Israel - Hamas conflict

Leonardfan said:
Oh man even Alex Jones is acknowledging the root cause. It does seem that alot of people are finally waking up to the disproportionate amount of Jewish influence in Western countries and positions of power.


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Doesn’t Alex Jones know that a vast vast majority of bolsheviks were jews? That it was a jew- genrikh yagoda who was in charge of the persecution, torture and death of millions of russian christians under lenin and stalin. Guess not but at least he’s starting to wake up a little bit
 
jphoss said:
Doesn’t Alex Jones know that a vast vast majority of bolsheviks were jews? That it was a jew- genrikh yagoda who was in charge of the persecution, torture and death of millions of russian christians under lenin and stalin. Guess not but at least he’s starting to wake up a little bit
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It's called controlled opposition. Alex Jones is another plant and he has always known. He supports the small hat guys. I've always said though that there are so many groups and secret societies that take part. It's not just the bagels. Destruction world wide is coming in
my honest opinion. It's better to stay out of it as look what happened to the J6 People. Don't choose a side and stay out of the way if
possible. Prepare yourselves and your families as best as you can and try to ride out the storm.
 
Israel just a bombed a hospital killing over 500 people. They’ve killed 3000 people, almost half of them children, in 10 days.



 
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white lightning said:
It's called controlled opposition. Alex Jones is another plant and he has always known. He supports the small hat guys. I've always said though that there are so many groups and secret societies that take part. It's not just the bagels. Destruction world wide is coming in
my honest opinion. It's better to stay out of it as look what happened to the J6 People. Don't choose a side and stay out of the way if
possible. Prepare yourselves and your families as best as you can and try to ride out the storm.
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What someone "knows" and how they decide to go about presenting things in a way to reach many people are two different things. One can be like the anonymous internet Nazis who can only rant about Jews and build a following of at least five or six other anonymous Nazis, or one can refer to the globalists and communists and the Great Reset and Great Replacement without fixating solely on Jews and build an audience of five or six million, as Alex Jones has. Jones has served his "controllers" so well that he's facing a billion dollar judgment and bankruptcy.

Anyone who is successful to any degree can count on being called "controlled opposition," as Tucker Carlson also was here. Easy to do from a keyboard, a lot harder to back up with evidence. And speaking of "controlled opposition," how about all these unknown guys constantly predicting imminent apocalypse, whose fear porn videos you find on Bitchute and Odyssey and regularly post here? A lot of them look exactly like the obvious feds seen at nationalist rallies and events like J6. But I guess they're all true blue because they put things in the most extreme terms.

At any rate, diverting the thread to attack Alex Jones is going off topic (again), so let's get this one focused on what it's supposed to be focused on.
 
Don Wassall said:
What someone "knows" and how they decide to go about presenting things in a way to reach many people are two different things. One can be like the anonymous internet Nazis who can only rant about Jews and build a following of at least five or six other anonymous Nazis, or one can refer to the globalists and communists and the Great Reset and Great Replacement without fixating solely on Jews and build an audience of five or six million, as Alex Jones has. Jones has served his "controllers" so well that he's facing a billion dollar judgment and bankruptcy.

Anyone who is successful to any degree can count on being called "controlled opposition," as Tucker Carlson also was here. Easy to do from a keyboard, a lot harder to back up with evidence. And speaking of "controlled opposition," how about all these unknown guys constantly predicting imminent apocalypse, whose fear porn videos you find on Bitchute and Odyssey and regularly post here? A lot of them look exactly like the obvious feds seen at nationalist rallies and events like J6. But I guess they're all true blue because they put things in the most extreme terms.

At any rate, diverting the thread to attack Alex Jones is going off topic (again), so let's get this one focused on what it's supposed to be focused on.
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Very quickly i've seen Mr Jones dancing with all of them and laughing away. Bill Cooper was taken care of because in my opinion he was
really warning humanity. Other guys have a free pass and that trial was just for show in my opinion. I didn't bring up Jones but I agree to
get it back on track. I always say don't just blame any one country or group as there are good and bad of every country or group. Even in the holy land they are divided just as much as here in this country. I'm not a nazi but I know our history has been distorted. I don't take a side on this war as any war is bad. I pray for innocent people on both sides.

