ESPN’s Outside the Lines

[Jimmy Chitwood]

did anyone else happen to catch this past Sunday's (August 20, 2006) edition? it focused on the plight of the poor, disappearing black baseball player.

the problem? white people aren't doing enough to make the game "cool" to black kids.

the solution? 1- spend more money and resources to reach out to blacks, and 2- professional organizations should take more chances on black kids because eventually there abilities would allow them to contribute.

not surprisingly, but sadly, no story accompanied the reverse issue of white Americans in the NBA or at the skill positions at high levels of American football.

 

[GWTJ]

ESPN can try all they want to, but blacks won't be back in baseball anytime soon. These things run in cycles and it takes a long time for change to take place.

ESPN failed to point out that MLB already gives affirmative action opportunity to blacks. I'm not sure of the exact percentage but a lot of the blacks on MLB teams are benchwarmers. Just like whites in the NBA. It's all about decreasing the disparity in the numbers for overall perception.

As far as making the game "cool" to blacks, it will never happen. As long as the pitcher can send a 95mph fastball at a batter, hot dogging and showboating will be off limits in baseball.

A movie a few years ago called "Hard Ball" with Keanu Reeves, tried to make black behavior look good on a ball field. It didn't work, and it never will.

One more point, the blacks that do make it to the majors are actually very humble, hard working type athletes. You will never hear or see a black baseball player make a spectacle of himself like a Terrell Owens or Chad Johnson. You will find some crusty personalities(Bonds, Belle, Murray), but crusty comes in all colors.

 

[bigunreal]

Geez, how many "specials" and "news reports" about this "crisis" do we have to be subjected to? For anyone not believing in a vast consiracy out there, how do you explain this kind of obviously coordinated media campaign? But what is most ridiculous about this whole manufactured story is the simple fact that there are more dark faces in Major League Baseball now than there have ever been. As long as no one calls these wimpy jock-sniffers on it, they will continue to categorize africans like David Ortiz as something other than black. It's just amazing, really, that they get away with things as blatantly untrue as this is.

 

[GreatLakeState]

One more point, the blacks that do make it to the majors
are actually very humble, hard working type athletes.

The Tigers' Curtis Granderson comes to mind.

 

[white is right]

ESPN can try all they want to, but blacks won't be back in baseball anytime soon. These things run in cycles and it takes a long time for change to take place.

ESPN failed to point out that MLB already gives affirmative action opportunity to blacks. I'm not sure of the exact percentage but a lot of the blacks on MLB teams are benchwarmers. Just like whites in the NBA. It's all about decreasing the disparity in the numbers for overall perception.

As far as making the game "cool" to blacks, it will never happen. As long as the pitcher can send a 95mph fastball at a batter, hot dogging and showboating will be off limits in baseball.

A movie a few years ago called "Hard Ball" with Keanu Reeves, tried to make black behavior look good on a ball field. It didn't work, and it never will.

One more point, the blacks that do make it to the majors are actually very humble, hard working type athletes. You will never hear or see a black baseball player make a spectacle of himself like a Terrell Owens or Chad Johnson. You will find some crusty personalities(Bonds, Belle, Murray), but crusty comes in all colors.

Yeah eating a high hard one kills off the pea******* routine. It almost makes me wonder why a safety or linebacker wouldn't closeline a Owens after a td dance, I definately would if his routine was more obscence then normal 15 yards or being thrown out of the game is worth the message........Edited by: white is right

 

[White Shogun]

It almost makes me wonder why a safety or linebacker wouldn't closeline a Owens after a td dance, I definately would if his routine was more obscence then normal 15 yards or being thrown out of the game is worth the message........

Didn't Roy Williams get fined and / or suspended for a game for trying to knock Terrell Owens off the star in Dallas? Owens celebrated a TD, not once, but twice, by running to the middle of the field and dancing on the Dallas logo. The second time, (I think it was him) Williams ran up and tried to take Owen's head off. Memory fails but I believe nothing happened to Owens but Williams was suspended for a game. Anyone recall the incident and the results?

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Speaking of Bonds, I heard a radio interview the other day on Sports 56 out of Memphis where a guy who sets up book, card, and memorabilia signings with pro athletes and also just published a baseball trivia book that is bigger than any ever done, and he said Barry Bonds is one of the most despicable human beings he has ever met. He gave some examples of it, including refusing to sign the sweet spot of a baseball for a kid after he had waited over 2 hours to get it signed. The crazy thing was, Bonds was paid 100K to sit there and sign stuff for 3 hours. The guy went on to say that Willie Mays was the same way. He also said that Bonds was jealous of McGwire and Sosa in 98 and thats why he started juicing big time.

