Man Freezes to Death

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I know you got to pay your bills but g@ddamn!
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Someone needs to pay for this old mans death:

Man freezes to death indoors.
 

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I'm not one for welfare & government handouts, but this is a hell of a way to treat a WW2 veteran (of 93 years).
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DixieDestroyer said:
I'm not one for welfare & government handouts, but this is a hell of a way to treat a WW2 veteran (of 93 years).
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Exactly how I feel too. From the lack of response here and in the msm I guess its no big deal to most people.
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Menelik, it's a big deal. But when readers look at the thread title alone, they think the guy froze to death because of his own negligence due to binge drinking or something like that.

If you titled it, "elderly veteran left for dead in bitter cold," you'd probably get more responses.
 

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It's a sad story to be sure. Unfortunately in life you have to have some kind of network to help you through the rough times. Without family or close friends a man that age is at terrible risk. The article said he had no wife or kids but surely there was some other family somewhere.

It shouldn't be up to the govt to provide care and services to the elderly, it should be done by family. He had months of unpaid bills, someone should have been checking this for him if he was unable to do it. What would be the solution to situations such as this an "Elderly Protective Services Dept." like they have for children?
 

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this is a sad story, for sure.

also, i agree with jaxvid. the breakdown of the family unit has done immeasurable damage to America.
 

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Subliminal messages turning our young folks against extended family members have been in place for the last 40 years or so,it started as early as grade school,increased greatly in college years,and is backed up by the prostituted media,both electronic and print.


Perhaps this was a factor in the demise of this poor old man,these messages are getting stronger in this era,as we see Dads shown as boobs on T.V.everyday,with mom being in control of all family situations,many times the father figure is not shown,leading the inexperienced to believe that he is not needed.


The cultural marxists are after the grandkids now,as they offer up cartoon shows such as "fairly oddparents".
 

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LabMan said:
Subliminal messages turning our young folks against extended family members have been in place for the last 40 years or so,it started as early as grade school,increased greatly in college years,and is backed up by the prostituted media,both electronic and print.


Perhaps this was a factor in the demise of this poor old man,these messages are getting stronger in this era,as we see Dads shown as boobs on T.V.everyday,with mom being in control of all family situations,many times the father figure is not shown,leading the inexperienced to believe that he is not needed.


The cultural marxists are after the grandkids now,as they offer up cartoon shows such as "fairly oddparents".

Good analysis LabMan! The Zionist/cultural marxist agenda is indeed to undermine the family unit, traditional values & morals. The Globalist Elite leverage their controlled media outlets to unleash the propaganda. Nickelodeon is notorious for the endless propaganda....from Miscegenation (in their ads & shows) to pushing the Envirofascist "Green" BS. Of course, Nickelodeon is owned by Viacom (who also owns heathenistic filth outlet MTV)...chaired by rootless untermensch Sumner Rothstein (aka "Redstone").
 

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Agree with the programming of kids. Sometimes it fails. The movie Thelma and Louise was on the other day and my son caught a glimpse of it at the part where Louise sticks a gun in a highway patrolmans face and gets him to cry as they disarm him and put him in the trunk. He watched it and said "Yeah, like that would happen." I asked him why he thought that and he said "c'mon Dad he's a big strong guy and thy're wimpy girls."

Kids should know the difference between real life and fantasy. As entertainment becomes more fantasy orientated I think kids become even less programmed. For example all video games that feature hand to hand combat with choices of chararcters to assume will include slim, model pretty woman, fighting against heavily muscled men---as equals. Movies parrot this theme as well, the idea that a kick or punch from a 110 lb. woman packs enough power to KO a 300 lb. super muscled guy.

It's a joke, like Superman being able to fly. An adolescent kid who knows he is twice as strong as a girl the same age is not going to fall for it. They know it's BS.
 

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Sad story about this man, and I think that people should be willing to look in on them every day, especially when they know they have noone else. Just like "Gran Torino" its another sad commentary on the state of things in Amerika.
 
