Hernandez reprimanded for comments

[jaxvid]

Keith Hernandez feels that women should not be in the dugout. He spoke his mind. The PC police smacked him and he apologized for telling the truth about his personal viewpoint. Pussy! He is a rich man, he should have said F--K off! I don't think women belong on the bench in a man's game and I'm sticking to it!

That is why I have the utmost respect for Vijay Singh, he publicly said that women should not play on the men's tour and when they came for his scalp he held firm. Of course he is a bit protected by his dark skin, still you gotta respect him.

Keith Hernandez reprimanded by Mets network for 'inappropriate' comments

April 24, 2006

NEW YORK (AP) -- Mets broadcaster Keith Hernandez was reprimanded by the team's television network for "inappropriate" remarks during a broadcast about a female member of San Diego's training staff.

The former MVP first baseman said women "don't belong in the dugout" when he spotted 33-year-old Kelly Calabrese, the Padres' full-time massage therapist, high-fiving Mike Piazza in the dugout after he hit a home run during New York's 8-1 victory Saturday in San Diego.

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After Hernandez found out later in the broadcast that Calabrese was with the Padres training staff, he repeated that she shouldn't have been there. "I won't say that women belong in the kitchen, but they don't belong in the dugout," he said.

Hernandez, a former Mets star, then laughed and said: "You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have."

"Keith Hernandez made inappropriate comments regarding the presence of a female massage therapist of the San Diego Padres who was in the dugout," SportsNet New York said in a statement Monday. "We immediately addressed the issue with Keith and reprimanded him, and he publicly apologized during Sunday's game."

Hernandez said Sunday that he was sorry if he offended anyone. He also said that baseball's rulebook allowed only the head trainer and assistant trainer in the dugout.

But a Major League Baseball memo previously sent to all clubs said that in addition to the two trainers, one member of the conditioning staff was permitted in the dugout during games. After Hernandez's remarks, MLB called the Padres and verified that, indeed, Calabrese was allowed.

Calabrese said Sunday that she was flabbergasted by Hernandez's comments.

"It's a little shocking but you know what -- it happens," she said. "He not only discredited me as a person, but he discredited women."

Padres chief executive officer Sandy Alderson also criticized Hernandez.

"Her competence and professionalism, not gender, are the important factors in her role with the club," he said Monday in a statement.

"Our society has made great strides in gender equity in recent years and that progress should be reflected as well in professional baseball," he said. "Keith's remarks were uninformed and were a disservice to Kelly and those women like her who have performed admirably in positions previously reserved for men."

 

[Southern Knight]

From the San Diego Union-Tribune, March 21, 2006:

"The Padres also are relying on their full-time massage therapist, Kelly Calabrese, who has earned a reputation for hamstring maintenance. Two players who came to the club with a history of hamstring problems, Jay Payton and Dave Roberts, suffered no DL-caliber hamstring injuries in their first season with the Padres. "Kelly is phenomenal," Roberts said. Her regulars this year likely will include Sledge, who in May had surgery to repair a torn right hamstring."

(Insert your own "hamstring maintenance" joke here).

Hernandez should have refused to play ball (no pun intended) with his castemasters. He could have -- and should have -- stuck to his guns. Hernandez is a legend in New York; the people there would have supported him.

 

[Don Wassall]

Hernandez was one of the central figures in baseball's cocaine trial in 1985, a now almost forgotten event that blackened MLB much like steroids use is now.


Granted, that was a long time ago and people can and do reform and redeem themselves, but he'shardly someone I expect to be a leader in speaking"politically incorrectly"and then sticking to it.

 

[whiteCB]

Don I'm not that old so what's this MLB cocaine trial you're talking about?

 

[Don Wassall]

Don I'm not that old so what's this MLB cocaine trial you're talking about?

The Pirates clubhouse was the base of widespread coke dealing. Happy-go-lucky manager Chuck Tanner was apparently oblivious to it all. There ended up being a federal trial in Pittsburgh and lots of players ended up testifying about their coke habit. Hernandez was one of the players involved, along with Dave Parker, Lonnie Smith, Dale Berra and others. Berra implicated Bill Madlock and Willie Stargell as suppliers. Stargell, a miserable SOB who treated fans like dirt, is revered in Pittsburgh only after Roberto Clemente.


At the trial it turned out that even the Pirates mascot (a white guy) was dealing coke!

 

[sport historian]

Hernandez made a big deal out of denying that he was a coke user. I think he even demanded apologies from those baseball officials who had called him a user. It turned out that Hernandez WAS involved, exposing him as a shameless liar.

 

[JoeV]

Remember Lamar Hoyt? Won the Cy Young for the ChiSox in '83. He was a HUGE cokehead.

 

[pt.guard2]

It was pretty wide spread from what I remember.

Tim Raines commented that the reason he slid head first was to avoid breaking the coke vials he had in his back pocket.

 

[Bear-Arms]

It was pretty wide spread from what I remember.

Tim Raines commented that the reason he slid head first was to avoid breaking the coke vials he had in his back pocket.

That is why he is called "The Rock" for rock cocaine j/k

 

[Don Wassall]

Speaking of cocaine, Steve Howe's life ended tragically when he was killed in a car accident at the age of 48. He was suspended by MLB so many times for his drug problem that it became a farce.


