Magomed Abdusalamov.

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Abdu vs. Jameel McCline on the Vitali-Charr undercard in Moscow on Sep 8.
McCline must be dead broke if he signed to fight this match. This should be either a spectacular ko or McCline refusing to come out of his corner after taking a beating for a few rounds.
 

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Here comes KO #16 in a row! It would be awesome if he could do it in round one or two.
 

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I'm not the kind of guy who says I told you so, but I told you so.

Scanning Youtube to see if today's fight is up yet (guess not) I came across one I didn't know about - Abdu fought David Price in the amateurs. Price won on points, 6-0 I think it was.
 

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I like Abdu and I've been following him, but that was a strange punch that KO'd McCline. Was it legit?
 
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I like Abdu and I've been following him, but that was a strange punch that KO'd McCline. Was it legit?

Yes, I do think it was legit, the punch occurs in an angle that is blinded by the camera, so you dont get to see it fully. I believe it was a short hook that connected to the temple of McCline's head that knocked him down for the count.

I also feel the accumulation of punches before that contributed to the knockdown. But yes, a final, conclusive punch did land. I watched youtube a couple times just to make sure.

Odd KO, but a KO nonetheless.

Overall, not too impressed with Magomed here though. On the one hand, he survived a "gut check" and showed good heart, fighter's mentality which is important, but he also showed he can be dropped, can be hit, lack of defense.

Magomed is 100% offensive minded fighter and that makes for great KO's, great fights, but not usually championship level fighters!

Klitschko would destroy him... Klitschko hits just as hard and importantly has the defense to back it up. Magomed has good offense, but easy to hit, no defense.

Cant make it to the championship level without any defense.
 

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Belated response: good observations, BoxSpec.

Abdu fights a 21-1 Puerto Rican, Victor Baseball (Bisbal), a week from tomorrow, March 8th, Friday.
 

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Yes, I do think it was legit, the punch occurs in an angle that is blinded by the camera, so you dont get to see it fully. I believe it was a short hook that connected to the temple of McCline's head that knocked him down for the count.

I also feel the accumulation of punches before that contributed to the knockdown. But yes, a final, conclusive punch did land. I watched youtube a couple times just to make sure.

Odd KO, but a KO nonetheless.

Overall, not too impressed with Magomed here though. On the one hand, he survived a "gut check" and showed good heart, fighter's mentality which is important, but he also showed he can be dropped, can be hit, lack of defense.

Magomed is 100% offensive minded fighter and that makes for great KO's, great fights, but not usually championship level fighters!

Klitschko would destroy him... Klitschko hits just as hard and importantly has the defense to back it up. Magomed has good offense, but easy to hit, no defense.

Cant make it to the championship level without any defense.[/QUO I agree guys with this style make a fan friendly style and usually peak out as a winning ESPN fighter but a showcase type fight for an HBO level fighter. Ie Bradley vs Prodnokov. But occasionally this level of fighter bites a favorite in the ass so to speak.
 
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I know he hits very hard but His defense is non existent. It looks like he doesn't even try to avoid shots. He got the knockout, but I really think he needs some conditioning and defense work. On the positive side, he did fight and knockout a journeyman fighter in Bisbal who has decent hands.
 

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(from fightnews.com)

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/results-from-atlantic-city-7-176771


Unbeaten heavyweight terror Magomed Abdusalamov (17-0, 17 KOs) scored a fifth round KO over former Puerto Rican Olympian Victor Bisbal (21-2, 15 KOs). Game effort by Bisbal in extending Abdusalamov to round five, but ultimately the unbeaten Russian was too strong and battered Bisbal to the canvas at 1:12 if the fifth round.


Fight video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3dM5IfoxpeY
 

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Uncle Teddy was predicting that Magomed was on route to his first loss the minute he turned pro.....:thumbdown: He was all but cheering the man boobed Mulatto PR fighter until it was obvious that the Russian was going to ko him. I agree maybe he needs a new training team. Garcia is a good trainer but he hasn't taught Magomed one lick of defense. If he was in their with a hard puncher he might have been in trouble in this bout. I think Kevin Rooney could be a good trainer just because of his ability to train aggressive pressure fighters.
 

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Uncle Teddy was predicting that Magomed was on route to his first loss the minute he turned pro.....:thumbdown: He was all but cheering the man boobed Mulatto PR fighter until it was obvious that the Russian was going to ko him.
I watched it live on a Russia 2 stream instead of one of the ESPN2 streams because I didn't want to hear Teddy's negative comments about Abdusalamov.

