Minnesota High School Football

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Minnesota has turned into a hotbed of white football players with Suburbs(white schools)blowing out inner city schools every year.

The Minnesota Athletic association even tries to tip the scales so an inner city school makes it to state, but they never do because their really aren't enough black schools to form their own sectionals and sub-state competition to guarantee a participant.

Every year, an all white school wins large school state championships. What happens next is a disgrace, recruiters come in and "cherry" pick the "great" black athletes from failed inner city schools and offer them scholarships.

If players are lucky, they will get scholarship offers from our local 1-AA schools like South Datoka State and North Dakota State. A few scholarships will get divided up into remaining D-II schools like Augustana(SD) and Minnesota-Duluth, Morehead State etc. Usually these teams win lower Division national championships every year, too.

I personally follow one conference and go to my local teams game every week. The conference is the lake conference. We have won the large school championship 5 of the last 9 years.

Their are loads of Division I prospects in these schools. The coaching is brilliant.

For example, our football coach starts them from Junior High with summer conditioning programs focussing on Plyometrics.

What disgusted me and motivated me to do this was a running back named Brylee Callendar, carried Lakeville to the state championship two years ago. This kid was 6'2" 220 and ran legitimate 4.4. He is in JC in California right now so he may get his chance but if he was black we all know the story.....

First player up...Jake Machacek, RB, Eastview High SchoolEdited by: voice
 
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The annual dominance of mostly white suburban high school football teams over mostly black urban teams seems to hold true nationwide. That reality alone, which hasn't changed as the Caste System was implemented in football, is prima facie proof that whites make great football players at every position, even though most positions are barred to them after high school.
 
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i was one of those white running backs to go to south dakota state
 

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thanks for reply Mr Wonderfull...

I follow South Dakota State and North Dakota State.

The latest Sagarin football rankings have North Dakota State as the 60th best team in Division I-A or I-AA.

I just hope university of Minnesota dares to start scheduling these teams as I predict upsets if they do!

Now that they have 65 scholarships in I-AA they have a chance!

I have heard more that a couple of stories of MN preps that choose these teams over MN and Iowa State etc. I understand why now!

Although I see North Dakota State is falling into the trap of recruiting crappy black running backs..check this out

http://www.gobison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=11845&SPID=695 &DB_OEM_ID=2400&ATCLID=74220&Q_SEASON=2005


Black RB Mark Moore

Ran for 780 yards
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and six TDs as a senior and averaged 5.8 yards per carry...Picked up 671 yards as a junior and 340 yards as a sophomore with a combined total of 11 TDs those two campaigns.

Wow!!780 yards as a running back..yep give him a scholarship alright! BTW he has had 10 yards in 3 years at the NDSU!

Last years #1 runner and all Great West

Kyle Steffes-white running back
Kyle Steffes 11-11 197 109035 10555.4 1350 95.9
Cinque Chapman11-0& nbsp;165 76023 7374.54&nbsp ;27 67.0
S. Washington 9-117 2172 215 12.6280 23.9


I am watching these teams closely to see if they change what has been making them successful--i.e. recruiting white players!
 

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A few things I don't like about black running backs:

1. They step out of bounds when they are about to be tackled.
2. They don't put much effort into blocking.
3. They fumble too much.
4. They carry the ball in the wrong hand.
5. End zone dances and celebration after first downs.
 
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voice,


i actually was recruited by the gophers for linebacker and recieved running back mvp award at thiersummer camp. Anyways they didnt offer a scholarship and i was more than happy to go to sdsu. i would love to seee the jacks or bison play the gophers. i also have a feeling the gophers would get an unpleasant surprise.. however i see a trend at sdsu going black now also.


Gary, not every white guy is as unathletic is you...Get over it!!!!
 

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Hey Prince of Wales, why the asperity regarding mr. wonderfull's claim to have been recruited by SDSU? Call me naive but unless I have reason to be dubious of someone's claims I think the benefit of the doubt should be extended. Welcome aboard mr. wonderfull.
 

