Huckabee soft on immigration

[Bart]

Don't be fooled into thinking Huckabee will take a strong stance against immigration. He won't. Just one example in this old news story.


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Arkansas is putting through legislation asking for verified identification for voting and denying taxpayer funded benefits and services to those illegally in our country. Sounds reasonable to me and Arizona put the same thing in place with Proposition 200 which was approved November 2004. Well apparently it doesn't sound reasonable or "Christian" to the current Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee.


Arizona Republic
<BLOCKQUOTE>Gov. Mike Huckabee on Thursday heaped criticism upon immigration legislation in the Arkansas Legislature, describing it as "inflammatory . . . race-baiting and demagoguery." He also challenged the Christian values of its main sponsor.


Huckabee said the bill, seeking to forbid public assistance and voting rights to undocumented immigrants, "inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there's a real problem. But there's not."


The bill is modeled after Proposition 200, approved by Arizona voters in November. The Arkansas measure was filed by Republican Sens. Jim Holt of Springdale and Denny Altes of Fort Smith.


Huckabee, also a Republican and a Baptist minister, said Arkansans should be welcoming hard-working immigrants of all races. He singled out Holt, who often talks of his strong Christian beliefs, saying, "I drink a different kind of Jesus juice. My faith says don't make false accusations against somebody.


"In the Bible, it's called don't bear false witness."


In response, Holt said he was hurt by the governor's questioning his faith.


"I just want to uphold the law and protect the benefits that apply to citizens," Holt said. </BLOCKQUOTE>


Which one sounds like a lunatic and which one sounds like a logical thinker? If you want to go around doing the Christian good and ignoring the law go become a monk or priest and leave the enforcing of laws to those who want to do it. I can't believe that a Governor, someone who is looked upon as a person who is wanting the law to be upheld, could stoop to a personal attack on someone who is suggesting what the majority of the public wants.


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[White Shogun]

"I drink a different kind of Jesus juice..."

Dude... for someone reason that sounds absolutely disgusting.

Thanks for digging this up, Bart.

Ron Paul for President!!

 

[guest301]

Just more mindless milquetoast Christianity. We are suppossed to uphold the laws of the land and not give sanctuary to illegals. That being said, the milquetoast Christianity exists in leaders like Huckabee and Brownback and not grassroots politically active Christians. It was Christian conservatives coming out in droves with emails, letters, phone calls, faxes and visits to their Congressman that brought down the latest Amnesty bill. Republican pollster Frank Luntz said that he knows something is bad about a bill when he hears "Christian conservatives using four letter words to describe their opposition to the bill". I have certainly droppped my fair share of F-bombs describing this bill. I usually don't talk that way, at least not publically.

 

[Baseball Fan]

Huckabee is only good at making stupid jokes about John Edwards. The rest of his campaign is milktoast and he'll be no better than Bush.

 

[Bart]

All of a sudden Mike Huckabee is on a roll,he's caught fire and now has surged into a tie as the front runner. Is this a joke? It must be true if the media says so. Right?


[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1952159120071219 ?feedType=RSS&amp;feedName=topNews&amp;rpc=22&amp;sp=true [/url]


By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent


DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) - Mike Huckabee has surged into a virtual tie with front-runner Rudy Giuliani in the national 2008 Republican presidential race two weeks before the first contest, according to a Reuters/NWOby poll released on Wednesday.


Huckabee, a former governor of Arkansas whose campaign has caught fire in recent weeks, wiped out an 18-point deficit in one month to pull within one point of Giuliani, 23 percent to 22 percent.


Among Democrats, Hillary Clinton's national advantage over second-place rival Barack Obama shrunk slightly to eight percentage points as the races for the White House tightened in both parties. Clinton had an 11-point edge last month.


The shifting numbers have changed the shape of a dynamic presidential race two weeks before Iowa on January 3 kicks off the state-by-state process of choosing candidates in each party for the November 2008 election.


"Huckabee is on a roll, he has gotten an enormous amount of publicity and he is doing very well with conservatives, who at least for now appear to have found a candidate," pollster John NWOby said."