 

[Don Wassall]

Didn't Roy Williams get fined and / or suspended for a game for trying to knock Terrell Owens off the star in Dallas? Owens celebrated a TD, not once, but twice, by running to the middle of the field and dancing on the Dallas logo. The second time, (I think it was him) Williams ran up and tried to take Owen's head off. Memory fails but I believe nothing happened to Owens but Williams was suspended for a game. Anyone recall the incident and the results?

I don't know if Williams was punished, but Steve Mariucchi suspended Owens for the next 49ers game, surprising given "Mooch's" tolerance of his star receiver's infantile mindset.


Not only Williams but the entire Dallas team should have gone after Owens. In fact, Owens' own teammates should have gone after him after the game in the locker room. The kind of crap that goes on now never used to before the NFL began pandering to black "culture" and mores.

 

[bigunreal]

The Terrell Owens of the world are only possible because of the media. Down to his stupid (and typical black) nickname, the jock-sniffers in our mainstream press scrutinize this mentally deranged clown's every stupid move, and record every stupid word he utters. He is like a hyperactive, six year old troublemaker (and probably at the same intellectual level) who demands constant attention. Unlike any good first-grade teacher, the lame, wannabe comedians on ESPN simply cannot contain themselves- he'd stop acting up if they'd just ignore him.

 

[voice]

Big Unreal,

Interesting observation about Owens acting like a 6 year old.

It really struck me when looking at IQ and realizing how psychometricians look at IQ. They apply it to mental age. I would guess that Owens has an IQ around 80(with black avg of 85) so he is just under black mean IQ level.This would translate to a mental age of 11-12 years old!

For all those readers who have trouble grasping how blacks seem so talkative and "normal" and have trouble relating this to their low IQ and not the history of repression holding them down. Please read article by Phillippe Rushton author of "Race,Evolution and Behaviour".This is a great and brief explanation of blacks mental capabilities.

http://www.vdare.com/misc/rushton_iq_conundrum.htmEdited by: voice

 

[Guest]

The hosts of any ESPN show make prison girlfriends look manly. Just look at any cover of their awful magazine and tell me its not gay porn. Even the bros laugh and ridicule them for being what they are soft pudgy receptacles.

 

[speedster]

It was actually George Teague who put Owens on his rump.

 

[White Shogun]

It was actually George Teague who put Owens on his rump.

Thanks for the correction. I remember thinking, as Don alluded, that the entire Dallas team should have stormed the field to beat Owens down.

 

[C Darwin]

The human interest stories told by ESPN fall on strict Caste System
rules. Today's OTL show was a perfect example. The show had two
parts; the first was on an O-lineman named Brent Boyd from the
early 80's who is suffering from head injuries that he sustained
from his playing days and struggling to obtain disability. The
second part of the show was on John Amaechi and the release of his
new book.

On the surface, one might think that ESPN might actually be looking
out in the best interest of this white, ex-NFL player. We all know that
this cannot be possible. Being the masochist that I am, I regularly
watch this show to observe the propaganda that is shoveled at the
American population. Part of the point of this show was to expose
the NFL for doctor shopping to avoid disability payments. Not using
a black for loosening the rules for disability was probably a good
move on their part. But this story also fits into a disturbing trend
that I have noticed. My hypothesis is that ESPN human interest
stories as a rule shows whites as unhealthy and blacks as victims of
circumstance.

If the topics have to do with debilitation, birth defects, autism, or
catastrophic injury, white males are disproportionately represented
in these stories. Whereas stories of hardship, poverty, family
dysfunction, prejudice, racism, or violence, the center of the story
will revolve around a female, gay, or a person that is not of European
decent.

Watch for this trend. It's quite disturbing to me. I don't think I'm
nuts. Edited by: C Darwin

 

[East European]

Interesting post by C.DARWIN i can see where your going and i think i've notced similar trends. real quick back to the top posts, Milton Bradley comes to mind as obnoxious. oh yeah and addressing why there is a lack of blacks coming up playing baseball from an early age. Ionce saw a PBSsemi-puff piece on it, they interviewed an old time, elderly black player guy and he said the young inner-city kids are basically scared of a hard white baseball coming at them. that simple.


