French Soccer

[frederic38]

I never really thought about this until now but it just occurred to me....when do you ever see black players scoring from free kicks? It's always non-black players that are the best free kick takers throughout history.

David Beckham
Cristiano Ronaldo
Andrea Pirlo
Juninho Pernambucano
Diego Forlan
Alessandro Del Piero
Riquelme
Wesley Sneijder
Robin Van Persie
Steven Gerrard
Xavi

The only blacks I can think of were Brazilians (so not fully black): Ronaldinho and Roberto Carlos. And Roberto Carlos' free kicks were never finesse shots. He would just smash the ball from long range and get lucky on some of them.

now it seems that since the ball is too light it's almost impossible to take a free kick over the wall
you'll never see a black player do this now

other players good at free kicks: david luiz now (cristiano ronaldo impersonation) and lionel messi who has added freekicks to his game, like shevchenko in his time
the best free kicks takers i have seen were juninho (a free kick was like a penalty for him) and beckham: perfect technique,body balance, so beautiful

 

[frederic38]

great goal by grenier from lyon against real madrid (pre-season friendly match):

[video=dailymotion;x1293l6]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1293l6_clement-grenier-amazing-goal-vs-real-madrid-lyon-vs-real-madrid_sport[/video]

french international

(by the way benzema is already looking very bad in those pre season friendlies, real madrid fans are worried)

 

[frederic38]

griezmann's goal against the club that refused him for being too small when he was 14 and forced him to go in spain to turn pro:

[video=dailymotion;x13zvaq]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13zvaq_лион-0-1-реал-сосьедад-прекрасный-гол-гризманна_sport[/video]

in champions league

notice that i don't talk about the french national team too much, it's because the new coach dider deschamps is turning out to be another domenech, he calls dumb black defensive midlefielders by the dozen and snubs almost all the good white players

read this thread for example to get a sample of deschamp's idiotic choices:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/community/...©orgie-france-et-biélorussie-france.1993064/

samples:

Antoine Griezmann
Morgan Schneiderlin
Jonathan Schmid


Jonathan picked up the assist for Hofler's late equaliser. vs bayern today ! plus is an amazing winger and even wing back !
Antonine is amazing with dribbling /goals
Morgan is great box to box/holding midfielder

Gignac needs a call up 2
Gourcuff needs a call up 2
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No Gourcuff? He's been pretty much player of the match when Lyon win, and even in their losses he and Grenier are their best players on the pitch. But hey, it would make too much sense. Something Im beginning to believe Deschamps is lacking in.
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Mickaël Landreau
Josuha Guilavogui
Moussa Sissoko
Etienne Capoue
Geoffrey Kondogbia
Eliaquim Mangala
Bacary Sagna
Dimitri Payet

WTF !!!
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Kondogbia? Guillovogui? Sissoko? ( I'm a NUFC supporter and I'm still thinking WTF???!!!) And Gourcuff still has to prove himself? What a load of f***ing s***!!

i agree THERE ARE UNPROVEN in there clubs and already caped with France why are they being picked ?!!?!??!? WE NEED FRESH FACES!

my brother told me today he misses Raymond Domenech so i told him i miss Bush ! all joking aside i really want to see our midfield be used the right way
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do you think there are enough defensive midfielders didier?
i have a friend who's a bouncer and he's pretty tall and strong, maybe i should give didier his number so he can call him along with kondogbia, pogba, mangala,caprout, guilavogi, sissoko ect

(this one is me :icon_wink: )

benzema's last goal in the french national team:

http://youtu.be/v6pQs08IhnY

but some rumors in the scientific community say that we might get a distorted vision of events this old, since back then men didn't write things yet, everything was transmitted orally from generation to generation
an archeologist found some very strange paintings on the walls of a cave in algeria
those paintings date back to the time when men had just developed opposable thumb
they could represent what is thought to be benzema's last goal in the french national team
and it was a tap-in

(this one is me too :thumb

 

[frederic38]

france has been scoreless in the last 5 games
it has never happenned before
ofcourse benzema is responsible, but for me the biggest factor is the come back of the black security guards in great quantity
it's the biggest difference between deschamps and laurent blanc, who had a much whiter team and much better results

about benzema:

-worst striker in the history of the euro champs (official stat, 0 goals in 2 euro champs )
-0 goals in an official tournament with france
-not a single great match in 60 matches played with france (the best one i can recall was against bosnia)
-1216 minutes without scoring, 15 matches
nobody has ever done that
he now has more matches without scoring than legendary clown djibril cissé, but cissé wasn't a titular, and he hadn't played near the half of benzema's 1216 minutes without scoring
(djibril cissé had 14 matches without scoring, but only 399 minutes without scoring)

so benzema is now officially the worst french striker ever, both regarding matches played without scoring (cissé had the record) and minutes played without scoring (he is on another planet with his 1216 minutes)

for the record i think that djibril cissé and others were worse than benzema, but the difference is that when they started playing badly, they went on the bench, while benzma is still, to this day, a titular
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some posts about this match against georgia on bigsoccer by french fans (not me):

. I'm tired of this vision of football whose perfect representant is Deschamps and is symbolized by the presence of Sissoko and Guilavogui in the midfied, two players without intelligence, technical qualities that are supposed to bring their strength yet they got beat during the whole match by the number 18 on the Georgian side.

