Eric Crouch

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The Frankfurt Sea Devils have Eric Crouch and it appears that he is here to stay. He is having a solid season so far and is starting at SS. PS, the free safety is Shawn Mayer. How 'bout that, two white safeties.

Are they breaking any quotas with that?
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That's good to hear. Mayer was a guy who when he was at Penn State was a tackling machine. In fact, in '02 he led the Big Ten in tackles, which is a tremendous accomplishment for a safety. But he didn't run a 4.38 40or whatever white safeties have to run to be drafted, so he ended up as a free agent special teamer with the Patriots.Mayer deserves a chance to play safety in the NFL.And I'm sure with his speed, smartsand athleticism, Crouch will master his new position and also should get a full opportunity to play in the NFL.
 

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Here's what I don't understand. If they weren't going to let Eric play QB in the pros, why didn't they put him at tailback? He was one of the best option QBs in the last 20 years, so he is used to running the football. He rarely fumbled in college. His size and speed fits the TB mold. Going to WR or SS never made sense to me. He rarely had to read pass coverage or blitzes in college, which is a skill he would have had to learn at WR. Playing safety is a whole other set of skills he would have to learn. Running back is probably one of the easiest (mentally speaking) positions to learn. That is why you see so many RBs do well as rookies in the NFL.
 

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Crouch should have been moved to TB first if they weren't going to give him a shot at QB. He was simply a great college runner against top competition. But if you mentioned that possibility back in '02 when he was a rookie on the Rams you would have been hooted down by almost all of the fans. They couldn't conceive of him being a tailback. And after St. Louis drafted him as a WR, no one thought it possible that he could be a quarterback. "He has no arm strength," they all sneered in unison, just as they do now about Matt Jones' arm. They read Mel Kiper or some other "scouting report" and instantly internalize whatever theparty lineis.


Crouch was despised by almost all the fans and still is. When he quit because he couldn't play QB, the position where he had distinguished as the best in the nation, it was the opposite reaction as when Ricky Williams suddenly quit on his team. With Crouch it was "good riddance loser," with Williams it was" I so respect him for wanting to go smoke weed on the world's beaches and find himself."


Even now, mention Crouch on a message board and the first and only response you're likely to get is "he sucked." A Heisman Trophy winner who never played in the NFL, but he proved that "he sucked." I've seen threads about Caste Football that attacked us as "racist" and "ridiculous" based on our support for the proposition that Crouch could and can play quarterback in the NFL if he was given even a fraction of the opportunity that Michael Vick has been given.
 

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This has happened more than once to good, white college QB's.



I wonder if Chris Simms would be getting the shot he is if it wasn't
for the fact he carries his daddy's last name. Otherwise he might
just be another Crouch, White, Weinke, Applewhite, et al. Was
Chris Simms better than any of those guys, or more deserving of an
opportunity?



I don't think so, but I'd like to hear your opinion.
 
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I watched Crouch play in college. One of the games I remember was against OU. He does this pitch-out, then jets down the opposite sideline some 50 yards, leaving the secondary grabbing for their jocks and the ball was then thrown to him and he caught easily while still in afterburner for a TD.


Watching him run that option offence was a thing to behold.





Great site. Good manners and good posts.
 

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I know I remember him in his senior year tearing it up. Maybe he'll get into the NFL eventually.
 

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Does anyone have any updates on how Eric Crouch is doing
over in nfl europe?Thanks guys.
 

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I'll have to do some research on that one whitelightning.
 

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Eric is the starting Free Safety for the 4-3 Sea Devils, and is tied for 4'th in tackles on the team. That's about all I found that is noteworthy.
 

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Thanks Colonel Reb.I really want to see him back in
the nfl.Maybe he could even eventually play a little
both ways,offense & defense.He is a great athlete!
 

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I hope so Kevin. It would be great to see that pair work every weekend. I'll try to give weekly updates on Eric so we can track his progress. Seems as though he's doing very well considering he hasn't played football since 2002. The 4-3 Sea Devils play the 5-2 Berlin Thunder, which is tied for the best team in Europe. It will be on Fox tommorrow, so ya'll be watching.
 

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I will be watching too.Plus the Suns play the Spurs and
the big track meet in California.Wariner,Rock and Potter
will all be running in the 400.Should be a great race.
 

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We'll have a lot to watch then.
 

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Crouch was knocked out of tonight's game with an injury. Don't know yet if it was serious or not.


The good news is that Crouch's fellow starting safety, Shawn Mayer, tied an NFL Europe record with 3 interceptions in the game. He also had a bunch of tackles. Mayer should begetting serious playing timein the NFL. He's a playmaker with a nose for the ball and for a safety he makes mucho tackles.
 

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Oddly enough I ran into a fellow from Germany the other day at a bar. He is working in the US for a couple of years installing some heavy machinery. He was probably in his late twenties. I asked him if he knew about American football and to my surprise he told me that he played it in Germany. He said he played cornerback and he told me that in Germany American football is a popular recreational game, probably like rugby is here. A way for guys to really bash themselves up before they're too old to do it anymore.

There are several level of leagues and teams move up and down in levels depending on thier won-loss record. Just like they do for soccer. They are not professional and I got the impression he played just for the fun of hitting and tackling which is probably the only reason anyone should do it.

I don't think the popularity in Germany is a sign of much to come, kids have been playing soccer here in great numbers for twenty years and it hasn't caught on yet professionally (although that will change as the hispanics eventually overrun the rest of North America).

I did not get to ask him about the caste system but I know a few working class Germans and I bet they'd do alright in the NFL. Maybe someday.
 

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American football is spreading globally. I have a friend that coaches 6 weeks of the year in Japan for a college program there. He is a retired NFL coach and is trying to get football established in Japan. Very interesting talking to him about how fast foreigners are picking up the game. It won't be long and I think that the NFL will resemble the NBA with some foreign talent coming into the league.
 
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Crouch was placed on the two week injured reserve list with a hip injury. Let's hope he's "hip" to the racial factors that led to him being screwed by the NFL as far as being a quarterback.
 

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It is nice to see that he has a head on his shoulders.He
will do just fine after football.A young married man
with two kids.Now that is a guy to look up to on and off
the field.He made some mistakes in his youth,like we all
do but handled his business.I really hope he makes it
back to the nfl.
 

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Me too. Even though he missed some action, he is still tied for 6'th in tackles on the Sea Devils team. Let's see if he is able to leapfrog a few guys this next week.
 

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Credit... www.omaha.com


Crouch finds spot on couch


Eric Crouch is hoping his experience in NFL Europe still can pay off after the Kansas City Chiefs cut the 2001 Heisman Trophy winner. If no National Football League team picks him up off waivers by Monday, the former Nebraska quarterback becomes a free agent. He and his agent, Jim Steiner of St. Louis, then can talk with other teams.
 

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What!!! No Way!!! This guy was credible. I
thought he was playing admirably. Pretty pathetic. The
system has reached a new low.
 
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