P.S. itmade me think of all those murders with guns, you know this deep fear of an inner-courage or something.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

ESPN seems to always have a pinko, pantywaist edge to it. That whole argument of appeasing "poor, downtrodden African-Americans" into playing baseball is standard liberal horsepuckey!

Regarding that woodpile T-YO, I'd have loved to seen
ol' Chuck Cecil lay one of his vintage helmet-to-helmet shots on that obnoxious sob!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_CecilEdited by: DixieDestroyer

 

[cslewis1]

interesting link about Chuck Cecil. Is he a caste guy or what with Tennessee? Anyone know?

 

[Weltner]

ESPN seems to always have a pinko, pantywaist edge to it. That whole argument of appeasing "poor, downtrodden African-Americans" into playing baseball is standard liberal horsepuckey!




Seems to have?Always has had it,thoroughout it's 28 year history, and always will.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Chuck Cecil is currently DB coach for the Titans. That mean, little sumbitch could certainly lay a stick in his day.

 

[Tired old White]

Another reason blacks may not succeed at baseball SABERMETRICS. Baseball is the chosen sports of statisticians .In short , hype will only take you so far because some where out there there is math genius analyzing your performace in hard mathematical terms. You can talk trash but you cannot hide.

 

[East European]

Very Good.

 

[Baseball Fan]

One more point, the blacks that do make it to the majors
are actually very humble, hard working type athletes.

The Tigers' Curtis Granderson comes to mind.

Yeah he reminds of a young Mookie Wilson, though Mookie was a little more patient.

 

[C Darwin]

This is the second week on a row where ESPN has decided to
showcase white people with health afflictions.

REBONDING

George Karl has coached roughly 1,500 NBA games, spanning three
decades and five franchises. Scouting, coaching and living a life
defined by travel and change. But last spring, George Karl made a
trip he wished he never had to make: to Idaho, to help his ailing son,
Coby, a guard on the Boise State Broncos, recover from thyroid
cancer. George Karl, who recovered from prostate cancer in 2005,
went to spend time with his son -- something a NBA coach and his
child rarely get a chance to do.

This constant imagery and storytelling of whites as unhealthy is
surely going to have an effect on the sheep that watch this
propaganda. The icing on the cake was how they brought the
daughter into the picture. Sure, I understand how her view can bring
perspective to the storyline. She also is a coach for a high school
basketball team where she shares the responsibilities with her
husband. And guess what? He's black. They splashed his image on
the screen three times during the segment. Why? The storyline is
how there is barely enough time for the kid and his dad to get
together, why is so much exposure given to an in-law? I believe it is
a juxtaposition of two white males with health afflictions and an
interracial couple with no health problems. My hypothesis is that this
is intentional.

Any random internet viewer might read this post and think I have
some problem with interracial marriage. They would be wrong and
completely missed my point.

Also: Who was Bill Thomas from BC and drafted by the Cowboys in
71'? I'm guessing he's was a white running back. Why would I
assume that? Bob Ryan from the Boston Globe just trashed him on
The Sports Reporters implying that he could be knocked over by
merely blowing on him.

 

[Don Wassall]

This constant imagery and storytelling of whites as unhealthy is
surely going to have an effect on the sheep that watch this
propaganda.

Another up-is-down, good-is-bad portrayal by the media as blacks are afflicted with health problems far more often than whites. It's a shame what happened to Damian Nash, the running back who died yesterday at 24, but the overwhelming number of athletes who die suddenly at very young ages are black.


Stories about retired, older black athletes almost always detail various ailments and diseases. And the average black male dies at asignificantly younger age than the average white man.

 

[C Darwin]

Just watched a story on sports center about a white DIII running back
afflicted with Lou Gehrig's disease. As usual, it fits right in to the
ESPN human interest mold of displaying whites as unhealthy. But
there is a kicker. This guy played in the early 80's. When showing
highlights of him playing, the images were in black and white. I can't
imagine that this DIII team was using black and white film to record
games in the early 80's. I'm guessing the producer had the tapes
edited to make it seem dated for a white to be playing RB.

Sunday's OTL had a story regarding how one very brown Latin
American was a victim of circumstance and was denied entry into the
US by INS.

Caste Human Interest Story continues.