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I don't think Gary meant any harm.He is just sick of guys like Pignuts coming here and posting lie after lie.Welcome to the board to voice & mr.wonderful.I can't wait to see alot more white running backs in college.It's been a long time coming!
 

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Your right White lightning-I am sick of the pignuts of this world-Mr.Wonderful you wrote"unathletic is you" nice grammer! Now if your who you claim to be I do indeed wish you all the best. Surfsider since you think I'm the real Prince of Wales you can call me His Majesty!Now lets stop this nonsense IF I made a mistake,lets get over it and move on!
 

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Gary said:
Your right White lightning-I am sick of the pignuts of this world-Mr.Wonderful you wrote"unathletic is you" nice grammer! Now if your who you claim to be I do indeed wish you all the best. Surfsider since you think I'm the real Prince of Wales you can call me His Majesty!Now lets stop this nonsense IF I made a mistake,lets get over it and move on!


Gary, I can vouch for Mr. Wonderfull. I lead him to this site. I wish I could tell more of his story, but I will leave that up to him. He definitely had the size, speed, andSTRENGTH combination coming out of high school to deserve a D-I scholarship. I believe he still holds a MN track and field record that was the best in the nation the year he set it. As he said, after being recruited by the UofMN his home state D-I University decided not to offer him a scholarship. Typical caste story that happens to fit nicely in this thread. That's as much as I can say right now.


BTW, "grammer" is spelled GRAMMAR.
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Thanks for the info and English lesson. I wish Mr.Wonderful all the best. I know SDSU-I live in South Dakota.
 
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NDSU rb Kyle Steffes ran for 179 yards on 19 carries as NDSU blows out Webber State 41-0. NDSU is now ranked 6 in 1aa. SDSU moved up to 15 after a close 7-0 loss to #1 Montana.
 
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voice said:
Minnesota has turned into a hotbed of white football players with Suburbs(white schools)blowing out inner city schools every year.

The Minnesota Athletic association even tries to tip the scales so an inner city school makes it to state, but they never do because their really aren't enough black schools to form their own sectionals and sub-state competition to guarantee a participant.

Every year, an all white school wins large school state championships. What happens next is a disgrace, recruiters come in and "cherry" pick the "great" black athletes from failed inner city schools and offer them scholarships.

If players are lucky, they will get scholarship offers from our local 1-AA schools like South Datoka State and North Dakota State. A few scholarships will get divided up into remaining D-II schools like Augustana(SD) and Minnesota-Duluth, Morehead State etc. Usually these teams win lower Division national championships every year, too.

I personally follow one conference and go to my local teams game every week. The conference is the lake conference. We have won the large school championship 5 of the last 9 years.

Their are loads of Division I prospects in these schools. The coaching is brilliant.

For example, our football coach starts them from Junior High with summer conditioning programs focussing on Plyometrics.

What disgusted me and motivated me to do this was a running back named Brylee Callendar, carried Lakeville to the state championship two years ago. This kid was 6'2" 220 and ran legitimate 4.4. He is in JC in California right now so he may get his chance but if he was black we all know the story.....


Texas regularly leads the nation in D1 propects and in the quality of HS Football - let me enlighten you --


Here's the deal with inner city schools in the DFW area. I have a friend that coaches is the Dallas ISD. The advantange that the suburban schools have over the inner city schools is the ability of the Head Coaches in the suburbs to dictate to the feeder schools the type of system that the younger players use. By the time they are ready for varsity action they have been in the program since they were 7th graders. All of the base formations and plays are second nature by then. Coupled with the fact that suburban families have a more stable home life. The kids see the same thing until they get to the varsity level. Contrastly, inner city kids move from place to place and never get to settle into one single football philosophy. By the time they get to high school they may have moved seven different times and are learning an eighth system in HS. So when the two schools meet talent is trumped by coaching. During the playoffs you'll see suburban schools routinely beating the inner city schools because of this. The DISD has caught on to this practice from the suburbs and are now encouraging the HS head coaches to take ownership of their feeder schools to implement this type of program in order to take advantage of the top talent that comes out of the DISD. Keep this in mind. Last year Texas HS football players were offered 345 D1 scholarships, 1/3 of them came from the Dallas area. Keeping in mind that D1 coaches always take talent and upside over what's been done on the HS football field. A good example of this is elite football program will take a DE that is 6'4" and weighs 210 lbs. over an over achieving DE that is 6" and weighs 230 lbs. They can bulk the skinny propect up to a solid 285 after a couple of years in the program. The big guy in HS has probably reached his growth potential and done all he's going to do in HS given the advantages he has had by being in one single program for the last 6 years. As the old coaching saying goes "you can't coach speed" --


