Freedom and WN

[White Shogun]

On many of the political threads here in Happy Hour, the discussion often turns to WN as a movement, and as a corollary to that, the support, or lack thereof, that a particular politician will lend to that movement.

I know many of you are looking for a politician to be outspoken in his support of white people, or even to publicly support WN.

I don't think that is going to happen. I think it's unrealistic for anyone to expect a mainstream politician to do so and expect to be elected to office, at almost any level of government.

What we have to hope for, and work for, is a return to a government based on the Constitution. A government that supports FREEDOM more than any other political ideology. A government that permits freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom from conscription, confiscatory taxes, less involvement in foreign wars, and private forms of welfare, to name a few.

If we are truly ever free again, the rest of it will work itself out by natural processes.

The truth is, we don't need a PRO-white government to excel; what we need is a government that does not LIMIT the freedom of man to live his life, to own a business free of government interference, to freely associate with whomever he chooses, to not have his speech or actions proscribed by a tyrannical government Hell-bent on political correctness.

That's what I am hoping and praying for - just freedom.

Just freedom.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Good post Shogun! Freedom is definitely the key to it all.

 

[C Darwin]

I wouldn't trust a mainstream WN movement anyway. Know what I mean?

 

[Don Wassall]

WS, I agree with you. Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney came together at a press conference in September and agreed on a basic freedom platform. If racially conscious whites ever want to get out of the ghetto we've been put in by the system we are going to have to compromise and be part of a broader coalition. Pursuing a consistent freedom agenda is the only peaceful and productive way out of the mess the power structure has made of the U.S. Freedom means among other things freedom of association and we need to be part of the newlyforming opposition and fight for our placein it.

 

[White_Savage]

Shogun, brilliant.

Unfortunately, some in the Pro White movement have an unhealthy level of fetishism for the 1940s German authoritarianism. Does it make any sense to emulate the culture the White nation that lost WWII rather than the one who won it?

 

[Observer]

I think it's unrealistic for anyone to expect a mainstream politician to do so and expect to be elected to office, at almost any level of government.

What we have to hope for, and work for, is a return to a government based on the Constitution. A government that supports FREEDOM ...

I think it's unrealistic for anyone to expect a government that is bound by the Constitution and that supports freedom. Paleo-conservatives and even neo-cons usually see this as an option, but what reason is there to think that a constitutionally-based free system is any more realistic than a more radical solution? Sure, you'll get lip service from the politicians, but lips are not necessarily strong instruments to break chains.

Whether we like it or not, we are in a new world order. It is my opinion that -- whether we like it or not --- we will wake up one morning and realize we are now under a monarchial system. The only question is whether this monarch will by a tyrant with a name like Goldman, Sachs, or Rothschild; or whether he will be a good King Louis or Richard.

 

[White Shogun]

I think it's unrealistic for anyone to expect a government that is bound by the Constitution and that supports freedom.

I'm not giving up the fight yet. If I could, I'd change my screen name to WILLIAM WALLACE:

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And, I go to make sure that they have it.

-BraveheartEdited by: White Shogun

 

[jaxvid]

Nothing good will come from a plan to increase freedom joined intowith our enemies. Freedom itself is a white concept and is not recognized by most of the rest of the world, certainly not the people coming into this country.


Blacks in America have been raised for many generations under the ideas of enlightenment concepts of freedom, they have acquired none of the instincts for it because those instincts are natural and part of a person. Blacks are completely for the tribe, as are Mexicans, Asians, and others streaming into this country. The ideas of freedom are very weak in women of all races. The time has past to expect such a thing to happen.


The best that can be expected is a rising white consciousness resulting from minority status and fading wealth. What form that takes is anybodies guess but there will be no race neutral pro-freedom movement to join. It will not be peaceful or productive but merely a continuation of the struggle to live that has always been part of the human existance. Either that or extiction.

 

[White Shogun]

It will not be peaceful or productive but merely a continuation of the struggle to live that has always been part of the human existance. Either that or extiction.

War or extinction... well, the way I see it, if those things are inevitable, there isn't anything I can do about it. But right now I can still try to hold back the tide. I'm going to plug as many holes in the dike as I can, and hope others will do the same. If I'm over run, so be it.. I'm ready for a fight, anyway.

Pray for peace, prepare for war.

 

[foreverfree]

I wouldn't trust a mainstream WN movement anyway. Know what I mean?

No. Enlighten me, Mr. Darwin.

John