What do you know, even Mr. Pesach is on the Huckabee band wagon, or perhapshe and his like minded friends are driving the bandwagon andwaving the flags.


[url]http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual &amp;VideoID=23826004[/url]

 

[White Shogun]

I've read elsewhere that the libs want Huckabee to win the Republican convention because they believe there is no way Huckabee can beat any Democratic challenger because of his in-your-face religious beliefs.

Others are saying Chuck Norris' endorsement is at least partially responsible for Huckabee's 'surge.'

We can't say Paul isn't getting publicity anymore though. He has been invited to appear on numerous news programs and TV shows, it's just the spin doctors try to find a way to make him look like a kook.

There is also the chance they want to promote Huckabee because they know he'll lock up the 'conservative Christian' vote, which might have been persuaded to join the Paul or Thompson campaign, who are a greater threat in the long run to Giuliani / liberals than Huckabee.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Like "Rudy McRomney" and "Fraud" Thompson, Mike Hucksterabee is a puppet for the Globalist Elite. Have a look at the following...

(Excerpt from "CHRISTIAN RIGHT JUST DOESN'T GET IT" by Dr.Chuck Baldwin)

"Have you wondered why Mike Huckabee is suddenly getting so much favorable attention from the mainstream media (who themselves are controlled by this gaggle of global elite)? To find the answer as to why a professing pro-life, conservative Christian would suddenly become the darling of the media, look no further than the fact that just a couple of months ago, Mr. Huckabee appeared before the globalist-minded Council on Foreign Relations. (Read his speech here) And when he did, it became abundantly clear that Huckabee was a man globalists could trust."

"By the way, as you read Huckabee's speech, you will find that he is George W. Bush on steroids! This is a man who intends to meddle in the affairs of nations around the world like you can't believe. Talk about entangling alliances: Huckabee intends for our State, Energy, Housing, Education, Justice, Treasury, and Transportation departments to spend untold billions of tax dollars on just about anything and everything, including schools, medical facilities, roads, sewage treatment, water filtration, electricity, and legal and banking systems in countries all over the globe. And that is exactly the kind of man the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) wants in Washington."

***Reference article...
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin417.htm

***Hucksterabee's speech to the CFR...
http://www.cfr.org/publication/14335/

 

[White Shogun]

Thanks for the article, Dixie. I have some friends who are jumping on the Huckabee band wagon, maybe this article will shed some light on the man's true intentions.

 

[white is right]

I've read elsewhere that the libs want Huckabee to win the Republican convention because they believe there is no way Huckabee can beat any Democratic challenger because of his in-your-face religious beliefs.

Others are saying Chuck Norris' endorsement is at least partially responsible for Huckabee's 'surge.'

We can't say Paul isn't getting publicity anymore though. He has been invited to appear on numerous news programs and TV shows, it's just the spin doctors try to find a way to make him look like a kook.

There is also the chance they want to promote Huckabee because they know he'll lock up the 'conservative Christian' vote, which might have been persuaded to join the Paul or Thompson campaign, who are a greater threat in the long run to Giuliani / liberals than Huckabee.

Hey Shogun do you think Rudi is a left winger? I hope not as he was very law and order as the mayor of NYC. He further aided corporations and the gentrification of the city. He also grand standed on the mob prosecutions in the 80's. I'm definately not for him but there is no way he is liberal beyond his abortion rights stand.

 

[White Shogun]

white is right:
He is also anti-gun and pro-gay rights. His anti-gun stance alone makes him a lib in my book.

 

[Weltner]

One of many reasons why I do not heart Huckabee.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

white is right:
He is also anti-gun and pro-gay rights. His anti-gun stance alone makes him a lib in my book.

Indeed! "RINO" Rudy sued the firearms industry as NYC mayor, was soft on illegals, is for public funding of abortion (ie - murder of babies) & is pro-homosexual agenda. He's a liberal to the core! In addition, the man has been the one who has financially gained the most from 9/11, so I'd not be shocked if he (like the Neocon "leadership") was complicit or had prior knowledge of 9/11. Just remember..."Cui Bono?"