Carter HS regularly sends there top propects to the elite D1 programs in the country - Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Miami you get the idea. Southlake does send talent to D1 schools, but they are the second and third teir schools like Baylor, BYU, Texas State, Missouri typically not your championship level programs.
 

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[So when the two schools meet talent is trumped by coaching]

Inner City coaches have mostly black coaches and athletic directors. Are you saying that blacks aren't smart enough to be coaches? Are you some kind of racist? This is appauling in this day and age! I want a tearful apology!
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we shall overcome!
 
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Kaptain Poop said:
[So when the two schools meet talent is trumped by coaching]

Inner City coaches have mostly black coaches and athletic directors. Are you saying that blacks aren't smart enough to be coaches? Are you some kind of racist? This is appauling in this day and age! I want a tearful apology!
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we shall overcome!


My point is simply this, familiarity breeds success, repetion of base plays and fundamentals is the core of success on the football field. If you happened to get the chance to see the movie Friday Night Lights. The story off Odessa Permian football you can see what I'm trying to say about familiarity and football. Odessa Permian had a streak of about 30 years of unprecedented football. They won the 5A state championship 7 times in Texas. I've seen there program and how they run there feeder schools. By the time those youngsters were ready to play at the varsity level all of the fundamentals were in place. They were ready for the business of winning. This concept has taken hold throughout Texas and is replicated throughout the most successfull programs in the state today. When you couple this level of familiarity with better talent you get winning football. From a coaching perspective you already know who your players are by the time they hit the freshman teams.To summarize, suburban schools have been able to take advantage of this approach because of smaller school districts an the ability to reach a consensus easier. The larger urban school districts have taken on this approach and will start to see the benefits of a unified coaching approach in about 3 to four years.
 

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  As the old coaching saying goes "you can't coach speed"
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I have a saying of my own; "You can't coach stupid". You're posts fall into that category.
Keep trying to reason why white kids don't get scholarships even though they dominate their black counterparts. It's humorous to me.Edited by: Kaptain Poop
 

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You are proving my point for me. What you are perceiving is better "talent" and "athleticism" is basically uncoachable and undisciplined black man chaos even when they "learn" systems in college and pros.

It may be true that high school suburban schools are better coached and the kids see the system throughout their junior high years and this translates to on the field execution in high school. IMO, this would translate to the college or pro level when systems get even more difficult to execute.

When you see an Army and Air Force College team that can beat "athletic" and "talented" all mostly black recruited schools with their talent,they do this with kids that never would have been offerred DI scholarships . They would have to hope they are able to get grants for their academic abilities to afford D3 tuition and then play football. They beat them by with their own talent(both athleticism and discipline)executed to perfection on the field of play.

When the caste system is turned off, the USA Black Basketball team gets hammered by non caste system European Teams and all White European teams or a mixture of white and mulatto Brazillians win the world cup every 4 years even though all of Africa tries to learn soccer from when they can walk.

I hope this enlightens you
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Futbol_69

You are proving my point for me. What you are perceiving is better "talent" and "athleticism" is basically uncoachable and undisciplined black man chaos even when they "learn" systems in college and pros.

It may be true that high school suburban schools are better coached and the kids see the system throughout their junior high years and this translates to on the field execution in high school. IMO, this would translate to the college or pro level when systems get even more difficult to execute.

