everyone please help the klitschkos
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White_Savage
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Pugnus, I don't know whether you are a ******* who is so insecure he can't stand to see even ONE white boxing champion, or a white fan who has been brainwashed, or simply a troll getting your jollies on this forum.
The fact remains that Vitali has never been outfought in the ring. His two losses are due to misfortune. Not whining about it mind you, that's just the way boxing is, but still, you speak as if misfortune is the same as being mastered in the ring. When you consider his personal background along with his boxing career, it's a very interesting story. This man should be getting MORE hype, should be a household name as the most interesting and formidable heavyweight at present. He's not. The reason is insuffecient melanin on his part. You know it and I know it. You accuse others of having "racial" motives...So what? Black success in boxing has been used as a propaganda tool to demean whites for fifty years, why not cheer on the white fighters? It's interesting to note that a white heavyweight champ is EXACTLY whats needed to get the majority of people watching boxing again, yet the majority have not heard of the white heavyweight champ. The media's main agenda of demoralizing and destroying the white man is more important than saving boxing apparently.
But as I say, no (current) white fighter will ever be considered formidable by you, all the ******** he beats will instantly be dubbed wash-outs (Isn't it funny, how the caste system sometimes hurts BLACK fighters as well...), unless we concoct a time machine for him to beat your chosen ******* champions in his "prime"
The fact remains that Vitali has never been outfought in the ring. His two losses are due to misfortune. Not whining about it mind you, that's just the way boxing is, but still, you speak as if misfortune is the same as being mastered in the ring. When you consider his personal background along with his boxing career, it's a very interesting story. This man should be getting MORE hype, should be a household name as the most interesting and formidable heavyweight at present. He's not. The reason is insuffecient melanin on his part. You know it and I know it. You accuse others of having "racial" motives...So what? Black success in boxing has been used as a propaganda tool to demean whites for fifty years, why not cheer on the white fighters? It's interesting to note that a white heavyweight champ is EXACTLY whats needed to get the majority of people watching boxing again, yet the majority have not heard of the white heavyweight champ. The media's main agenda of demoralizing and destroying the white man is more important than saving boxing apparently.
But as I say, no (current) white fighter will ever be considered formidable by you, all the ******** he beats will instantly be dubbed wash-outs (Isn't it funny, how the caste system sometimes hurts BLACK fighters as well...), unless we concoct a time machine for him to beat your chosen ******* champions in his "prime"
PLEAZZEWhite_Savage said:
Vitalis problem is he has no personality not skin color fighting only once a year hurts him more Lewis had the same problem. And besides Vitali did'nt lift the title from Lewis he lost that fight had he won he would be univerally recognized.
To be a popular champ besides skills you need CHARISMA AND PERSONALITY .
Ali had it Dempsey had it Marciano had it Tyson had/has it in his own way.
Vitali Lewis Holmes Tunney NEVER had it .
The claim that Vitali is being held back because of his skin color is BS.
And b.t.w i Have Tzyu a white fighter in my P4P top 3and at the moment i would pick him against Floyd at 140 but i am just ''prejudiced'' against white fighters right ?.
If Vitali wants to be a popular champ he either learns how to sell himself better or fights more often.
Yes you are prejudiced against white fighters but that's your problem.If Vitali was black he'd be your hero.He was born in another nation,speaks English better than most blacks born here.Also if he were black he'd be all over the TV screen selling everything.
I speak English Nigerian Dutch & a little spanish.Gary said:
No Vitali cant sell anything he does'nt have the personality to do it. And being able to speak 3 languages is'nt going to change that.
Vitali cant even sell a good PPV. And HWS are supposed to bring in the most money..
Vitali has the charisma of a dead dog to put it bluntly .
So you speak Nigerian?That is very interesting because there is no language called Nigerian!If you're going to lie at least do some research.According to the World Almanac and book of facts-the offical language of Nigeria is English!The other dialects are Hausa,Yoruba,Igbo and Fulani!Now 6 months ago you were godking and were banned,now your pugnus.Do you have any class at all?If America needed a black secret agent I am glad we had Bill Cosby and not you.So we caught you in a lie-you have been banned once.Do you have any character at all?
Gary,it's possible the Pugnacious one has made a valid point about Vitali's lack of personality. Nobody cares how many languages he speaks or how many degrees he's earned. On the other hand Mike Tyson is loaded with charisma. He's been in the news for assaulting people, has beaten up women and served jail time for rape!He's made millions and millions of dollars but is virtually broke due to the fact of being an idiot withthe verbal skills and IQ of a chimpanzee. Poor Vitali, how can he compete?He's never even tried to eat someone's ear in the ring and certainly doesn't have Tyson'sAfrican good looks.