I posted the Russian video above, here's the ESPN version here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xy2fy6_magomed-abdusalamov-vs-victor-bisbal_sport#.UTre6xyG2t9

Magomed has world-class power and is a very good finisher, but he was getting hit too easily tonight. He'd have little chance against a strong puncher like Wladimir Klitschko.
 

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Not only was he getting hit too easily but he was using up way too much energy throwing wild punches.
 

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My, mY, Mago! Such a hard puncher and solid chin! He really doesn't care very much if he gets hit, he doesn't believe his opponents can last in firefights with him. And most opponents can't.

Full credit to Brisbal for trying as much as he could and forcing Mago to fight to win. Brisbal wasn't in there to lie down. Boy he's going to feel that beating for a week!

Mago needs to add two skills to his game to become a top five heavyweight: a long range, quick jab and better footwork. Right now he's a hooker with lumberjack's feet. He's like George Foreman but with more power and a poorer jab.

Will he learn these two skills? Hmm? I doubt it. The people he trusts don't want to lose his trust and are probably yes-men instead of telling him the truth. Forget the Klitschkos, right now he couldn't beat Pulev and probably other mobile, skilled, big men.
 

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My, mY, Mago! Such a hard puncher and solid chin! He really doesn't care very much if he gets hit, he doesn't believe his opponents can last in firefights with him. And most opponents can't.

Full credit to Brisbal for trying as much as he could and forcing Mago to fight to win. Brisbal wasn't in there to lie down. Boy he's going to feel that beating for a week!

Mago needs to add two skills to his game to become a top five heavyweight: a long range, quick jab and better footwork. Right now he's a hooker with lumberjack's feet. He's like George Foreman but with more power and a poorer jab.

Will he learn these two skills? Hmm? I doubt it. The people he trusts don't want to lose his trust and are probably yes-men instead of telling him the truth. Forget the Klitschkos, right now he couldn't beat Pulev and probably other mobile, skilled, big men.
Sultan Ibragimov said after the fight that Abdusalamov needs to improve with more pro experience before fighting Wladimir Klitschko (Sultan and Magomed are both Caucasian Avars).
 

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Sultan Ibragimov said after the fight that Abdusalamov needs to improve with more pro experience before fighting Wladimir Klitschko (Sultan and Magomed are both Caucasian Avars).

I liked watching Ibragimov. He was a fast, slick, south paw. I don't know who trained him in the U.S.A. (do you?), but his dedication to progressive skill enhancement showed in his pro career. Mago could learn from him.
 

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Sultan Ibragimov said after the fight that Abdusalamov needs to improve with more pro experience before fighting Wladimir Klitschko ...


Well, that's the understatement of the year!

I was disappointed to see Randy Neuman still refereeing, but surprised that he wasn't behaving like the intrusive and incompetent and biased and loud mouthed a-hole he always was when he was dogging Andrew G.

Actually I'm thinking somewhat less of Abdu the more I see of him. I relate to him though. He reminds me of me when I was doing my boxing thing except he's a couple of inches taller and I hit harder. Similar - ha ha - defenses. He even has the same hair do I have when I shave my head. Maybe we go to the same barber. I am impressed with his straight punches, but not with his hooks.
 

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My, mY, Mago! Such a hard puncher and solid chin! He really doesn't care very much if he gets hit, he doesn't believe his opponents can last in firefights with him. And most opponents can't.

Full credit to Brisbal for trying as much as he could and forcing Mago to fight to win. Brisbal wasn't in there to lie down. Boy he's going to feel that beating for a week!

Mago needs to add two skills to his game to become a top five heavyweight: a long range, quick jab and better footwork. Right now he's a hooker with lumberjack's feet. He's like George Foreman but with more power and a poorer jab.

Will he learn these two skills? Hmm? I doubt it. The people he trusts don't want to lose his trust and are probably yes-men instead of telling him the truth. Forget the Klitschkos, right now he couldn't beat Pulev and probably other mobile, skilled, big men.

Nope, Mister Baseball came to fight. I was sort of surprised about that too. I thought he was just set up to be a punching bag and lose, but no he was not. In fact I thought he might win for a while. I thought that Abdu might tire himself out with those roundhouse punches he was missing with and Baseball was throwing good combos. Abdu has the knack of putting his whole body weight behind his punches. Marciano was master of that. Tiring though when you miss. His opponents have been pretty carefully picked so far, though certainly not from the bottom of the barrel.
 