Sissoko and Guilavogui playing together was like watching two 18-wheelers trying to compete at a Formula 1 event.

 

[Liverlips]

Is it possible France will not qualify for the World Cup?

 

[frederic38]

Is it possible France will not qualify for the World Cup?

we will finish second position of our group (behind spain), and we will have to win a playoff against a second place finisher from another group to go to the world cup: it could be portugal, russia, england ect

look at the groups and the potential second place finishers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)

the teams we would face (based on the FIFA ranking - we would face only teams placed above us in the FIFA ranking) would be bosnia, croatia, russia, greece, portugal, england
one of these teams
if france plays with the same kind of team that they did against georgia, i think that they can only win against bosnia

 

[frederic38]

something that was sent to me about france's midfielders:

M'Vila, Diaby, Lassana Diarra, and now Guilavogui and Kondogbia have all been discredited. Next up should be Pogba and Sissoko.

Guilavogui has only played 2 minutes for Atletico Madrid this season! Atletico prefers to use other midfielders, so there's no room for him. They paid €10m for a bench-warmer.

Monaco paid €20m for Kondogbia, but he is playing nowhere close to a player with such a high transfer fee... His defending is nothing special and his passing is weak.
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/91978/

Guilavogui and Kondogbia are such **** that even Deschamps was forced to drop them from Les Bleus.

How can Deschamps justify selecting Moussa Sissoko? His defending is very poor and doesn't offer much going forward. And can Deschamps continue to leave out Schneiderlin when Southampton are playing so much better than Newcastle?

We've talked about Toulalan a lot. Another player Les Bleus would benefit from is Flamini - just look at how important he has been for Arsenal.

i personally will be rooting for ukraine in the ukraine-france playoff for the qualification to the 2014 world cup
the french team has been affected again by off the pitch scandals, like an evra interview that made a lot of people feel hate for the french national team:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24604591

it's the same black guy who was responsible for the 2010 fiasco and was banned from the french national team
he's a useless fullback, he could be replaced by anybody, but for some reason he keeps being called
the only explanation that i have at this point is that he might have done a pact with the devil

 

[ThePhilosopher]

something that was sent to me about france's midfielders:



i personally will be rooting for ukraine in the ukraine-france playoff for the qualification to the 2014 world cup
the french team has been affected again by off the pitch scandals, like an evra interview that made a lot of people feel hate for the french national team:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24604591

it's the same black guy who was responsible for the 2010 fiasco and was banned from the french national team
he's a useless fullback, he could be replaced by anybody, but for some reason he keeps being called
the only explanation that i have at this point is that he might have done a pact with the devil

Jews,Frederic,JEWS!!

 

[ThePhilosopher]

Michael Cox on France.

Some A grade BS spouted by Cox here.

The gems:

In particular, the midfield combination of Juventus' Paul Pogba and Geoffrey Kondogbia, looks capable of dominating the national side for a lengthy period.

Yup Coxxy,we all remember Yann M'Vila and Alou Diarra.

There's also Real Madrid's Raphael Varane, surely the most competent centre-back of his age anywhere in the world

Sorry Coxxy,i'll take Nastasic or even that mutt Marquinhos.

Similarly, when Serbia suddenly produced a raft of talented tennis players five years ago, Ana Ivanovic's explanation was: “I don't think anyone knows ... we didn't have perfect facilities, we didn't have too many good coaches, the tennis federation wasn't so supportive, the times were tough and there weren't so many sponsors.â€￾

With whites,it happens,Coxxy.

Perhaps the truth is that Valbuena, Koscielny and Giroud went unnoticed because they weren't physically impressive at a young age. There remains a great focus upon power, physicality and explosive pace among the French youth sides -- it's not difficult to imagine that a playmaker based around clever positioning, a technical but slender centre-back and a slow, rather one-footed striker didn't stand out among others.

This,Coxxy,is where the jews come in.

If Varane, Pogba and Kondogbia will inevitably be called the golden generation, perhaps we can declare the likes of Valbuena, Giroud and Koscielny as football's first-ever silver generation.

Silver has a greater value than Gold,then.

