Any thoughts about who really killed Kennedy on the 45th anniversary of his death?
The speech that got Kennedy killed?
The speech that got Kennedy killed?
Kennedy Assassination
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Well, E. Howard Hunt's son, Saint John Hunt, interviewed and recorded his father on his deathbed. (E. Howard Hunt was a CIA man.) This deathbed interview was predictably ignored by the MSM; but was played regularly on one of those late night shows--coast to coast, or Art Bell. He claims that LBJ was the prime mover and that Cord Meyer of the CIA headed the team which organized the killing. And yes, according to this interview, they made use of a foreign assassination Specialist.
I've always felt Johnson was behind it. He was an evil bastard and had all the connections. It happened in his home state where he wielded incredible power and involved the CIA over which he had control. It was the only way a guy his age would ever be President anyway. Plus he's rarely mentioned in conspiracy theories even though he should be the prime suspect so that makes me even more suspicious.
screamingeagle
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Castro ordered the murder. He and Kennedy hated each other in a passion that defies understanding. Whether Oswald acted along or not, I do not know.
Well anybody that believes that Jack Ruby (Jacob Rubenstein) the strip club owner and mobster killed Oswald out of love for his fallen President is drinking the Kool Aid. Rubenstein died awaiting trial - what a surprise. The Ruby story alone means that it was bigger than Oswald.
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Gentlemen,
It's my humble opinion that Kennedy was killed because he was going to withdraw the U.S. advisers from Vietnam and the powers that be were determined to have their war and no mere President was going to stop them. So they had Kennedy killed and had the bum, Johnson waiting in the wings for just such an eventuality. Seems reasonable to me.
Tom Iron...
It's my humble opinion that Kennedy was killed because he was going to withdraw the U.S. advisers from Vietnam and the powers that be were determined to have their war and no mere President was going to stop them. So they had Kennedy killed and had the bum, Johnson waiting in the wings for just such an eventuality. Seems reasonable to me.
Tom Iron...
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Ruby died waiting for a second trial after he successfully appealed his conviction and death sentence.
He was convicted in his first trial in 1964 for killing Oswald Ruby died before a date for his new trial had been set.
Guys, the evidence points overwhelmingly to Oswald. All these people who have made money off conspiracy theories are half-baked hucksters.
He was convicted in his first trial in 1964 for killing Oswald Ruby died before a date for his new trial had been set.
Guys, the evidence points overwhelmingly to Oswald. All these people who have made money off conspiracy theories are half-baked hucksters.
Yah, Jack Ruby's love of country and President made him kill Oswald. A true American patriot. LOL
The Bigger the lie the harder it is for a regular human to disbelieve. Even if we see the tragedy with our own eyes. Our owned government and media will have a logical explanation so that we can go on with our lives without disturbing thoughts. From huge towers tumbling from small fires (7) to Presidents shot > their accused assasins shot on TV for all to see by a known underground figure> and that figure dying in prison. I'll just use common sense and what is quite obvious to me.
The Bigger the lie the harder it is for a regular human to disbelieve. Even if we see the tragedy with our own eyes. Our owned government and media will have a logical explanation so that we can go on with our lives without disturbing thoughts. From huge towers tumbling from small fires (7) to Presidents shot > their accused assasins shot on TV for all to see by a known underground figure> and that figure dying in prison. I'll just use common sense and what is quite obvious to me.
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Menelik said:
Does everyone know who JFK was referring to in that speech?
I know, and I'm sure Bart knows. What about everybody else?
I've followed politics closely for a long time and have never heard of this speech. I wonder if it's legit. The voice sounds like it could be an actor. Maybe bigunreal or someone knows for sure.
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Yeah, Don, where's the house conspiracy theorist when you need him?