Howe became one of those white athletes who was always mentioned whenever the topic was athletes with drug problems, much like Bill Romanowski and Mark Chmura were always included when discussing poorly behaved football players,and Bill Laimbeer was always included among the "dirty" basketball players.

 

[white is right]

The Pirates had their own drug dealer that they ratted out and he served time. It amazes me that the whole team was nearly tuned up and they won the 79' series. How many more titles could they have won?

 

[Don Wassall]

Dave Parker and most likely Bill Madlock and Willie Stargell among others were "tuned up" in '79, but by the time the infamous baseball drug trial took place in '85 -- which focused on the drug dealings taking place out of the Pirates' clubhouse in that mid-80s era -- the Buccos were finishing up a marvelous 57-104 season. Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[aussieaussie31]

Ryne Sandburg's wife was screwing Keith Hernandez. That is the central reason why the cubbies cut him loose. Ryno never really got into details as he was a pretty reserved guy. However what makes it worse is that Ryno and Keith were supposedly good friends until the incident.

 

[Fightingtowin]

The Pirates had their own drug dealer that they ratted out and he served time. It amazes me that the whole team was nearly tuned up and they won the 79' series. How many more titles could they have won?

Same thing for the 79 Steelers. I saw a documentary called "Cocaine Cowboys," about how the cocaine trade got started and became big. One of the two guys most responsible said the entire Steelers offensive line was doing lines of coke in his living room the Friday before the1979 Super Bowl. When he asked if this was going to hurt them, they said not at all, and went out and won. Here's his quote.

"Two nights before, I've got the whole front line of the Pittsburgh
Steelers in my house. They all sat down and: "Come on, come on. Break
the sh*t out. Break the sh*t out."


They partied and they really partied hard. I mean, you have no idea
what these guys would go through. I'm saying, "You guys are going to go
out and play football?"


"Yeah, and we're going to win."


They went out and won, you know. Didn't affect them."

That was a crazy time. I wonder how prevalent hard drug use like that is today in the NFL. No doubt, the 90s Cowboys were heavy into it. Highly doubt much has changed


Edited by: Fightingtowin

 

[ex-cop in ga]

The drug use was huge during the early 90s in the NFL. I had an old partner that worked on shift with me some years back who was originally from Denver. He was a lineman for the Broncos(I can't remember what position)during the 89-90 seasons. I remember him telling me about all the parties he went to and the drug use and sex that took place. He said that it was just like in the movie "Any Given Sunday" where players would snort cocaine off of a woman's breasts and have sex with two or three women at a time. He said that he had his first "threesome" at one of these parties. He also said that a certain famous quarterback during that era would show up with a woman on each arm(neither one his wife)snort 3 to 4 lines of cocaine, leave with his women, and would be in the studio filming a "Say no to drugs" commercial come Monday morning!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Interesting story ex-cop. Sounds like he was talking about someone whose name sounds kind of like Ron Xray.

 

[Don Wassall]

Same thing for the 79 Steelers. I saw a documentary called "Cocaine Cowboys," about how the cocaine trade got started and became big. One of the two guys most responsible said the entire Steelers offensive line was doing lines of coke in his living room the Friday before the1979 Super Bowl. When he asked if this was going to hurt them, they said not at all, and went out and won. Here's his quote.

"Two nights before, I've got the whole front line of the Pittsburgh Steelers in my house. They all sat down and: "Come on, come on. Break the sh*t out. Break the sh*t out."


They partied and they really partied hard. I mean, you have no idea what these guys would go through. I'm saying, "You guys are going to go out and play football?"


"Yeah, and we're going to win."


They went out and won, you know. Didn't affect them."


That was a crazy time. I wonder how prevalent hard drug use like that is today in the NFL. No doubt, the 90s Cowboys were heavy into it. Highly doubt much has changed

Was it the Steelers' offensive line or defensive line? I know at least some of their o-linemen were steroids users, but the coke thing sounds more like something their d-linemen would be doing right before a Super Bowl (shades of Stanley Wilson and many of the Bengals participating in a huge drug-a-thon the night before they played the 49ers).


One thing for sure, the linemen from that great team haven't shown a long life expectancy. Of their d-linemen, Dwight White and Ernie Holmes both died last year. Steve Furness, a white backup d-lineman who was damn good and played quite a bit, died a couple of years ago. Center Mike Webster had brain damage and lived a sad post-football life before dying at the age of 50. Steve Courson had major heart problems at a young age. Justin Strzelczyk, who played in the early '90s,went berserk and committed suicide a few years back after deliberately crashing his pickup.Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[OldSchoolBoy75]

One thing for sure, the linemen from that great team haven't shown a long life expectancy.  Of their d-linemen, Dwight White and Ernie Holmes both died last year.  Steve Furness, a white backup d-lineman who was damn good and played quite a bit, died a couple of years ago. Center Mike Webster had brain damage and lived a sad post-football life before dying at the age of 50.  Steve Courson had major heart problems at a young age.  Justin Strzelczyk, who played in the early '90s, went berserk and committed suicide a few years back after deliberately crashing his pickup.

Unfortunately, Steve Courson is no longer with us as well. More than three years ago, he lost his life due to an accident outside his house while trying to cut a tree. It had seemed he had somewhat gotten over his heart problems and had just recently testified to Congress during that major steroids trial.