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Eh, CPS is as Satanic as it gets. The elderly equivalent would end up in euthanasia most likely.
 

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It turns out that Mr. Schur left behind almost a million dollars. His was a senseless and totally preventable death.
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jaxvid said:
Agree with the programming of kids. Sometimes it fails. The movie Thelma and Louise was on the other day and my son caught a glimpse of it at the part where Louise sticks a gun in a highway patrolmans face and gets him to cry as they disarm him and put him in the trunk. He watched it and said "Yeah, like that would happen." I asked him why he thought that and he said "c'mon Dad he's a big strong guy and thy're wimpy girls."

Kids should know the difference between real life and fantasy. As entertainment becomes more fantasy orientated I think kids become even less programmed. For example all video games that feature hand to hand combat with choices of chararcters to assume will include slim, model pretty woman, fighting against heavily muscled men---as equals. Movies parrot this theme as well, the idea that a kick or punch from a 110 lb. woman packs enough power to KO a 300 lb. super muscled guy.

It's a joke, like Superman being able to fly. An adolescent kid who knows he is twice as strong as a girl the same age is not going to fall for it. They know it's BS.

Jaxvid, your son made a very natural observation. I couldn't even sit through that entire movie. The tough grrl persona is propagandaized thoroughly on television. There's a current commercial being shown on ESPN for Tiger Schulmann's Karate. It's actually two commercials in one. The first part is some little kid hiya-ing; the second part is a montage of tough grrls showing us what strong, mannish, dykish dames they are, fronted by what looks like an Asian-Hispanic-Black hybrid with a mug shot for a close-up. In one part of this clip, for maybe a nanosecond, they show one of the girl's fingernails; all nicely polished. I take it that's a reminder that they're feminine (hetero) underneath that machisma exterior. Just another "you've seen it once, you've seen it all" for the books.
 

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With no family or friends to keep an eye on him, he was vulnerable. Nobody else cared. Anyone in contact with people that old living alone should think something is wrong when bills were not paid for months. He probably had the money but just could not or did not get out to pay. The twits at the utility company should have come knocking after three months of unpaid bills. If the twits had any compassion at all they would have confirmed that the house was vacant before shutting off the hydro. Of course that would be smart and that is too much to ask for these days.

As for anyone worrying about the poor utility company getting paid, spare us the whine and drink it yourself. The company could have continued to supply electricity to the dwelling -upon confirmation of its occupancy- and liened the bill to the property taxes or the title. Either way they would have been paid with expenses and interest. But no, in the interest of protecting cash flow they cut off the power.

No, the utility is run by a bunch of pigs. And get this straight: utilities are not private companies like consumer product manufacturers. Utilities use public land, and lease public property to distribute energy. Most of what utilities use to distribute energy is built on public dollars. They are, in fact, not really "private" corporations. Deliquency is not that big of a problem. Most people pay their bills. We simply cannot allow anyone to freeze in the dark.Edited by: Maple Leaf
 

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Maple Leaf said:
As for anyone worrying about the poor utility company getting paid, spare us the whine and drink it yourself. The company could have continued to supply electricity to the dwelling -upon confirmation of its occupancy- and liened the bill to the property taxes or the title. Either way they would have been paid with expenses and interest. But no, in the interest of protecting cash flow they cut off the power.
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If people don't pay bills the cost is passed down to other consumers. Adding it to the property is no help, most property where people don't pay bills is either rented or ends up forclosed. If the utilities are really just public companies then they should ensure that people pay for their services.

In this particular case the guy had money but no one was there to see that he paid it. The news story had some quotes from a nephew about how cruel the electric company was, how about how cruel it was for a nephew to let an aged uncle waste away without help from family?

I feel sorry for the guy but I don't want to pay (through my taxes, or utilities) the expenses that are owed by someone else. That's socialism.
 

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I agree with you 100% jaxvid.
 
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