JK
Seriously, I can't play the clip where I'm at, so I have no idea. bigunreal would probably be THE MAN to ask. Some of big's statements used to seem far out to me, but for a while now he has been hitting the nail on the head. big unreal is a great person to have at CF. Edited by: Colonel_Reb
Seriously, I can't play the clip where I'm at, so I have no idea. bigunreal would probably be THE MAN to ask. Some of big's statements used to seem far out to me, but for a while now he has been hitting the nail on the head. big unreal is a great person to have at CF. Edited by: Colonel_Reb
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Menelik said:
Some clues:
- The creators of the caste system in sports.
- The owners/controllers of most of the media.
- Their henchmen have a slogan "by way of deception, thou shalt do war"
- Often deal with their enemies by assassination.
- Billy Graham once spoke of a "stranglehold" they were gaining on America.
- George Bush Sr. once got in trouble for saying they are a "considerable political force" in the US.
- JFK's father spoke out against them years before.
- Jack Ruby was one of them.
- They set up the events of 911, probably using Muslim patsies, to turn feelings against Muslims so the US would fight their wars for them.
It wasn't any "illuminati", no papal conspiracy, no freemasons, no Italian mafia. There was no direct CIA involvement, except they had infiltrated the CIA. It wasn't the communists, although they were the creators of Marxist-Leninism. Lyndon Johnson had nothing to do with it, but I have a feeling he figured out who it was, but was afraid to say anything...
It was a criminal organization - by far the richest, biggest and most powerful in the world. That's who JFK was speaking of in that speech, and they were behind his assassination.
To me it's obvious.
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I'm not sure of the exact resources utilized (I'm sure Oswald was a patsy), but no doubt the Globalist Elite were behind it. JFK was preparing to sign Exec Order 11110 to remove the private Fed's money issuance power & hence, dared to cross the Central Banking Cartel...
JFK and Exec Order 11110
JFK and Exec Order 11110
This is a subject I know far too much about....
I became immersed in the Kennedy assassination as a teenager. I joined Mark Lane's Citizens Committe Of Inquiry and was thrilled to meet him and have an extended conversation with him at his office. I won't go into details with that very long story, but bottom line is that Lane had been speaking to then popular comedian Freddie Prinze on the phone that day, and told me he was obsessed with the JFK assassination and when he "killed himself" a few months later, I wasn't surprised. A short time later, one of the TV networks cranked out one of those pathetic tragic dramas about his last days, and despite the fact his wife was a consultant, absolutely no mention was made of the JFK assassination, which was taking up all his time in his final days. But enough about my personal connection with this.
The clip of JFK talking is absolutely real. It's one of the most remarkable speeches ever made by any U.S. politician, let alone any president. We can guess about who he's referring to (the usual suspects), but even if he meant it as a generic broadside against censorship, and in favor of an open society, it took a lot of courage and goes to the heart of why I believe he was the last decent president we had. That, along with his American University "peace" speech, are two of the greatest speeches in American history, imho.
It would take up far too much cyber space on this forum to argue why there was a conspiracy to kill JFK. The important point to realize is that the murder of a sitting U.S. president was not investigated at the time. Not by the Dallas police. Not by the FBI. Certainly not the by Warren Commission. Years later, when young idealists like myself were lobbying Congress and the media to re-open the investigation, the result of our efforts, the House Assassinations Committee, also didn't conduct a real investigation. The one and only absolute thing I know, after researching this case for over 30 years, is that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't assassinate JFK. He was involved, obviously, but almost certainly as an unwitting undercover agent for some arm of the government, who was purposefully set up as a patsy. We can prove with certainty that the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, as well as high government officials such as J. Edgar Hoover, McGeorge Bundy and Nick Katzenbach, all participated in a coverup. Therefore, the logical assumption would be that these same forces were in on the conspiracy, if not direct conspirators themselves.
The mainstream press has refused to tell the truth about this monstrous crime since the moment Lee Harvey Oswald was gunned down by low level mobster Jack Ruby.