 

[Lance Alworth]

Mike Huckabee makes me sick. Take a look at this Mike Huckabee supporter and try not to laugh at his utter foolishness

Ron Paul - Beat down by the preacher

 

[White Shogun]

Mike Huckabee makes me sick. Take a look at this Mike Huckabee supporter and try not to laugh at his utter foolishness

Ron Paul - Beat down by the preacher

You actually listened to that whole thing?

 

[Lance Alworth]

Mike Huckabee makes me sick. Take a look at this Mike Huckabee supporter and try not to laugh at his utter foolishness

Ron Paul - Beat down by the preacher

You actually listened to that whole thing?

I'm a glutton for punishment. This guy is probably one of the most ignorant Huckabee supporters I have ever seen. These are the types of people we are up against in this whole thing. That is why it is so important to get the word out about Ron Paul, because otherwise THIS is who is going to be selecting the GOP presidential nominee

 

[Bart]

Mike Huckabee makes me sick. Take a look at this Mike Huckabee supporter and try not to laugh at his utter foolishness

Ron Paul - Beat down by the preacher

You actually listened to that whole thing?

I listened to a few of his lectures. His act is just too good, in my opinion. The mannerisms, drawl, and cowpokeexpressions seem carefully scripted. He's probably a member of the actors guild and lives in New York.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Folks, here's even more damning evidence on the fraud that is Mike "Hucksterbee"...

Huckabee's illegal-alien record hit

By Stephen Dinan
December 26, 2007


Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, seen here Saturday in Council Bluffs, Iowa, has again come under fire for his handling of illegal-alien issues, this time for failing to strike a deal with the federal government to train state police.

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Mike Huckabee is overselling his record of cracking down on illegal aliens as governor, claiming he ordered his state police to arrest illegal aliens when in fact he never signed the agreement with federal authorities that would have allowed it.



Mr. Huckabee signed a bill that began the process, but he never followed through with signing an agreement with the Department of Homeland Security to secure training for state police officers. Without it, they cannot enforce federal immigration law.



"This is a policy difference, but the facts are the facts  under Governor Huckabee's administration, there was never even any effort to begin negotiating with Homeland Security," said former state Rep. Jeremy Hutchinson, the Republican who sponsored the 2005 law.



Mr. Huckabee's campaign acknowledged he didn't follow through, but said it was lack of time, not lack of interest.



"The clock ran out. We're glad to hear Governor Beebe picked up the ball and is running with it," said Charmaine Yoest, a senior adviser to Mr. Huckabee.



Mr. Huckabee signed the law in March 2005, more than 20 months before he left office. In less than a year in office, his successor, Gov. Mike Beebe, a Democrat, has already begun negotiations with DHS.



Immigration-control groups say they fear Mr. Huckabee could repeat President Bush's track record on immigration, which they say amounted to tough talk but a failure to follow through.



"The devil is in the details, and Bush has shown a pattern of deception on immigration enforcement again and again and again, and the Huckster is right in line with that technique," said William Gheen, president of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, who said Mr. Huckabee is trying to fool the Republican primary electorate.

"He knows he's wrong on immigration; he can't win if he's wrong on immigration  therefore, lie," Mr. Gheen said.



He said he will be in Iowa in the run-up to the Jan. 3 caucuses to try to convince voters Mr. Huckabee can't be trusted.



Mr. Huckabee makes the enforcement claim on the immigration section of his Web site  one of only two times he talks about his record on the issue in Arkansas: "As governor, I ordered my state troopers to work with the Department of Homeland Security to arrest illegals and enforce federal immigration law."



Ironically, Mr. Huckabee calls for better federal-local police cooperation as part of his nine-point immigration plan released earlier this month: "Local authorities must be provided the tools, training and funding they need so local police can turn illegal immigrants over to the federal authorities."



Cooperation has become a hot issue for many states and localities, and polls show voters want police to be able to check the immigration status of those they arrest or pull over in traffic stops.



