get caught up in the mess that is the American school system

None of that changes the fact that, sadly, they commit far more crime, have lower iqs, and lower impulse control.

There are plenty of athletic whites and plenty of athletic blacks. Reading this site has helped me realize how many of our people don’t get the opportunities they should. Thanks to all for documenting this
Of course certain groups are stronger at some things and weaker at others. The problem with HBDers is they think it all balances out perfectly so that in their minds, "yes, there are differences between groups of humans, but every group weakness is balanced by a strength that counters it exactly, so at the end of the day all people are equal."
 

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There's no reason for "balancing acts" to occur in nature. For example, and to make this as much of an apples-to-apples comparison as possible, take two birds of similar size - the eagle and the dodo. The eagle is superior in every way - faster, stronger, smarter, better eyesight, and can fly. There is no "balancing act" on behalf of the dodo. This is why HBD is not a pure science - it is certainly science-based, but it's tainted by politically correct politics, as, sadly, so many scientific fields are these days.

HBDers are classic "alt-lighters" who want to cautiously express some controversial ideas without straying too far off the PC plantation and getting themselves canceled. The problem is that it won't work. Cancel culture is totalitarian; it has zero tolerance for dissent of any kind. James Watson, the co-discoverer of DNA and a far more brilliant scientist than Sailer or any other HBDer, was canceled for a statement that was milder than many of the things Sailer has said. HBDers think they can compromise or reason with wokeness. They can't. No one can. Woke people are ideological fanatics who will never compromise with anyone and cannot ever be reasoned with.

HBDers also think they can appeal to black people by selling them the "supa affletes" talking point. It won't work either. No one wants to be told that their race has a low average IQ, least of all a race with the "we wuz kangz" mentality. No amount of "at least you guys are supa affletes" sugar-coating will be enough to sufficiently sweeten the bitterness of the low IQ red pill.
Yes - compromising never works. This sort of stuff from HBDers fuels caste narratives and inflates black narcissism, extra bad since it's coming from supposedly "our guys" making it unnecessarily more difficult to argue against.
 
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There's no reason for "balancing acts" to occur in nature. For example, and to make this as much of an apples-to-apples comparison as possible, take two birds of similar size - the eagle and the dodo. The eagle is superior in every way - faster, stronger, smarter, better eyesight, and can fly. There is no "balancing act" on behalf of the dodo. This is why HBD is not a pure science - it is certainly science-based, but it's tainted by politically correct politics, as, sadly, so many scientific fields are these days.

HBDers are classic "alt-lighters" who want to cautiously express some controversial ideas without straying too far off the PC plantation and getting themselves canceled. The problem is that it won't work. Cancel culture is totalitarian; it has zero tolerance for dissent of any kind. James Watson, the co-discoverer of DNA and a far more brilliant scientist than Sailer or any other HBDer, was canceled for a statement that was milder than many of the things Sailer has said. HBDers think they can compromise or reason with wokeness. They can't. No one can. Woke people are ideological fanatics who will never compromise with anyone and cannot ever be reasoned with.

HBDers also think they can appeal to black people by selling them the "supa affletes" talking point. It won't work either. No one wants to be told that their race has a low average IQ, least of all a race with the "we wuz kangz" mentality. No amount of "at least you guys are supa affletes" sugar-coating will be enough to sufficiently sweeten the bitterness of the low IQ red pill.
You nailed it.
 

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I'm old enough to remember the 1972 Munich Summer Olympics where eleven Israelis of the Olympic team were killed by terrorists supporting Palestine. The whole world stopped it seemed as the drama unfolded in the Olympic village. Here we are over 50 years later and things are worst. I see a potential for trouble at the 2024 Paris Summer Olympic. Maybe there will be just mere protest if they are lucky.

Swimming-Israel swimmer booed by crowd in sour finish to World Championships

 

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I'm old enough to remember the 1972 Munich Summer Olympics where eleven Israelis of the Olympic team were killed by terrorists supporting Palestine. The whole world stopped it seemed as the drama unfolded in the Olympic village. Here we are over 50 years later and things are worst. I see a potential for trouble at the 2024 Paris Summer Olympic. Maybe there will be just mere protest if they are lucky.

Swimming-Israel swimmer booed by crowd in sour finish to World Championships

One difference is after 72' all hosts are some what prepared for terrorist actions against athletes and the facilities are close to entering a military base.

The easiest solution for the Palestinian perpetual problem is to force Israeli negotiators to go in a room with the Palestinian negotiators and tell the two sides that they have to stay in the facility until a deal is worked out or funding for both sides are cut off.

The two sides would have a deal with a week or so and then tell both sides that their funding would be cut off if the deal isn't vigorously enforced.

Thousands of lives would be saved plus it would save millions in paying for diplomats wages and supporting staff fees.

Or we could have this primitive solution..
 

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I'm old enough to remember the 1972 Munich Summer Olympics where eleven Israelis of the Olympic team were killed by terrorists supporting Palestine. The whole world stopped it seemed as the drama unfolded in the Olympic village. Here we are over 50 years later and things are worst. I see a potential for trouble at the 2024 Paris Summer Olympic. Maybe there will be just mere protest if they are lucky.

Swimming-Israel swimmer booed by crowd in sour finish to World Championships

Yeah in ideal world this may work but, in reality there's no chance. Israel doesn't want a deal. They are accomplishing their plan. Granted there is now sentiment against them but, they plan on using their media megaphone and political influence to ride it out. There are no good faith negotiations with Israel.

It is important for us to recognize this.
 

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There's no reason for "balancing acts" to occur in nature. For example, and to make this as much of an apples-to-apples comparison as possible, take two birds of similar size - the eagle and the dodo. The eagle is superior in every way - faster, stronger, smarter, better eyesight, and can fly. There is no "balancing act" on behalf of the dodo. This is why HBD is not a pure science - it is certainly science-based, but it's tainted by politically correct politics, as, sadly, so many scientific fields are these days.

HBDers are classic "alt-lighters" who want to cautiously express some controversial ideas without straying too far off the PC plantation and getting themselves canceled. The problem is that it won't work. Cancel culture is totalitarian; it has zero tolerance for dissent of any kind.
This is a very insightful post. Bravo
 

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One difference is after 72' all hosts are some what prepared for terrorist actions against athletes and the facilities are close to entering a military base.

The easiest solution for the Palestinian perpetual problem is to force Israeli negotiators to go in a room with the Palestinian negotiators and tell the two sides that they have to stay in the facility until a deal is worked out or funding for both sides are cut off.

The two sides would have a deal with a week or so and then tell both sides that their funding would be cut off if the deal isn't vigorously enforced.

Thousands of lives would be saved plus it would save millions in paying for diplomats wages and supporting staff fees.

Or we could have this primitive solution..

Very good idea !
 

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The world needs more Tony Sopranos and Vic Mackeys. Who knew!? Last time White Men were allowed to play alphas was early 2000s cinema.
 

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Very good idea !
Nothing can stop someone willing to die for a cause. Remember the 96 Olympic Park bombing? Eric Rudolph could have killed nearly anyone he wanted. It only took our elite law enforcement agencies 7 years to catch him.
 

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Shocking, absolutely shocking, that a brawl would break out at an event called "We Ball Sports." And in the center of the action was none other than Cam Newton, wearing a hat he apparently borrowed from the Wicked Witch of the West:

 
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