how can communism be so diverse?

clement

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in my country communism is the main political force, every political party is more or less communist
but when i look at other communist countries like china, i see many differences to the point where communists in some countries want to go to war with china or russia (which i believe is still communist)
how come in china, russia or the USSR, communism is conservative, but in western europe and america it pushes gay propaganda and all possible perversions
in europe and america communism is even friendly to anarchism, in china you would get arrested for being an anarchist
how come in china it is against religion but in russia with putin or stalin, communism respects religion?
in france when the communist party was the main leftist political force another communist party was created which hosted the followers of trotsky, the CIA financed them because they didn't want the USSR to control france throught the communist party
then the people from this new party joined other political parties or created new ones, following the directions of trotsky, that's how most political parties were turned into communist parties
today macron is a maoist so i think if the US are destroyed he will do the same in france as mao did in china
and i have to say i don't see it in a bad way now, because it is the only realistic chance we have to have a conservative revolution
and it seems that communism leaves a lot of room to be conservative, oppose immigration etc

what do you think and do you think there is an alternative in america or other countries? i personally think nothing good can come out of a democratic system
i have always been a national-socialist but now i'm starting to see communism as a good outcome
i was also infuenced by the failures of democracy in the US, how not much changed despite people voting a certain way
 
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To me it seems like all countries have always had a ruling class. Some were better at allowing freedom and prosperity for people than others.

I don’t know that what we call communism fits into a neat category because although technically communist I believe it’s actually easier to start a business in say Vietnam than the us once such rankings are compiled.

Communism where the state controls everything is undesirable in my view but I can’t pretend democracy the way it’s done in the US is much better or different.


Democracy just means all the knuckleheads get an equal say with productive citizens at the ballot box but frankly once elected politicians elude all public control.

There is no panacea but I don’t doubt that if language is not a big issue for you that there are lots of places worldwide where genuine freedom and cost of living surpass the US and a lot of Western Europe.

I don’t think I’d ever leave the US simply because I’m too tied to it with family but if I were a young guy I’d certainly take a swing at some other places.
 

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America is a Republic. They always use the term Democracy as they are pushing towards socialism and then end game communism. The
communism of China gives the people 0 freedom. It's a totalitarian country and no dissent is allowed in any form. Yes you cannot believe
in any God unless you do it in secret. The NWO is modeling their worldwide One World Govt. with China as the template. If they succeed.
America is one of the last semi free nations on earth. If we fall they will take communism to a level where most people won't want to live
anymore. China has no humanity. They treat the people worse than animals. North Korea is similar.
 
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America is by far more communist today than Russia is. Communists have been infiltrating the US government since the 1930s, at least, with our communist sympathizing POS dictator / President FDR who filled the government with commies and made the world safe for communism. They've gradually taken over our government through the battering ram of "diversity" "multiculturalism" and "open borders". They've torn asunder the freedoms and the white, Christian heritage of America by flooding us with 3rd worlders who vote for the communists and against traditional Americans.

American are dying in a sea of diversity and invasion of 3rd worlders who hate us and are just here to steal from us. Communists have taken advantage of the chaos to institute their globohomo hellscape.
 

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Also I hate to say it, but America has not been a republic since before all of us were born. We are and have been for over 100 years an empire. The rest is just clever marketing
 

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I think perhaps the term “communist” can be antiquated when applying it to various countries all over the globe that have “socialist” policies to some degree. To me, it’s more important to look at which countries are controlled by ZOG and which ones have nationalist governments. France and China might both be “communist” but one also has a nationalist (racialist?) underpinning and the other is a ZOG puppet.

I think Russia was ZOG controlled but in recent years many of jewish oligarchs have been purged and now many are leaving on their own. You can find articles in jewish media talking about this. Therefore I’d say Russia is freeing themselves of that yoke. Whether they be “communist” or “capitalist” is really not as important as being nationalist and free from parasitical foreigners.
 

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I think perhaps the term “communist” can be antiquated when applying it to various countries all over the globe that have “socialist” policies to some degree. To me, it’s more important to look at which countries are controlled by ZOG and which ones have nationalist governments. France and China might both be “communist” but one also has a nationalist (racialist?) underpinning and the other is a ZOG puppet.

I think Russia was ZOG controlled but in recent years many of jewish oligarchs have been purged and now many are leaving on their own. You can find articles in jewish media talking about this. Therefore I’d say Russia is freeing themselves of that yoke. Whether they be “communist” or “capitalist” is really not as important as being nationalist and free from parasitical foreigners.

france was divided between USSR and the US after world war 2
this is because de gaulle managed to keep france "independant" instead of becoming a colony of the US like japan for example
because of this france has been part of NATO and usually on the same side as the US, but also friendly to communist countries
with the french communist party (a puppet of the USSR) being the main leftist party until the USSR collapsed
i think if macron is relieved of his commitments to the US, he will be on the side of china and russia
france has always been friendly to russia and china, but macron was forced to distance himself from russia because of the war
 

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“Antifa” game withdrawn from sale at Fnac: “We don’t understand”, reacts Libertalia, the publisher of the board game​


“We understand that the marketing of this” game “may have offended some of our audiences. We are doing what is necessary to ensure that it is no longer available in the coming hours”, indeed replied the brand to the tweet from the SCPN which denounced a game highlighting “the antifas, who break, set fire to and attack in the demonstrations”. For his part, the RN deputy did not go with dead hands: “Box 1: “I block a university”; Box 2: “I beat up a right-wing activist”; Box 3: “I attack a meeting of the RN”; Case 4: “I am throwing a Molotov cocktail at the CRS”.

wikipedia briography of the founder of the store chain that withdrew the game from sale:

Before the rise of the extreme right, Max Théret often engaged with street battles against French Stalinists during the years following the death of Vladimir Lenin and the intense power struggle between Joseph Stalin and Leon Trotsky.

Between 1936 and 1939, Max Théret joined the battle against Francisco Franco in the Spanish Civil War. After which he returned to France, where he met with Trotsky who was in exile, and became his informal bodyguard.

During the Second World War he fought for the French army, and joined the resistance during the Occupation, helping to distribute leftist newspapers.

so on one side, anarchist communists that attack the police and the state every chance they get, on the other side, followers of leon trotsky that are closer to the state and police

it's hard to understand why they are not on the same side

probably because there are no real fascists left so they have to attack each other
 

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The US has plenty of fascists if we follow the proper definition (state control of nominally private corporations). Ironic.


Also there is a two hour interview documentary on Putin on the Tubi app worth checking out.

Anyway I think that the reason that communism is done so differently in so many places just boils down to whoever is in control of it and the cultural history that shapes it.
 

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Scary stuff. If they don't fight for their farms, property, and livelihoods.. They deserve to lose it.
 
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