One last comment on Jones. He helped wake many people up so I give him credit. Most guys will give you some truth mixed in with other lies to keep the people guessing. Alex Jones has done more good than bad by waking up humanity around the globe & for that he deserves
some credit and praise.
 
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This all seems so tragic and yet I admit that I:
1. Can’t see anything that I can do to change it so I’m pretty much ignoring it
2. Don’t have any idea what is really happening there ( though I suspect the Israeli military is actually doing a lot of what’s being reported I just don’t trust much reported news of any kind anymore)

A few years ago I would have probably reflexively sided w Israel given they are a democratic government.

Now I have pretty grave misgivings about democracy and certainly theirs.

The only encouraging thing in all of this is that it doesn’t appear to me like people are jumping on the Israel blinders bandwagon quite so rapidly as in the past.
 
A quick story to put Evangelicals massive support for Israel in perspective. My childhood pastor took one trip to Israel. I saw him in a mall after he just got back and asked him about the trip. I was 18 and surpised to find out that it was a horrible trip. He was spat on and harassed He was the kind of minister that always wore a collar. He had to take his collar off and his cross necklace and any sign of that he was a Christian as he walked around Israel or he was harassed, spat on, and even assaulted. Pew research polls show that American Jews view White Evangelicals as their most disliked group -even ranking them below Muslims. While American Evangelicals view Jews as their most favored group. Now just about any church you walk into and listen to the sermon has something in it about praising the chosen people. It's quite a difference from the New Testament and Jeus first morality message I remember growing up. I didnt' attend much church as a young adult but quickly picked up on the stark difference in what was being taught in sermons when I started attending again in my middle age. BTW, the focus of sermons of the big 503C churches are sent through the mail - not word for word but the message is printed up and the preachers preach. I now teach my kids at home our true Christian religion which was always Christian identity - after all why did we fight for the crusades if we didn't believe we were the chosen?
 
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Kaptain said:
A quick story to put Evangelicals massive support for Israel in perspective. My childhood pastor took one trip to Israel. I saw him in a mall after he just got back and asked him about the trip. I was 18 and surpised to find out that it was a horrible trip. He was spat on and harassed He was the kind of minister that always wore a collar. He had to take his collar off and his cross necklace and any sign of that he was a Christian as he walked around Israel or he was harassed, spat on, and even assaulted. Pew research polls show that American Jews view White Evangelicals as their most disliked group -even ranking them below Muslims. While American Evangelicals view Jews as their most favored group. Now just about any church you walk into and listen to the sermon has something in it about praising the chosen people. It's quite a difference from the New Testament and Jeus first morality message I remember growing. I didnt' attend much church as a young adult but quickly picked up on the stark difference in what was being taught in sermons when I started attending again in middle age. BTW, the focus of sermons of the big 503C churches are sent through the mail - not word for word but the message is printed up and the preachers preach. I now teach my kids at home our true Christian religion which was always Christian identity - after all why did we fight for the crusades if we didn't believe we were the chosen?
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I love what you said Kaptain. Every word of it is true. All of the religions have been hijacked. I'm been to Sunday School and Church on and
off for my whole life. It wasn't until the last 3 or 4 years when I started studying the Bible 7 days a week that my faith grew. The more my faith grew with the Holy Spirit guiding me the more I saw the fake apostate church's pushing the lies including the vax. Home Schooling your kids is great as well as Home Bible Study. Any of the Audio Bible Apps are also great.

Back to this war. It's hard to know what to believe in the days we live in. From Artificial Intelligence to paid actors and green screen
technology. All I know is I'm not taking a side. Pray for the innocent and hope it doesn't lead to World War III. I do think we are headed
there as the world is ruled by psychopaths who want more death and depopulation to everyone except them. Well the last thing I will say
about this is that GOD SEES EVERYTHING!
 
Having been to the Middle East and Israel and Palestine a few times, I will weigh in and confirm that America has very little vital interests there.
Outside of Jerusalem which should not be Israeli territory and should be administered by the Christian church, there's little of key importance to us.

And the Israel knows this thus, they fill American media with propaganda about our "most important ally". And this is done because Israel knows if Israel is left to it's own devices and has to fight their neighbors, Israel will lose.
 