Vitali wouldbe by far the biggest draw in the HW division since Ali if he were marketed more effectively. They should use the race card like it was successfully used to hype the Holmes-Cooney fight. Unfortunetly I think the media is afraid to do this as Vitali is so dominate that it might be viewed as some sort of racism
. I think most people are sick and tired of the so-called "charisma" that the media and people like pugnus drool over. The Ali wannabe acts have been going on for decades and its gotten boring. Most white sports fans I know are sick of the braggadocios modern athlete with the copy-cat charisma the media is so crazy about. White people are the majority of the paying fans. If you want "charisma" watch professional wrestling, I want to see a fight. Charisma is "BS" - there is a long list of champions who were as popular as ever who never had so-called charisma. I suppose trash talking and bragging about speaking Nigerian could be considered charismatic.
. I think most people are sick and tired of the so-called "charisma" that the media and people like pugnus drool over. The Ali wannabe acts have been going on for decades and its gotten boring. Most white sports fans I know are sick of the braggadocios modern athlete with the copy-cat charisma the media is so crazy about. White people are the majority of the paying fans. If you want "charisma" watch professional wrestling, I want to see a fight. Charisma is "BS" - there is a long list of champions who were as popular as ever who never had so-called charisma. I suppose trash talking and bragging about speaking Nigerian could be considered charismatic.
If Vitali was a black American the bigoted anti-white media in this country would be going crazy over him. The Klitschkos have faced much racism since coming to this county including the attempted murder(drugging)of Wlad by Don King when he fought Brewster. It is the sacred duty of all self respecting white poeple to spread the word about the Klitschkos and back them 100%
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He is our favorite boxer here at Caste.Keep us updated
on any news about the Klitschko's. I will keep checking
the official site here and there.I can't wait to see
both Wlad and Vitali get back in the ring again.Count
me as one of their biggest fans.
on any news about the Klitschko's. I will keep checking
the official site here and there.I can't wait to see
both Wlad and Vitali get back in the ring again.Count
me as one of their biggest fans.
Vitali cant be marketed effecetively thats the point even Cooney had the whole ''Irish'' guy next door going . Vitali doest have personality end of discussion.Kaptain Poop said:Vitali wouldbe by far the biggest draw in the HW division since Ali if he were marketed more effectively. They should use the race card like it was successfully used to hype the Holmes-Cooney fight. Unfortunetly I think the media is afraid to do this as Vitali is so dominate that it might be viewed as some sort of racism
. I think most people are sick and tired of the so-called "charisma" that the media and people like pugnus drool over. The Ali wannabe acts have been going on for decades and its gotten boring. Most white sports fans I know are sick of the braggadocios modern athlete with the copy-cat charisma the media is so crazy about. White people are the majority of the paying fans. If you want "charisma" watch professional wrestling, I want to see a fight. Charisma is "BS" - there is a long list of champions who were as popular as ever who never had so-called charisma. I suppose trash talking and bragging about speaking Nigerian could be considered charismatic.
The champions that did'nt have charisma made up for it by fighting more then once a year and beating the cmapns who came before them.
Lets end this repeated lie about Vitali fighting only once a year. He has never had a year where he has only fought once and if black fighters would stop retiring in order to avoid fighting him maybe he would fight more frequently. Try writing in English instead of Ibo or whatever you "claim" to be. It's called spell-check and it's made for guys like you.
Pugnus,let's get serious here.Why do you continue to post on this site? In your opinion the posters here do not know anything about boxing,some of us are sick and somehow you think you're going to change everybody's opinion,not gonna happen.I'm sure you find this site to be very racist as well,so why stick around.Thereareso many boxing message boards around where you can match wits with other members and you wouldn't have to put up with your percieved racism that you feel you get from this site.On top of that you wouldn't have to correct everyone at other sites like you do here,since you know all and we know nothing.Could it be you feel so superior here that it boosts your ego so much that you have become addicted to this site.
I don't mind pugnus, yes he says the same things over and over again but at least he's decent about it. He seems to know a lot about boxing and he is eager to discuss it so, what the hell--let him post. His verbal sparing with some of you guys makes for interesting reading.
White_Savage
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Pugnus:
You just don't understand white people. We ADMIRE a stoic attitude, we LIKE a quiet man who doesn't have much to say and just does his business. Let me tell you a little secret: All these ******** who are popular with whites because they jump around, yell, mouth, and generally show their ass, it's because we're laughing, they're clowns to us. Older and wiser whites eventually realize the joke is being played on them however, and have no use for such antics.
You just don't understand white people. We ADMIRE a stoic attitude, we LIKE a quiet man who doesn't have much to say and just does his business. Let me tell you a little secret: All these ******** who are popular with whites because they jump around, yell, mouth, and generally show their ass, it's because we're laughing, they're clowns to us. Older and wiser whites eventually realize the joke is being played on them however, and have no use for such antics.
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White_Savage said:
Another great observation!
Perhaps it does have something to do with age, as I'm nearing 40 and
don't find any of that type of behavior funny. Matter of fact, its
annoying as hell and becomes even more so the older I get!
And no, it isn't because I just don't GET you, FEEL you, or HEAR WHAT
YOU'RE SAYIN!" I don't know what you mean by "keep it
REAL." As far as I know I keep it REAL everyday; I don't know any
other way.
And just for the record, WTF does "keep it real" mean, anyway??