 

[frederic38]

very interesting article

Look at the current side, for example, and you'll find a raft of players who developed into top-quality footballers extremely late. Olivier Giroud was 24 during his first Ligue 1 campaign, and the same is true of his Arsenal teammate Laurent Koscielny. In fact, they played together in Ligue 2 at Tours.

Similarly, the wonderfully gifted Mathieu Valbuena was playing in the third division at 22, and only a Ligue 1 regular at 24. Right-back Rod Fanni was playing on loan at second division Chateauroux at 24, and while centre-back Adil Rami made his Ligue 1 debut at 21, before that he'd been an amateur, playing in the fourth division and working for the local government part-time. Mathieu Debuchy is another who came to prominence late on.

all are whites except fanni ( 5 caps with france ) and rami, who is arab
he also forgot about ribery, the best french player and a player who could win the ballon d'or award this year, who was an amateur player until 21 (fanni turned pro in 1999 at 18 years old)
so ribery is even worse, because he wasn't even suposed to be a professional

in the current youth national team, there is also griezmann who only managed to turn pro because he moved to spain without his parents at 14 years old after being refused by french clubs
also knockaert was refused by french club rc lens and had to go back to amateur football until getting noticed again

in the recent past, i also remember 2 whites who were called in the french national team: eric carriere, who turned pro at 24 years old, and steve savidan, who was in a non-professional team at 26 years old (he worked as a waste collector and bartender)
he had to stop his career after his first call in the french national team because of a heart disease

Over the border in France, something slightly different is happening. Following their success at this summer's U-20 World Cup in Turkey, the French can be assured that they have an extremely gifted generation of young talent coming through. In particular, the midfield combination of Juventus' Paul Pogba and Geoffrey Kondogbia, who moved from Sevilla to Monaco after the tournament, looks capable of dominating the national side for a lengthy period.

There's also Real Madrid's Raphael Varane, surely the most competent centre-back of his age anywhere in the world, while Marseille's Florian Thauvin, Saint Etienne's Kurt Zouma and Lyon's Clement Grenier also look highly promising. Four of these five players first represented France at U-16 level before steadily working their way up the youth ranks. Thauvin only started in the U-18s, but the idea remains the same -- France have cultivated these players from an extremely early age. It's the typical way to produce a winning side.

amongst the players he names, interestingly the only non-defensive players are non-blacks
thauvin is as dumb as a rock, so the expectations about him have lowered a lot
especially since in france we are used to having talented youth sides that doesn't translate into a talented senior national team (generation 87, and the generation who won the U17 world cup for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_FIFA_U-17_World_Championship_squads#.C2.A0France as you can see, all these names are very familiar to every soccer fan around the world now :icon_rolleyes: )
a big part of the reason why france have good youth teams that don't translate into good senior national teams (like the african teams) is what i said about youth tournaments in general: blacks manage to do better in these tournaments because they mature physically earlier
pogba and kondogongbia for example have nothing more than physical strenght, so nothing special (the ones who think that pogba is skilled )

 

[Freethinker]

Frederic, you're being too harsh on Pogba. He has Balotelli-esque skills. Like Mario, he's capable of receiving a yellow card one minute after another. I'm sure he has a bright future.....or at least a bright smile.

 

[frederic38]

Frederic, you're being too harsh on Pogba. He has Balotelli-esque skills. Like Mario, he's capable of receiving a yellow card one minute after another. I'm sure he has a bright future.....or at least a bright smile.

pogba is the new balotelli, interestingly both failed in england and went to the degenerating italian serie A

at least kondogonbia or whatever his name is is being discredited right now:

The €20 million signing Kondogbia only played 30 seconds versus Lyon...

He can't even displace the Arab midfielder Obbadi, who has spent his whole career in Ligue 2 and cost Monaco only €1 million.

he needs to move to serie A and he'll be able to pretend that he's one of the best players in the world :icon_grin:

 

[ThePhilosopher]

pogba is the new balotelli, interestingly both failed in england and went to the degenerating italian serie A

at least kondogonbia or whatever his name is is being discredited right now:


he needs to move to serie A and he'll be able to pretend that he's one of the best players in the world :icon_grin:

20 million?for a security guard?:noidea:

 

[frederic38]

20 million?for a security guard?:noidea:

yes, i've been very disapointed with the way as monaco spend their money
they won't be a dangerous team for SPG who haven't lost a game yet this season


pogba scored a regular goal with juventus and look at his celebration:

http://youtu.be/Cc2R_7vImYs

it comes from here:

[video=youtube_share;xX4Pxiwti4E]http://youtu.be/xX4Pxiwti4E[/video]