NikoDuke said:
Having been to the Middle East and Israel and Palestine a few times, I will weigh in and confirm that America has very little vital interests there.
Outside of Jerusalem which should not be Israeli territory and should be administered by the Christian church, there's little of key importance to us.

And the Israel knows this thus, they fill American media with propaganda about our "most important ally". And this is done because Israel knows if Israel is left to it's own devices and has to fight their neighbors, Israel will lose.
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Yet despite America being their greatest Allie, they have done the same things here that they have done around the world. There is a
reason they have been expelled from over 100 countries. It's like when your in a relationship. When the significant other leaves and you
always put the blame on them and never look in the mirror for your actions. Why were they kicked out of these nations? The same things
happening in America are pushed by them. I'm not saying Palestine is innocent either but they live in a 45 mile open air prison. I really
prefer to not take a side but again in any war innocent men, women & especiallly children die.
 
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William_Wallace said:
Israel just a bombed a hospital killing over 500 people. They’ve killed 3000 people, almost half of them children, in 10 days.



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Not trying to defend the IDF at all, but that has already been proven untrue…

Lot of false info flying around in the fog of war.
 
white lightning said:
I love what you said Kaptain. Every word of it is true. All of the religions have been hijacked. I'm been to Sunday School and Church on and
off for my whole life. It wasn't until the last 3 or 4 years when I started studying the Bible 7 days a week that my faith grew. The more my faith grew with the Holy Spirit guiding me the more I saw the fake apostate church's pushing the lies including the vax. Home Schooling your kids is great as well as Home Bible Study. Any of the Audio Bible Apps are also great.

Back to this war. It's hard to know what to believe in the days we live in. From Artificial Intelligence to paid actors and green screen
technology. All I know is I'm not taking a side. Pray for the innocent and hope it doesn't lead to World War III. I do think we are headed
there as the world is ruled by psychopaths who want more death and depopulation to everyone except them. Well the last thing I will say
about this is that GOD SEES EVERYTHING!
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Interesting as my pastor and elders experienced the exact opposite. Welcomed with open arms. And they have been there many times (it is the birthplace of Christianity after all).

There is a stark difference between the Israeli’s just living their lives over there and the Jewish (non-religious largely) puppeteers controlling the banking and media industries.
 
Warhawk_46 said:
Interesting as my pastor and elders experienced the exact opposite. Welcomed with open arms. And they have been there many times (it is the birthplace of Christianity after all).

There is a stark difference between the Israeli’s just living their lives over there and the Jewish (non-religious largely) puppeteers controlling the banking and media industries.
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There are still some good church's. Not alot but some that actually still preach the truth. Most however have excepted the global homo
movement along with countless other things the Bible tells the world are wrong. Sodom and Gomorah were a warning for future generations.
Yet humans never seem to learn from the past and that is why so many suffer. Thinking they can do it on there own or take things like the
10 Commandments out of society. Replace both God & Jesus with Worldly Fleshly Desires and not expect our nation to fall. I'm far from perfect but I know the difference in todays tv shows, music, movies, etc. etc. from the past. We are a fallen generation.

Back to the conflict though as it's getting way off track. It's hard not to talk some religion though as that is what this war is about. Who
has the right to that land and this goes way back to the Biblical Days. People should question everything and do your own research.


 
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Warhawk_46 said:
Not trying to defend the IDF at all, but that has already been proven untrue…

Lot of false info flying around in the fog of war.
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Who has proven that to be untrue? Who blew up the hospital then and what is the evidence against them?
 
Warhawk_46 said:
Not trying to defend the IDF at all, but that has already been proven untrue…

Lot of false info flying around in the fog of war.
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I don’t believe any of the stories, including the ridiculous hang glider attack. Easily staged event for dramatic effect.
 
Warhawk_46 said:
Not trying to defend the IDF at all, but that has already been proven untrue…

Lot of false info flying around in the fog of war.
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I assume you’re talking about the hospital because even Ben Shapiro wouldn’t deny the enormous civilian death toll in Gaza(he’d just blame the civilians themselves). Over the past couple of days I’ve seen Zionists on Twitter trying to say the hospital was actually blown up by a Hamas rocket. Here’s the problem with that.