It's sad to see so many people who aren't acquainted with the subject fall for the lies and dishonesty behind recent television specials like "Beyond Conspiracy" and the latest, "Inside The Target Car," or Warren Report rehashes like "Case Closed" or Bugliosi's "Reclaiming History." The original band of citizen critics like Mark Lane proved that the official lone assassin theory was impossible some 40 years ago. Their work still stands, and those interested in the subject should read those early books on the subject.
I have conducted enough research on this case to write a book on it myself. Anyone truly interested in any aspect of the Kennedy assassination can feel free to question me by personal message or here on the forum.
I became immersed in the Kennedy assassination as a teenager. I joined Mark Lane's Citizens Committe Of Inquiry and was thrilled to meet him and have an extended conversation with him at his office. I won't go into details with that very long story, but bottom line is that Lane had been speaking to then popular comedian Freddie Prinze on the phone that day, and told me he was obsessed with the JFK assassination and when he "killed himself" a few months later, I wasn't surprised. A short time later, one of the TV networks cranked out one of those pathetic tragic dramas about his last days, and despite the fact his wife was a consultant, absolutely no mention was made of the JFK assassination, which was taking up all his time in his final days. But enough about my personal connection with this.
The clip of JFK talking is absolutely real. It's one of the most remarkable speeches ever made by any U.S. politician, let alone any president. We can guess about who he's referring to (the usual suspects), but even if he meant it as a generic broadside against censorship, and in favor of an open society, it took a lot of courage and goes to the heart of why I believe he was the last decent president we had. That, along with his American University "peace" speech, are two of the greatest speeches in American history, imho.
It would take up far too much cyber space on this forum to argue why there was a conspiracy to kill JFK. The important point to realize is that the murder of a sitting U.S. president was not investigated at the time. Not by the Dallas police. Not by the FBI. Certainly not the by Warren Commission. Years later, when young idealists like myself were lobbying Congress and the media to re-open the investigation, the result of our efforts, the House Assassinations Committee, also didn't conduct a real investigation. The one and only absolute thing I know, after researching this case for over 30 years, is that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't assassinate JFK. He was involved, obviously, but almost certainly as an unwitting undercover agent for some arm of the government, who was purposefully set up as a patsy. We can prove with certainty that the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, as well as high government officials such as J. Edgar Hoover, McGeorge Bundy and Nick Katzenbach, all participated in a coverup. Therefore, the logical assumption would be that these same forces were in on the conspiracy, if not direct conspirators themselves.
The mainstream press has refused to tell the truth about this monstrous crime since the moment Lee Harvey Oswald was gunned down by low level mobster Jack Ruby.
It's sad to see so many people who aren't acquainted with the subject fall for the lies and dishonesty behind recent television specials like "Beyond Conspiracy" and the latest, "Inside The Target Car," or Warren Report rehashes like "Case Closed" or Bugliosi's "Reclaiming History." The original band of citizen critics like Mark Lane proved that the official lone assassin theory was impossible some 40 years ago. Their work still stands, and those interested in the subject should read those early books on the subject.
I have conducted enough research on this case to write a book on it myself. Anyone truly interested in any aspect of the Kennedy assassination can feel free to question me by personal message or here on the forum.
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There are just too many strange things involved in that event for it not to be a cover-up. I do hope we find out the truth one day.
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Colonel_Reb said:
The truth is all revealed in the book Final Judgement by Michael Collins Piper.
However, I think the book has been banned in the US.
The assassination of JFK marked the end of the "1950s" and the beginning of the "1960s" and permanent Cultural Marxist revolution, which has always been imposed and financed from the top down to the many millions of easily led patsies who think they are cool and sophisticated by "rebelling" against that which is presented as "uncool."
About six weeks after Kennedy's death, the country was snapped out of its collective mourning by the appearance of The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show in January of 1964. This was a landmark event, marking the beginning of the mainstreaming of the leftwing counterculture with its accompanying staples of rock music, long hair on boys, widespread drug usage, pre-marital sex, et. al. The Beatles of 1964 seem very tame now, but they were radical then with their "moptops"and the type of music they played.They were mobbed everywhere by screaming and fainting girls, probably the last time white females were encouraged to unabashedly hero-worship white males.