The only other former governor in the race, Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, signed a cooperation agreement with Homeland Security officials in the waning days of his administration last year, but his Democratic successor rescinded it immediately.



In Arkansas, the law Mr. Huckabee signed called for his state police director to negotiate the agreement with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement  in this case, Steve Dozier, who Mr. Huckabee appointed after firing his predecessor.



Mr. Dozier did not return a call seeking comment for this article. He is now an executive with Arkansas-based Wal-Mart.



Mr. Hutchinson, the former Arkansas state lawmaker, who supports a rival of Mr. Huckabee's in the presidential race  former Sen. Fred Thompson  said that even though Mr. Huckabee signed his bill, "I don't think he supported the concept."



"My frustration with not pursuing it was we never even sought to determine what the federal government would give us and help pay for, and from my perspective, the only reason we shouldn't even initiate conversations is because as a policy reason we didn't want to do it," he said.



At a press conference last week called to answer charges about his Arkansas record, several state lawmakers who are supporting Mr. Huckabee said they remembered passing the bill, but couldn't say whether the governor ever followed through.



"I was in the state Senate as we pushed that bill through," said Sen. Gilbert Baker. "I believe that became law in the state of Arkansas. Now following on through that as far as agreements, I don't know the details there."



Still, those lawmakers said Mr. Huckabee did what he could. They said he was proactive in signing a bill to prevent illegal aliens from being able to obtain driver's licenses, though some state Republicans said that was a reversal from earlier in his administration when he wanted to allow licenses regardless of legal status.



"I sponsored it; it had his support," said former Rep. Doug Matayo. "He even sent some of the bureaucratic organizations to help work with me to make sure that it was right, well-written and something we could live with as a cost measure, too.".

***Reference article...

[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20 071226/NATION/712809668/1001&template=nextpage [/url]

 

[freedom1]

Yeah, the Huckster is an establishment shill sent in to take away votes from Ron Paul. His debate comments seemed scripted, as if he knew about the questions beforehand.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

FYI, here's a good clip demonstrating that Hucksterbee is for sale to the highest bidder(s)...i.e. - the Globalist Elite!

[url]http://www.jonesreport.com/article/12_07/211207_huckabee_bou ght.html[/url]

 

[Bart]

Huckabeewould be a disaster forus. Excerpts from Coulter's column.


[url]http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2007/12/26/lib erals_sing_huckelujah[/url]


Huckabee opposes school choice, earning him the coveted endorsement of the National Education Association of New Hampshire, which is like the sheriff being endorsed by the local whorehouse.


He is, however, in favor of school choice for kids in Mexico: They have the choice of going to school there or here. Huckabee promoted giving in-state tuition in Arkansas to illegal immigrants from Mexico -- but not to U.S. citizens from Ohio. "I don't believe you punish the children," he said, "for the crime and sins of the parents."


Since when is not offering someone lavish taxpayer-funded benefits a form of punishment? That's almost as crazy as a governor pardoning a known sex offender so he can go out and rape and kill.


Huckabee claims he's against punishing children for the crimes of their fathers in the case of illegal immigrants. But in the case of slavery, he believes the children of the children's children should be routinely punished for the crimes of their fathers. Huckabee has said illegal immigration gives Americans a chance to make up for slavery. (I thought letting O.J. walk for murdering two people was payback for slavery.)


Just two years ago, Huckabee cheerfully announced to a meeting of the Hispanic advocacy group League of United Latin American Citizens that "Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority." Who's writing this guy's speeches -- Al Sharpton? (Actually, take out "Southern" and "white," and I agree with Huckabee's sentiment).


He said the transition from Arkansas' Southern traditions would "require extraordinary efforts on both sides of the border." But, curiously, most of the efforts Huckabee described would come entirely from this side of the border. Arkansas, he pledged, would celebrate diversity "in culture, in language and in population." He said America would have to "accommodate" those who come here.

 

[jaxvid]

Huckabee, Jesus Christ! is the only response I can think of to this "Christian". About the only thing I can add to Coulters column is how in the hell can this country seriously consider electing as president another governer from that rat ass little state?