Greg Olsen

[dwid]

With his 366th catch last night Olsen moves into the NFL's top 250 all-time receivers(Catches/Receptions) list, putting another white receiver on the active list in the top 250, which include:

18. Jason Witten, 860 receptions. With 3 catches tonight can move to number 17.
22. Wes Welker, 841
117. Dallas Clark, 505
149. Heath Miller, 457
206. Brandon Stokely, 397
220. Owen Daniels, 385
247. Greg Olsen, 366, Very under used. Should have a lot more catches at this point in his career!

Next to make the top 250 should be Zach Miller, (317) however, he needs to get more than 1 or 2 catches a game. He only had 1 catch yesterday!

Then, maybe Jordy Nelson with 284, but I'm not sure; could be another white WR somewhere in between?

Eric Decker just went over 200 with 206 catches early in his career. Maybe he'll be the beneficiary of having Manning for a few more years!

Hartline is at 250.

Kevin Walter with 356, 9 away from being ranked 250, of course he would need to get more than that as it will be bumped up , he will be 33 next season which isn't that old for a White receiver, I believe he has been injured this season, back problems.

I can see him doing it, maybe at least 20 to 30 catches a year for a few more years , Brandon Stokley is still around, actually 37 this year putting up 13 catches in 6 games. I wonder what the record is for oldest receiver. He has 90 catches since the age 34, not bad considering he pretty much missed a year when he was 35 with 2 games, 1 catch, and suited up for the Vikings game, but apparently suffered a concussion, not sure when? was he playing special teams? now the coach is probably not going to play him the rest of the year because he has a history of concussions. He said he will continue to play as long as he can regardless, but said he has had over a dozen concussions dating back to high school or whenever he started playing. (another slot receiver that played with Manning with concussion issues)

if he wants to continue to play, not wise for him to say he suffered at least a dozen concussions since high school and talking about the one at ULL where he couldn't see the scoreboard because it was all blurry but still went back in the game. I would retire but the damage is probably already done, he is saying he is living for now, and something about who cares what happens 5 to 10 years down the line. His dad died at 66 and suffered from Alzheimer's, which is something that increases you getting it from concussions, his dad played qb at LSU.

 

[davidholly]

So you think Manning makes poorly judged throws that get his slot receivers injured?

 

[Carolina Speed]

Kevin Walter with 356, 9 away from being ranked 250, of course he would need to get more than that as it will be bumped up , he will be 33 next season which isn't that old for a White receiver, I believe he has been injured this season, back problems.

I can see him doing it, maybe at least 20 to 30 catches a year for a few more years , Brandon Stokley is still around, actually 37 this year putting up 13 catches in 6 games. I wonder what the record is for oldest receiver. He has 90 catches since the age 34, not bad considering he pretty much missed a year when he was 35 with 2 games, 1 catch, and suited up for the Vikings game, but apparently suffered a concussion, not sure when? was he playing special teams? now the coach is probably not going to play him the rest of the year because he has a history of concussions. He said he will continue to play as long as he can regardless, but said he has had over a dozen concussions dating back to high school or whenever he started playing. (another slot receiver that played with Manning with concussion issues)

if he wants to continue to play, not wise for him to say he suffered at least a dozen concussions since high school and talking about the one at ULL where he couldn't see the scoreboard because it was all blurry but still went back in the game. I would retire but the damage is probably already done, he is saying he is living for now, and something about who cares what happens 5 to 10 years down the line. His dad died at 66 and suffered from Alzheimer's, which is something that increases you getting it from concussions, his dad played qb at LSU.

Thanks dwid. I had forgotten about Walter. He's had a few good seasons in Houston. I hope he can recover from his injury and play next year. I wonder if there are any other WR's/TE's I've missed....closing in on the top 250? (365)

Walter, HOU. 356
Miller, SEA. 317
Nelson, GB. 284
Hartline, MIA. 250
Gronkowski, NE. 226, ....really sucks that he is injured again:frusty:
Decker, DEN. 206

 

[dwid]

So you think Manning makes poorly judged throws that get his slot receivers injured?

not necessarily, but I am wondering why this is happening, it doesn't seem to be coincidence, best bet is how the slot receiver is used in their offense

This is his favorite play


The outside receiver runs 5 yards deep and comes inside, and the slot guy goes about 10 to 12 yards, perhaps its a good distance for dbs and linebackers to get enough steam to tee off on the slot guy

It is mixed up though with options based on coverage



It looks like its the perfect way for the the nickelback or linebacker and safety to tee off, kind of sandwiching the guy in there. I'd have to look at the plays the slot guy got a concussion on though. Welker looked like he just "reaggravated" the first one last week (the sooner you come back to the more prone you are to another one)

I wouldn't say poorly judged, you expect the slot guy to be tough, and it has mostly been a White guy for Manning, whether it be Stokley, Collie, White, or Dallas Clark split out (who has a bigger frame to better take hits). He ran similar concepts at Newman when he first started, with his brother Cooper playing the slot with him, before that Newman ran mostly 2 receiver sets, then they started running 3 and 4 receiver sets with his brother being the slot guy, with most of the targets going his way. Not sure who was the slot guy after Cooper graduated but most likely a White kid.

It would just be nice to see Welker used more like he was with New England, getting about half of his yards after the catch. His yac is down somewhat which means less room to run, so probably more defenders hitting him right after the catch, perhaps with less time to adjust, he never seemed to get injured with New England besides the knee tear, always minimizing the big hit, so it does make me curious as to why he has gotten a concussion his first year with Manning.

Its not just Manning though, its just closer to the old way slot guys were used, like Wayne Chrebet, who was expected to go across the middle, get the snot knocked out of him and come back for the next play. New England took a new approach to utilize the slot guy more effectively as we saw with Welker, I just wish that would have translated over, but with DT and Decker on the outside, I don't see them changing.

 

[dwid]

Thanks dwid. I had forgotten about Walter. He's had a few good seasons in Houston. I hope he can recover from his injury and play next year. I wonder if there are any other WR's/TE's I've missed....closing in on the top 250? (365)

Walter, HOU. 356
Miller, SEA. 317
Nelson, GB. 284
Hartline, MIA. 250
Gronkowski, NE. 226, ....really sucks that he is injured again:frusty:
Decker, DEN. 206

I think that you got most of them, if not all, there is Brent Celek with 305 but with the amount of tight ends they have and how many receptions he has I don't know.

 

[Booth]

Greg Olsen announces he was leaving the Panthers not sure if he continues playing football or pursues other opportunities.

 

[Don Wassall]

Olsen is being heavily recruited to be a football analyst. He's been dabbling in that direction the past few years and is very impressive, well-spoken and quite knowledgeable and articulate. I'd like to see him keep playing if his health is good, but if he retires we'll still be seeing him, which is far better than hearing yet another affirmative action hire whose lack of command of English is embarrassing. Not all black analysts fall into that category, but a lot do and of course the (((sports media))) obviously wants a certain amount of English-deficient on-air talent.

 

[dwid]

Would love to see him go to the Saints

 

[icsept]

He hasn’t been healthy for a few seasons. I figured he was done. Maybe he’ll play for the Patriots at a discount.