From those early days evolved everything we have today -- the demonically violent fare in movies and TV, the even more demonic porn industry (now in large part mainstreamed, especially its value system), the rejection and mocking of everything pure and wholesome, the factionalizing of society by value and belief system and its dumbing down, the homosexualization of mass culture, the methodical sowing of alienation between white men and women, the never-for-an-instant-relenting demonization of white men and the encouraging of minorities to rob, beat and kill whites, and on and on.
There was a coup of some kind that took place on that fateful day in 1963. At the time many considered John F. Kennedy a dangerous liberal, but in retrospect he seems to have been sincere in preventing America from being taken over by the forces that have succeeded in gnawing out its vitals from within.Edited by: Don Wassall
About six weeks after Kennedy's death, the country was snapped out of its collective mourning by the appearance of The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show in January of 1964. This was a landmark event, marking the beginning of the mainstreaming of the leftwing counterculture with its accompanying staples of rock music, long hair on boys, widespread drug usage, pre-marital sex, et. al. The Beatles of 1964 seem very tame now, but they were radical then with their "moptops"and the type of music they played.They were mobbed everywhere by screaming and fainting girls, probably the last time white females were encouraged to unabashedly hero-worship white males.
From those early days evolved everything we have today -- the demonically violent fare in movies and TV, the even more demonic porn industry (now in large part mainstreamed, especially its value system), the rejection and mocking of everything pure and wholesome, the factionalizing of society by value and belief system and its dumbing down, the homosexualization of mass culture, the methodical sowing of alienation between white men and women, the never-for-an-instant-relenting demonization of white men and the encouraging of minorities to rob, beat and kill whites, and on and on.
There was a coup of some kind that took place on that fateful day in 1963. At the time many considered John F. Kennedy a dangerous liberal, but in retrospect he seems to have been sincere in preventing America from being taken over by the forces that have succeeded in gnawing out its vitals from within.Edited by: Don Wassall
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The JFK assassination was indeed the turning point, Don.
They seemed to become bolder after that, perhaps feeling if they could get away with assassinating the President of the US, they could get away with almost anything.
They seemed to become bolder after that, perhaps feeling if they could get away with assassinating the President of the US, they could get away with almost anything.
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It has been clearly shown that one could easily enter the nearby drainage gutter through the sidewalk hatch, and there was even room for two. There was a clear shot, and easy exit route along a small waterway. Some mafia guy who had been in prison for years came out and said that there was an assassin in the gutter, and he was sitting next to him while he did it.
I think it has much to do with organized crime, and the Italian/Irish rivalry since the late 19th century. All types of other secret power organizations were probably involved. Many had interests, from the WASP establishment that had previously dominated American politics (Masons and other secret societies), to the 20th century immigrant and minority crime ethnicities that were against the Irish for a good half century or more (notably Italians, Jews, and Blacks), and last but not least, Russians and their communist allies.
It all fit too neatly into the following Civil Rights movements, and the general baby boomer moral collapse of the country. Oswald, like Booth before him, was just a front man to a much deeper plot of warring and cooperative secret societies.
Edited by: FieldThrower
I think it has much to do with organized crime, and the Italian/Irish rivalry since the late 19th century. All types of other secret power organizations were probably involved. Many had interests, from the WASP establishment that had previously dominated American politics (Masons and other secret societies), to the 20th century immigrant and minority crime ethnicities that were against the Irish for a good half century or more (notably Italians, Jews, and Blacks), and last but not least, Russians and their communist allies.
It all fit too neatly into the following Civil Rights movements, and the general baby boomer moral collapse of the country. Oswald, like Booth before him, was just a front man to a much deeper plot of warring and cooperative secret societies.
Edited by: FieldThrower
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Don Wassall said:
I'd definitely take Kennedy over anyone that came after him. Marilyn Monroe scandals and all. At least he was brave enough to speak out against NWO, secret societies, and general treachery in the country.