When you see an Army and Air Force College team that can beat "athletic" and "talented" all mostly black recruited schools with their talent,they do this with kids that never would have been offerred DI scholarships . They would have to hope they are able to get grants for their academic abilities to afford D3 tuition and then play football. They beat them by with their own talent(both athleticism and discipline)executed to perfection on the field of play.

When the caste system is turned off, the USA Black Basketball team gets hammered by non caste system European Teams and all White European teams or a mixture of white and mulatto Brazillians win the world cup every 4 years even though all of Africa tries to learn soccer from when they can walk.


D1 schools are limited to 85 football scholarships at any given time. It is the coaches job to allocate that resource in a way that will give the university the best return. I don't think that a major revenue producing sport like football or basketball would risk there limited resources on talent they think can't compete at the elite level. Of the 117 D1 football progams, only the top 30 can truly say they are conduits to the NFL. Prospects know this, alumni know this, and coaches know this. You can look at the Top 25 and see who's going to the next level. The majority of next year's draft will come for these top 30 programs. I am a supporter of the service academies and the fine education that they provide, but there's no way that they are going to compete with the top programs that are truly Football Factories. Any top recruit with an inkling of going to the next level tries to get into those programs - Black or White. The discerner of talent and athleticism goes to the coaches that hand those scholarships out. I don't feel that there is a great conspiracy against the white athlete or a so called caste system. I do feel that coaching staffs are always looking for a way to win with the best athletes that they can get their hands on.

I hope this enlightens you
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Alright our local paper has a top 10 every week after friday night games are played. Usually 9 of those schools are dominately white programs with an occasional black athlete on 1 or 2 of the top 10 teams.


But here's what gets me... when topcollege programs recruit players from our state they don't even try and get any of the white players. Instead they go for the schools that are black that have a record of 1-7 or somewhere along those lines and don't even make it to the state playoffs.


What kinda B.S. is that?
 

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CountryBoy

This is exactly the same thing that happens in Minnesota
 

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voice said:
Minnesota has turned into a hotbed of white football players with Suburbs(white schools)blowing out inner city schools every year.

The Minnesota Athletic association even tries to tip the scales so an inner city school makes it to state, but they never do because their really aren't enough black schools to form their own sectionals and sub-state competition to guarantee a participant.

Every year, an all white school wins large school state championships. What happens next is a disgrace, recruiters come in and "cherry" pick the "great" black athletes from failed inner city schools and offer them scholarships.

If players are lucky, they will get scholarship offers from our local 1-AA schools like South Datoka State and North Dakota State. A few scholarships will get divided up into remaining D-II schools like Augustana(SD) and Minnesota-Duluth, Morehead State etc. Usually these teams win lower Division national championships every year, too.

I personally follow one conference and go to my local teams game every week. The conference is the lake conference. We have won the large school championship 5 of the last 9 years.

Their are loads of Division I prospects in these schools. The coaching is brilliant.

For example, our football coach starts them from Junior High with summer conditioning programs focussing on Plyometrics.

What disgusted me and motivated me to do this was a running back named Brylee Callendar, carried Lakeville to the state championship two years ago. This kid was 6'2" 220 and ran legitimate 4.4. He is in JC in California right now so he may get his chance but if he was black we all know the story.....

First player up...Jake Machacek, RB, Eastview High School







i was just bored and reading old posts here on CF and i stumble across Brylee's name. wow thats a blast from the past for me. i saw this kid play once against Fresno JC like 2 yrs ago, mayber three. i had heard he was some sort of minnesota highschool legend. i remember thinking he was a pretty good tb, and just as fast as any black tb i had seen of at the time. last year i found out he got a scholarship from Minnesota which was the school he originally wanted to go to but in the same year he got kicked off the team for breaking team rules. apparently he had a habit of getting in trouble, even in highschool. i wish he could of kept his nose clean. might have been a great one, one day. its hard enough for a prep white rb to get a ride to a D1 school, but its almost impossible for a JC white tb to get a shot.
 
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