"les singes viennent de sortir du zoo" = the monkeys just broke out of the zoo
i have too much admiration for the power of the gorillas to compare them with monkeys
and the gorillas don't have fat, unlike this guy


so pogba is my most hated player right now
in france the medias are all over him
it makes me happy to see juventus' resutls getting bad now that pogba gets a more important role

and griezmann has scored 7 goals in the spanish league in 10 games, including 5 in the last 3
we will be able to call him in the french national team after the 1st of january
if he doesn't get a call it would be unacceptable

 

[ThePhilosopher]

pogba scored a regular goal with juventus and look at his celebration:

http://youtu.be/Cc2R_7vImYs

Not a regular goal,Frederic...a tap-in...the only kind of goals Blacks and Benzema score.

so pogba is my most hated player right now
in france the medias are all over him
it makes me happy to see juventus' resutls getting bad now that pogba gets a more important role

Pogba's luck will run out pretty soon,and we'll be discussing him in the black flops thread in the not too distant future.

 

[frederic38]

Pogba's luck will run out pretty soon,and we'll be discussing him in the black flops thread in the not too distant future.

he's already in it
because going from the english premier league to the bankrupt league is not a big accomplishment, like balotelli who flopped in manchester city and then everybody though that he was back because he scored a few goals in the bankrupt league

 

[ThePhilosopher]

he's already in it

Omg!Great one!:dance:

 

[frederic38]

saint etienne's loic perrin:

the best french defender during that past 2 years has been loic perrin, yet he has never been called in the french national team, and the media never mention him as a potential french international
the media love to talk about varane at real madrid, thiago silva in PSG, etc
but they never talk about loic perrin, yet last season saint etienne had the 2nd best defense after the untouchable PSG (and no, it wasn't because of kurt zouma)

in 2013 he had the best duels won percentage in europe: 73.8%
better than thiago silva, and the rest of the defenders in europe

if saint etienne is so good right now it's thaks to him (and because of the fact that they start usually 8-9 whites, one of the whiteest teams in the league)

 

[ThePhilosopher]

saint etienne's loic perrin:

the best french defender during that past 2 years has been loic perrin, yet he has never been called in the french national team, and the media never mention him as a potential french international
the media love to talk about varane at real madrid, thiago silva in PSG, etc
but they never talk about loic perrin, yet last season saint etienne had the 2nd best defense after the untouchable PSG (and no, it wasn't because of kurt zouma)

in 2013 he had the best duels won percentage in europe: 73.8%
better than thiago silva, and the rest of the defenders in europe

if saint etienne is so good right now it's thaks to him (and because of the fact that they start usually 8-9 whites, one of the whiteest teams in the league)

Such things boil my blood.
Of course,if he was a black.....
Also,Antonie Griezmann also falls in the same category.
He's excelled for Real Sociedad but can't get a mention in the press,while Loic Remy who got relegated with QPR gets to play in the national team.

 

[frederic38]

Such things boil my blood.
Of course,if he was a black.....
Also,Antonie Griezmann also falls in the same category.
He's excelled for Real Sociedad but can't get a mention in the press,while Loic Remy who got relegated with QPR gets to play in the national team.

that's why french soccer is so interesting

about saint etienne, i knew that they would do well this season because their coach asked the club to stop recruiting african players
see, it works

 

[ThePhilosopher]

that's why french soccer is so interesting

about saint etienne, i knew that they would do well this season because their coach asked the club to stop recruiting african players
see, it works

What?
Is he a Nazi?:smokin:
Wasn't he lynched by the jewish press?:kev:

 

[frederic38]

What?
Is he a Nazi?:smokin:
Wasn't he lynched by the jewish press?:kev:

it's an insider info never really released in the mainstream media

 

[ThePhilosopher]

it's an insider info never really released in the mainstream media

He's an intelligent man.
A few coaches would of course be privy to the "Caste System",but not one has the balls to stand up to it.

Also,who has replaced Aubemeyang in St.Etienne?

 

[frederic38]

He's an intelligent man.
A few coaches would of course be privy to the "Caste System",but not one has the balls to stand up to it.

Also,who has replaced Aubemeyang in St.Etienne?

nobody really replaced him, saint etienne don't need him, they are doing better without him
the mixed brazilian brandao usually plays as a striker
he's physical, unspectacular
the other non-white player is usually bayall sall the security guard, and romain hamouma who looks white but is partly algerian

 

[ThePhilosopher]

nobody really replaced him, saint etienne don't need him, they are doing better without him
the mixed brazilian brandao usually plays as a striker
he's physical, unspectacular
the other non-white player is usually bayall sall the security guard, and romain hamouma who looks white but is partly algerian

Hamouma souns muslim alright.
Overall,that looks a pretty white team!
Well,for the French Ligue atleast.