First off as soon as it was bombed a spokesman for Netanyahu claimed responsibility for the attack and said the hospital was being used as an operating base for Hamas. Then you have the fact that Hamas has been launching rockets at Israel ever since the blockade was put on Gaza 15 years ago, and in that time those rockets have only killed 30 people. How could that be possible if they’ve had rockets than can destroy huge buildings like hospitals? Why aren’t they launching those massive rockets at Israel now? It’s because they don’t have them

It also comes down to common sense. Israel admits its currently bombing the **** out of Gaza and destroying so much civilian infrastructure. It’s not a stretch to think the people bombing Gaza are the ones who bombed Gaza. They already have the built in excuse of muh human shields ready to go whenever they do something like bomb hospitals or schools, which they’ve done before
 
Sounds a lot like that proven laughable lie that Assad gassed his own people - his own supporters.As if Israel would never think about bombing a a hospital. They do that with one Israeli dead or couple of rockets landing harmlessly in the desert.
 
Kaptain said:
Sounds a lot like that proven laughable lie that Assad gassed his own people - his own supporters.As if Israel would never think about bombing a a hospital. They do that with one Israeli dead or couple of rockets landing harmlessly in the desert.
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Exactly, they just bombed a church too



 
white lightning said:
There are still some good church's. Not alot but some that actually still preach the truth. Most however have excepted the global homo
movement along with countless other things the Bible tells the world are wrong. Sodom and Gomorah were a warning for future generations.
Yet humans never seem to learn from the past and that is why so many suffer. Thinking they can do it on there own or take things like the
10 Commandments out of society. Replace both God & Jesus with Worldly Fleshly Desires and not expect our nation to fall. I'm far from perfect but I know the difference in todays tv shows, music, movies, etc. etc. from the past. We are a fallen generation.

Back to the conflict though as it's getting way off track. It's hard not to talk some religion though as that is what this war is about. Who
has the right to that land and this goes way back to the Biblical Days. People should question everything and do your own research.


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Ain’t that the truth! The Bible speaks of apostates during the end times. We see countless churches embracing ideology that clashes with the clear morality Christ taught.

We must be ever vigilant brothers, trying times are upon us and it will get a whole lot worse.
 
William_Wallace said:
I assume you’re talking about the hospital because even Ben Shapiro wouldn’t deny the enormous civilian death toll in Gaza(he’d just blame the civilians themselves). Over the past couple of days I’ve seen Zionists on Twitter trying to say the hospital was actually blown up by a Hamas rocket. Here’s the problem with that.

First off as soon as it was bombed a spokesman for Netanyahu claimed responsibility for the attack and said the hospital was being used as an operating base for Hamas. Then you have the fact that Hamas has been launching rockets at Israel ever since the blockade was put on Gaza 15 years ago, and in that time those rockets have only killed 30 people. How could that be possible if they’ve had rockets than can destroy huge buildings like hospitals? Why aren’t they launching those massive rockets at Israel now? It’s because they don’t have them

It also comes down to common sense. Israel admits its currently bombing the **** out of Gaza and destroying so much civilian infrastructure. It’s not a stretch to think the people bombing Gaza are the ones who bombed Gaza. They already have the built in excuse of muh human shields ready to go whenever they do something like bomb hospitals or schools, which they’ve done before
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Not arguing about them bombing Gaza, clearly the case. The hospital, however, was not bombed. Media ran with a report before verifying… not like something that hasn’t been done hundreds of times lately.
 
Warhawk_46 said:
Not arguing about them bombing Gaza, clearly the case. The hospital, however, was not bombed. Media ran with a report before verifying… not like something that hasn’t been done hundreds of times lately.
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I generally don't care much about this conflict but, it wouldn't surprise me if Israel has used illegal war acts, inclusive of banned gas and bombing civilian buildings.
They were found guilty of such acts during the war with Hezbollah in 2006.
 
icsept said:
I don’t believe any of the stories, including the ridiculous hang glider attack. Easily staged event for dramatic effect.
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This is probably the best way to view the "news" coming out of the war zones. Similar to the information coming out of Ukraine, probably 90% is rubbish.
 
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