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from fightnews:

Abdusalamov returns April 27

Undefeated heavyweight powerhouse Magomed “Mago” Abdusalamov (17-0, 17 KOs) will defend his WBC-USNBC belt against Argentina’s Sebastian Ceballos (33-7-2, 25 KOs) on April 27 at Club Atletico Velez Sarsfield in Buenos Aires, Argentina, as part of the Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez (50-2-2, 28 KOs) vs. Martin Murray (25-0-1, 11 KOs) WBC world middleweight championship undercard.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/abdusalamov-returns-april-27-177427
 
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I finally just saw the Abdusalamov/Bisbal fight this afternoon after coming home from work. The fight was originally shown here in Toronto at 1AM local time Friday Night/ Saturday Morning, and I was very tired that day and just couldn't stay awake! So Ive finally watched it today on a re-airing.

Abdusalamov looked his typical self in the fight; slow starter who needs a couple rounds to get going, stalking hard punching guy, can take a punch, and can KO his opponent when he gets in trouble with good finishing skills. Victor Bisbal deserves credit for giving a great effort, he took some huge punches in round 4 and 5 and kept standing, that was very gutsy of him.

- The Positives of Abdu: Hits hard and can knock anyone out, keeps stalking and moving forward that kind of pressure causes a lot of guys to collapse, has good ring intelligence that comes from a developed amateur background.

- The Drawbacks of Abdu: A bit slow on his feet I find could potentially be out-pointed by a faster moving boxer (think someone with speed of movement like Wlad Klitschko, Tyson Fury, or the retired Sultan Ibragimov), gets hit a bit too much.

Wladimir Klitschko VS Abdu would be a very interesting fight, Abdu would constantly keep stalking and moving forward, and Wlad has that enormous jab and powerful right hand which would do damage. On the one hand I could see Wlad being cautious and jabbing and on the other hand I could see Wlad standing his ground and landing his right hand at will due to superior speed and technique. That right hand is enormous and has knocked out many guys (Brock, Byrd, Mormeck, Chagaev, Thompson), and its also made guys literally quit (Chagaev). Abdu's lack of defense and constantly coming forward I think would cause him to take too many right hands from Wlad. It would be very interesting and I would probably like Wlad by decision or late round stoppage. In some ways I think the fight would be similar to his second fight with Sam Peter, or even the Chagaev fight, where you had pressure fighters being knocked out by Wlad.

I'd love to see Abdu fight any of the following guys:

Mariusz Wach (two tough guys would each move forward at each other, I'd say Abdu hits harder, I like Abdu by KO in this one)

Tyson Fury (Tyson is faster and would outthrow Abdu, Tyson is also very tough and takes just as good as he gets, I like Fury by Decision in this one)

David Haye (Haye hits hard and is faster than Abdu, but Abdu hits just as hard and I think his intelligent pressure would bother Haye, Haye was knocked out in the pro's exactly from a pressure fighter Carl Thompson 50-50 fight)

Dereck Chisora (Chisora is tough and usually takes a good shot I'll give him that, but I think Abdu is tougher and will hit him as hard as anyone he's faced! Abdu by KO)

Chris Arreola (Tough fight, would be an all action brawl, Arreola is a big puncher himself and doesn't quit, I'd call it 50-50 fight)

Malik Scott (Scott is a decent boxer and for the most part was able to negate Glazkov's offense, but in my opinion, Abdu is more rough and physical than Glazkov so I don't think Scott will get away with that I like Abdu by KO, Scott might be able to maneuver in the first few rounds but Mago would close that distance and Scott won't be able to keep him off)

Alex Povetkin (Povetkin is a strange case, Ive seen him looking amazing in fights like when he knocked out Negroes Chris Byrd or Cedric Boswell, but Ive also seen him look "off" and "flat" in some fights such as the recent fight with Marco Huck, Abdu hits very hard and will keep coming, ultimately, I do think Povetkin would draw on his amateur background, offensive skills, and be able to hold his ground, Povetkin by Decision)

Another great fight for Abdu would have been fighting say a 2003-2009 version of Vitali Klitschko, that would have been an amazing brawl and no doubt Vitali would have won by TKO, but it would have been a great fight I think!


Very cool and great to see him returning on an HBO undercard! Also great to see him staying active!
 
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