ToughJ.Riggins
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Rebajlo, sorry to take this thread dangerously off track, but to comment on your mentioning of evolution vs. creationism: I am actually more of a creationist. However, I also believe in a lot of biological research whether on evolution, genetics, taxonomy or socio-biological/archeological research like human migration. I'm not "blind" to the fact that natural selection DOES exist and that simple primitive life forms that reproduce rapidly (like Bacteria) rapidly go through natural selection and mutations.
Personally I believe what the bible says- that God created man on the 6th day in his image. The plants and animals were here first. New evidence has suggested that the bone structure and shape of a higher order species doesn't "evolve" much.
Maybe God created Homo Erectus as the "primitive form of man" as a branch off of Chimps. God created man in his image. Maybe after Homo Erectus evolved more intelligence and Homo Sapiens were born in Africa God breathed a soul into us. 150,000 years ago research strongly suggests the human population had fallen to 1,000 people or less. At this time we know all human beings alive today shared a common ancestor (the Mitochondrial Eve). There were other women alive at the time, but genetics prove ALL human beings alive today share her as an ancestor way back in their family tree- with varying relations (or lack there of) to the other people alive at the time. The same thing happened about 72,000-70,000 years ago with Y chromosomal Adam (than not long after in human time-line terms, a group of less than 1,000 left Africa and gave rise to ALL the rest of the human beings who would live outside of Africa)!
The Garden of Eden was probably previous to the out of Africa migration where there was no seven deadly sins because everyone had all they needed so you simply couldn't over "gratify" yourself with hedons. Human beings chose to disobey God (whether the tree of knowledge was symbolic or literal I don't know). Because human beings chose the way of the Devil- we have to now face the cruelty of nature and survival of the fittest.
Jesus came to walk the earth as a man to take on our pain and suffering. He sacrificed himself for our sins with his crucifixion before ascending into heaven. His resurrection's meaning to me- shows that eternal glory is possible with Jesus in heaven. I'm not sure I believe the eternal "fire" version of hell. I believe that Christ will come again "in glory" "to judge the" humans "living" at his return "and the dead". The dead are the majority of humans who have died, who are not worthy of heaven before the day of judgment. Heaven at this point- may be a rare gift for born again's. Some of these dead that will be re-risen and judged will be left behind with the evil spirits- for them and their seed to live with famine, war, disease and with increasing earthly temperatures before these people go extinct.
Whether these folks simply die or go to some place where they are uncomfortable I don't know. Maybe hell is simply the absence of God. It could be a gloomy dark humid place where it storms all the time, has no food that tastes good or fun things to do...who knows?
Personally I believe what the bible says- that God created man on the 6th day in his image. The plants and animals were here first. New evidence has suggested that the bone structure and shape of a higher order species doesn't "evolve" much.
Maybe God created Homo Erectus as the "primitive form of man" as a branch off of Chimps. God created man in his image. Maybe after Homo Erectus evolved more intelligence and Homo Sapiens were born in Africa God breathed a soul into us. 150,000 years ago research strongly suggests the human population had fallen to 1,000 people or less. At this time we know all human beings alive today shared a common ancestor (the Mitochondrial Eve). There were other women alive at the time, but genetics prove ALL human beings alive today share her as an ancestor way back in their family tree- with varying relations (or lack there of) to the other people alive at the time. The same thing happened about 72,000-70,000 years ago with Y chromosomal Adam (than not long after in human time-line terms, a group of less than 1,000 left Africa and gave rise to ALL the rest of the human beings who would live outside of Africa)!
The Garden of Eden was probably previous to the out of Africa migration where there was no seven deadly sins because everyone had all they needed so you simply couldn't over "gratify" yourself with hedons. Human beings chose to disobey God (whether the tree of knowledge was symbolic or literal I don't know). Because human beings chose the way of the Devil- we have to now face the cruelty of nature and survival of the fittest.
Jesus came to walk the earth as a man to take on our pain and suffering. He sacrificed himself for our sins with his crucifixion before ascending into heaven. His resurrection's meaning to me- shows that eternal glory is possible with Jesus in heaven. I'm not sure I believe the eternal "fire" version of hell. I believe that Christ will come again "in glory" "to judge the" humans "living" at his return "and the dead". The dead are the majority of humans who have died, who are not worthy of heaven before the day of judgment. Heaven at this point- may be a rare gift for born again's. Some of these dead that will be re-risen and judged will be left behind with the evil spirits- for them and their seed to live with famine, war, disease and with increasing earthly temperatures before these people go extinct.
Whether these folks simply die or go to some place where they are uncomfortable I don't know. Maybe hell is simply the absence of God. It could be a gloomy dark humid place where it storms all the time, has no food that tastes good or fun things to do...who knows?